ForgeMaster

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Just out of curiosity, for those who have played the succubus build, from what I understand, Lona can't use magic and is weak in melee combat (I could be wrong), so what happens in cases where you face women? Like in the mission of the slaves on the island of deepones for example, can you use the Juicing skill? Or do you depend on having companions who fight for you?
 
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bucefala

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Just out of curiosity, for those who have played the succubus build, from what I understand, Lona can't use magic and is weak in melee combat (I could be wrong), so what happens in cases where you face women? Like in the mission of the slaves on the island of deepones for example, can you use the Juicing skill? Or do you depend on having companions who fight for you?
Companions and mines and lantern(because of the injury stack)
 
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Futalvr69

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Just out of curiosity, for those who have played the succubus build, from what I understand, Lona can't use magic and is weak in melee combat (I could be wrong), so what happens in cases where you face women? Like in the mission of the slaves on the island of deepones for example, can you use the Juicing skill? Or do you depend on having companions who fight for you?
you can also make a hybrid build of succubus warrior or succubus mage. someone else made a guide for that and I recall responding to him on a different guide he made
 
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windy96

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I want to find an NPC or monster that is Deepone to rebirth as Deepone. How can I find them easily?
overworld at the island or in the swamp area with a lot of chances of their encounters, but be cautious that even using them there might be chances of giving birth to just fishkind
 
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sadge0

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Why my coins cost 25% less than NPC's coins? It's a bit weird, each coin's cost should be fixed for everyone, it's a currency after all. I understand why my items cost much less than NPC's items, but I don't understand why it also applies to coins, it's stupid. Is there a mod that fixes that by any chance? Or maybe I just don't understand how it works? It also goes against the description of the large coin. It says "worth 10 coins", but you can only get 7 from one large coin. Am I missing something?
 
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John Kal

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Why my coins cost 25% less than NPC's coins? It's a bit weird, each coin's cost should be fixed for everyone, it's a currency after all. I understand why my items cost much less than NPC's items, but I don't understand why it also applies to coins, it's stupid. Is there a mod that fixes that by any chance? Or maybe I just don't understand how it works? It also goes against the description of the large coin. It says "worth 10 coins", but you can't only get 7 from one large coin. Am I missing something?
I guess it has something to with Lona being a refugee
If I remember right bank barters the exact amount
I might be wrong
I haven't used it for a while now
 
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Kenny567

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Why my coins cost 25% less than NPC's coins? It's a bit weird, each coin's cost should be fixed for everyone, it's a currency after all. I understand why my items cost much less than NPC's items, but I don't understand why it also applies to coins, it's stupid. Is there a mod that fixes that by any chance? Or maybe I just don't understand how it works? It also goes against the description of the large coin. It says "worth 10 coins", but you can only get 7 from one large coin. Am I missing something?
If you want better trade prices, you need to level up the requisite traits.
 
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orapnam69

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Why my coins cost 25% less than NPC's coins? It's a bit weird, each coin's cost should be fixed for everyone, it's a currency after all. I understand why my items cost much less than NPC's items, but I don't understand why it also applies to coins, it's stupid. Is there a mod that fixes that by any chance? Or maybe I just don't understand how it works? It also goes against the description of the large coin. It says "worth 10 coins", but you can only get 7 from one large coin. Am I missing something?
The trade system represents a haggle. You trade with the NPCs, and both determine how much the goods are worth, established values are useless. If you want the goods to be worth more, you have to put more perks points in WIS, aka get smarter.
 

Burnt_Fruit

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Why my coins cost 25% less than NPC's coins? It's a bit weird, each coin's cost should be fixed for everyone, it's a currency after all. I understand why my items cost much less than NPC's items, but I don't understand why it also applies to coins, it's stupid. Is there a mod that fixes that by any chance? Or maybe I just don't understand how it works? It also goes against the description of the large coin. It says "worth 10 coins", but you can only get 7 from one large coin. Am I missing something?
The mechanic exists to reference NPC affinities, personal biases, greed, and attitudes. Due to how bleak and awful the setting is and its people are, no one wants to spend 1-for-1 fairly and are thus all trying to scam one another to some extent, so depending on the NPC their personal trade value for coins varies greatly. For example, aristocrats have obscenely massive trade point values for coins because they're greedy and don't want to part with their money. Certain questlines for certain NPCs who are vendors will result in lowering the trade point value of their goods, including coins, because they like you and thus are giving you more fair pricing. Another thing is that everyone is specifically "Bartering", so most services aren't fully paid in coins but also other items and/or favors.

The bank actually has the closest thing to a 1-to-1 value for all coins, which shows the real value of the currency. Small coppers at their baseline is 200tp, large coppers 2k, and gold pieces 20k. The bank also is the best place to sell stuff for money due to having the fairest rates on bartering. When using the bank's rates, Lona's money and goods are only at a 10% devaluing (180tp for small coppers, for example), which shows how much everyone else is trying to be ripoffs as a neat worldbuilding detail.

So the 10 large coppers for only 7 small coppers is the result of whoever you're trading with scamming Lona to benefit themself for a 3 small copper profit away from Lona. If you want to convert smaller coins into higher value ones, always go to the bank.
 
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