I guess I forget that one!Did you check the Instagram Album on the game menu?
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You haven't advanced the story far enough. When you reach the correct place in the main story, Lisa will receive the summer blouse and jeans.Okay, probably a dumb question but how do you unlock the "Summer Blouse & Jeans” outfit? The wardrobe only shows the camisole and cardigan outfit. Need for basically every other quest after reaching exhibitionist level 2. Is it a case of missing files? I used the compressed version for the 2.62 update.
As a North American, I don't find it to be all that implausible. The only thing really needed to make it believable is for Lisa's motives for submitting to be made clearer and stronger.I understand there are cultural differences that may make it more plausible in Japan but as a North American the situation is hard to believe.
Um...For starters, blackmail and revenge porn are illegal. As is rape. I get that in Japan the shame and dishonor from being in any of those situations can compel them to go along with the blackmailers, but as a North American I don't know any women who would be unwilling to go to the authorities out of honor or dignity.
Again, your objection seems to be predicated upon the incorrect interpretation that Lisa is trying to protect her public image. What she is trying to do is to preserve her relationships with people who are (or are becoming) important in her life. If her first concern is to keep those people from finding out, then she can't just refuse the blackmail until she has a way to neutralize the threat. This is still true, even if complying leads to the blackmailer's hold on her being strengthened.Also the whole idea of 'someone has proof of me in a slightly compromising situation so clearly the best solution is to put myself in an even MORE compromising situation so they can get more proof and have more influence and control over me' is mind boggling. It just doesn't make sense.
Lisa doesn't have a plan yet. That's quite obvious. She has to come up with a plan. And, until she does, she doesn't want Danny, Luca, and Sharon to know about it.What is the plan in the long run?
And yet, people do acquiesce to blackmail in real life. So, apparently, it's often realistic to portray people as making naïve judgements and foolish choices. Lisa wouldn't be the first person to wrongly think, "I'll just give him what he wants, and then he'll go away." And it's already been made clear in the game that she now realizes that Paul isn't going to stop, and that she has to figure out a way to stop him.The reasoning behind thinking that acquiescing to their demands will somehow make it stop is naive.
You're actually right that it would be better in real life, if you were being blackmailed over infidelity, to come clean to your partner and hope that you might be forgiven. That doesn't change the fact that people actually do go to some pretty crazy lengths to keep their cheating hidden, as I've already pointed out in this thread.As is thinking that it would be worse to come clean to their significant other, then it would be to go along with the blackmailers demands.
As a North American, I don't find it to be all that implausible. The only thing really needed to make it believable is for Lisa's motives for submitting to be made clearer and stronger.
Um...
Of course blackmail and rape are illegal, and not only North America. Are you honestly trying to argue that, because they're illegal, they don't happen? Are you attempting to suggest that every rape victim in the US reports the crime to the authorities, because every available study on the subject would contradict that.
Also, you seem to have completely misunderstood the reason why Lisa doesn't want her affair with Viv to be revealed. It isn't because she's so very ashamed at the thought of the general public seeing a photo of her kissing a woman or appearing nude or semi-nude. It's because she's afraid of how specific people in her life (her aunt, her boyfriend, Luca) would react to the knowledge of what she and Viv are doing.
Edit - Also, while you may think that you don't know any women who would be unwilling to go to the authorities, I question if that's truly the case. It's a fairly common occurrence. If it's such a common occurrence as we are often told (It may or may not be.), then it's quite possible that some of the women you know, if they were ever raped, might fall into this category. Within my own normal sized circle of acquaintance, I've known three women who were raped who refused to report the crime.
Again, your objection seems to be predicated upon the incorrect interpretation that Lisa is trying to protect her public image. What she is trying to do is to preserve her relationships with people who are (or are becoming) important in her life. If her first concern is to keep those people from finding out, then she can't just refuse the blackmail until she has a way to neutralize the threat. This is still true, even if complying leads to the blackmailer's hold on her being strengthened.
Lisa doesn't have a plan yet. That's quite obvious. She has to come up with a plan. And, until she does, she doesn't want Danny, Luca, and Sharon to know about it.
And yet, people do acquiesce to blackmail in real life. So, apparently, it's often realistic to portray people as making naïve judgements and foolish choices. Lisa wouldn't be the first person to wrongly think, "I'll just give him what he wants, and then he'll go away." And it's already been made clear in the game that she now realizes that Paul isn't going to stop, and that she has to figure out a way to stop him.
You're actually right that it would be better in real life, if you were being blackmailed over infidelity, to come clean to your partner and hope that you might be forgiven. That doesn't change the fact that people actually do go to some pretty crazy lengths to keep their cheating hidden, as I've already pointed out in this thread.
So, while you're right in saying that Lisa should have handled it differently, you're wrong to say that this makes the scenario unrealistic or unbelievable.
Took me a while also. You have to finish the swim and other school events. A large part of the Markus event, a large part of the restaurant at the beach events, and i though like 18 deviancy. Then on the day mother is going to visit father the clothes are on the bed.Okay, probably a dumb question but how do you unlock the "Summer Blouse & Jeans” outfit? The wardrobe only shows the camisole and cardigan outfit. Need for basically every other quest after reaching exhibitionist level 2. Is it a case of missing files? I used the compressed version for the 2.62 update.
I'm pleased to have been of service.You know what? You convinced me. I agree with you, it's not unrealistic for her to go along with it because she does seem dumb enough to make those decisions.
not everything has to be america rule, dude wake up.The blackmail scene plays out very similarly to the way it does in Japanese hentai/manga/NTR.
I understand there are cultural differences that may make it more plausible in Japan but as a North American the situation is hard to believe.
For starters, blackmail and revenge porn are illegal. As is rape. I get that in Japan the shame and dishonor from being in any of those situations can compel them to go along with the blackmailers, but as a North American I don't know any women who would be unwilling to go to the authorities out of honor or dignity.
Also the whole idea of 'someone has proof of me in a slightly compromising situation so clearly the best solution is to put myself in an even MORE compromising situation so they can get more proof and have more influence and control over me' is mind boggling. It just doesn't make sense. What is the plan in the long run? Go along with their demands the rest of your life? It only really ends if they come clean and either they continue the relationship without that hanging over them or the relationship ends and the proof has no more power.
The reasoning behind thinking that acquiescing to their demands will somehow make it stop is naive.
As is thinking that it would be worse to come clean to their significant other, then it would be to go along with the blackmailers demands.
I mean they could have gone right to the authorities after it happened saying they were raped and the significant other would likely be understanding and supportive. I mean what would be worse, admitting to fooling around with someone else or them finding out you had sex with a bunch of other people (even unwillingly) in order to make sure they didn't find out about fooling around with someone else?
Blackmail in general isn't the easiest thing to make believable or logical because often times what gets asked of the victim is far worse then the initial transgression and will do much greater and longer lasting damage to the relationship they were trying to protect to begin with. I understand this is a game/VN/fiction so I'm not hung up on it or anything. Just thought I'd contribute my thoughts on the discussion happening.
Do a search in this thread for your answer. Or just read back through the last few pages.
Renshire 711 (were is ?) Summer Blouse Morning/Afternoon
Had the same problem. Triggered at the end for me, after getting the job in the hotel. But maybe there is more to it.Cant find Aoife after dad picks her up in the limo, went to school which is what objectives tells me and can't find her there either, someone halp please.
Fastforward text: -press and hold down the EnterTook me a while also. You have to finish the swim and other school events. A large part of the Markus event, a large part of the restaurant at the beach events, and i though like 18 deviancy. Then on the day mother is going to visit father the clothes are on the bed.
Other question, is there a way to skip or fastforward text? Some parts are so slow
Did you know when the ren´py version will be updated?The update is looking good from all the teasers we get. Waiting for the Ren´Py version! A thank you and a shout out to the guys making the VN version of "Lisa"!
The maker of the VN version mentioned that he will wait until version 0.270 is out to make it in one go. so if we ant to play the new version now, we will have to use the "walking simulator".Did you know when the ren´py version will be updated?
walking simulator?The maker of the VN version mentioned that he will wait until version 0.270 is out to make it in one go. so if we ant to play the new version now, we will have to use the "walking simulator".
Seems theres several people in this thread with same problem.Had the same problem. Triggered at the end for me, after getting the job in the hotel. But maybe there is more to it.
I am afraid that this unfathomable complexity will pile up into the usual game-killing mess. Otherwise a great effort. And I am not a fan of cows on permanent display.