Ren'Py Living Together! [v0.39] [Advent Games]
Man, I hate to be critical of a free product, but this thing is not a game, it's not a visual novel and it's not a simulator.
I see that you've had the same strong criticisms from the very beginning about how frustrating this is to play, but you don't really react to it. Would it make a difference if I repeated the same points?
Maybe.
-The controls feel designed to constrain player freedom. There's no "back" button in any menu, no way to rollback a decision or click, no way to fast-forward repetitive screens, no way to end the peeking 'cutscenes', no way to skip ahead to the weekend, no way to end the weekend when there's literally nothing to do, no way to quickly save and load games.
-Every game mechanic lacks clarity. There's no way to tell what she'll be interested in at any given moment, it's not clear if there's even an underlying logic or sheer randomness, the different money-making options are outrageously obtuse, there's no estimation of how likely any given action is to succeed or fail, no indication of whether chances can be improved, no indication whatsoever of how when and where to see any new scenes, it's very hard to tell how much energy any action costs, how much is replenished by drinking each drink, how much is replenished by sleeping or if it makes a difference how early you go to bed...
-The grind is unbearable. It takes hundreds if not thousands of clicks to get the "attraction" meter up to 0. The UI needs a massive rework, and I don't see it happening unless you decide to burn it all one day and begin from scratch.
-There's no narrative. The sister character exists as a series of menus and parameters, with very few lines of dialogue. If the gameplay itself was fun and the rewards... existed, then this would be very forgivable. But since it's not really the case, I feel like this is all very pointless. I might be willing to spend a bunch of time and effort to slowly court and romance a real woman, but not a blow-doll, you know what I mean?
-The cryptobro aesthetic is... cringe. My dude, that community is already strongly suspected by outsiders to be riddled with full-blown PDF files awaiting their chance. I doubt they'll appreciate the association, specially after the whole "mental maturity should be enough" debacle. It seems like a critical lack of self-awareness. If a developer proudly signalled their catholic faith in their game about a priest that r***s children in an Irish boarding school, it would look just as bad.
-The branding. The fact that you describe your game as "will never contain r***" like the least ambitious moral grandstanding in history, but you can assault the girl in her sleep and cum on her within the first week, it makes me wonder how much you understand or care how consent works or why it matters. There's some really fucked up games on this site, but this is the first time that I find the developer creepy.
All in all, it seems like a first project for learning how to make games. That's great! Well, the only useful advice I can give you is that your coding skills are not the main issue here. Understanding player feedback and reacting accordingly (specially when everybody has the same complaints) is gonna make your games much better than slightly optimizing the code. NFT games are notorious for being extremely boring to play, despite everybody involved being relatively tech-savvy. You have a chance to be the first cryptobro to make a game that someone might play for fun, but for that you need to be open-minded and learn from criticisms. Good luck!
I see that you've had the same strong criticisms from the very beginning about how frustrating this is to play, but you don't really react to it. Would it make a difference if I repeated the same points?
Maybe.
-The controls feel designed to constrain player freedom. There's no "back" button in any menu, no way to rollback a decision or click, no way to fast-forward repetitive screens, no way to end the peeking 'cutscenes', no way to skip ahead to the weekend, no way to end the weekend when there's literally nothing to do, no way to quickly save and load games.
-Every game mechanic lacks clarity. There's no way to tell what she'll be interested in at any given moment, it's not clear if there's even an underlying logic or sheer randomness, the different money-making options are outrageously obtuse, there's no estimation of how likely any given action is to succeed or fail, no indication of whether chances can be improved, no indication whatsoever of how when and where to see any new scenes, it's very hard to tell how much energy any action costs, how much is replenished by drinking each drink, how much is replenished by sleeping or if it makes a difference how early you go to bed...
-The grind is unbearable. It takes hundreds if not thousands of clicks to get the "attraction" meter up to 0. The UI needs a massive rework, and I don't see it happening unless you decide to burn it all one day and begin from scratch.
-There's no narrative. The sister character exists as a series of menus and parameters, with very few lines of dialogue. If the gameplay itself was fun and the rewards... existed, then this would be very forgivable. But since it's not really the case, I feel like this is all very pointless. I might be willing to spend a bunch of time and effort to slowly court and romance a real woman, but not a blow-doll, you know what I mean?
-The cryptobro aesthetic is... cringe. My dude, that community is already strongly suspected by outsiders to be riddled with full-blown PDF files awaiting their chance. I doubt they'll appreciate the association, specially after the whole "mental maturity should be enough" debacle. It seems like a critical lack of self-awareness. If a developer proudly signalled their catholic faith in their game about a priest that r***s children in an Irish boarding school, it would look just as bad.
-The branding. The fact that you describe your game as "will never contain r***" like the least ambitious moral grandstanding in history, but you can assault the girl in her sleep and cum on her within the first week, it makes me wonder how much you understand or care how consent works or why it matters. There's some really fucked up games on this site, but this is the first time that I find the developer creepy.
All in all, it seems like a first project for learning how to make games. That's great! Well, the only useful advice I can give you is that your coding skills are not the main issue here. Understanding player feedback and reacting accordingly (specially when everybody has the same complaints) is gonna make your games much better than slightly optimizing the code. NFT games are notorious for being extremely boring to play, despite everybody involved being relatively tech-savvy. You have a chance to be the first cryptobro to make a game that someone might play for fun, but for that you need to be open-minded and learn from criticisms. Good luck!
Thank you for the extensive feedback. I'm not personally into crypto, and in-game day trading is a facsimile of options trading. It's basically gambling, but the odds are stacked in your favour. Version 0.40 has a huge overhaul of the app and the way trades happen. Anyway,
Many of your concerns are looked at in 0.40, including grind and navigation. There is also a new activity to do with her (going to a karaoke bar, which unlocks handjobs). The visual novel aspects are these weekend activities, where you learn more about her. They are essentially mini-stories which you can replay. In those stories, you will also find the traditional VN controls.
I want 400 Trust to be all you need to unlock everything and attract all the Attraction you need. It is now a matter of filling up the content (both wholesome and lewd) between 0 and 400 to make the game feel more and more complete.
For 0.41, I'm working on expanding the bathroom scenes, including bathing together and receiving a handjob there.
All in all, I think I am one of the faster-delivering developers on this site, pushing out new content with new things to do every 4 to 6 weeks to my subscribers. This then trickles down monthly until it goes public. I started this process 3 months ago, so expect that backlog of new updates to start hitting the public in a few weeks and then continue.
P.S. I used the legal definition of rape.
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Change Log (63 items!)
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- Oct 26, 2018
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tooo slow game, tooo grind these money and relationship.... can be much better and simple its my opinion
needs walkthrough or atleast something to quicken the pace of the game. takes too long to get any progress.
I know we all want more content and less grind. The game is a bit too early in development at this point, but that is okay. I have spent several hours playing this game over a couple of releases and it is possible to progress at a reasonable pace in v0.39. Obviously, the variables will still need to be adjusted as the game develops. The main systems seem to be in place. I would expect the scene progression to start improving significantly in the next few updates. I'll be ready to test it again when the next release drops, because I like this style of game.
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Change Log (97 items!)
Among which: bathing together with Imouto, all new animated interactions (breathing, blinking, swaying Imouto), new clothes for the weekend, handjobs during bathing, and much much more.
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Animated intimacy, cuddling, making out and handjobs!
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Animated intimacy, cuddling, making out and handjobs!
Change Log (63 items!)
Among adding the first sexual interaction, 0.40 adds many, many QoL additions, tweaks and expansions!
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hola.. alguien tiene un tutorial de como hacer que esta chica te quiera? o un hack por que llevo 90 días y nada pasa...gracias
El desarrollador se toma con mucha calma el juego. Te recomiendo hacer algo: juega a otros, y tal vez en 8-9 meses tengas una version decente y jugable. Todo el mundo se queja de que esto no hay quien lo juegue.
- Apr 23, 2020
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No creo que en solo 8 o 9 meses ya que el dev retrasa cada lanzamiento al publico por mucho tiempo, yo digo tal vez 2 años
- Apr 23, 2020
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Man, busca en google URM para renpy y lo descargas, lo pones en el game folder y presionas left alt y la letra M...
asi buscas determinados números, como dinero, y hasta puedes cambiar la hora del dia (mañana, tarde o noche)
Version 0.41 is available on
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Change Log (97 items!)
Among which: bathing together with Imouto, all new 4k animated interactions (breathing, blinking, swaying Imouto), new clothes for the weekend, handjobs during bathing, and much much more.
This is a huge graphical overhaul that animates the L.I. in large parts of the regular gameplay loop.
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Public Release will follow in the 2nd week of January, 2025