Ruiven Einkranz
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Help, I am stuck in this place. I tried everything to no avail.
I just wanna get out of this place.
I just wanna get out of this place.
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If you don't like it, you are free to stop funding the game. Stop throwing a tantrum like a baby.
The feral looking fishmen with no clothes who often lives in caves and swamps.
i can't believe i made it.. At last deep one rebirth (save is uploaded for those who are interested). Pity that moot who rebirth into deep one does not become hybrid. And another stupidest thing that you can not choose vagina skill when using juicing ability, but rather it is random. This makes nympho builds even more useless than i thought they are and took a lot of time and reloads fighting deep ones
You have to hold UP while Lona is trying to grab the target. Hold DOWN for anal, LEFT and RIGHT for hand/blowjob.
Squark ⚧❤️
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Every time something new about Eccma pops up I'm afraid that'll be the end of Lona. I wish things would calm down so development could go on normally with no hang ups.
Mr. Spanks
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Tried writing a review, wouldn't let me, just gonna post it here because I think this game warrants discussion which I like. It also affords me to go into the bad opinion zone, which I also like. If it's not allowed to post this here to start a discussion, just yell at me, throw a brick at me or something and I won't do it again.
Played through I believe a good 50% of the game.
I'd like to see more dialogue between the characters to flesh them out a bit more, or fuck them. Girlfriend wants to dominate Cecily.
I'm on the fence about the character, I just went and pretended that they were flatchested rather than loli and found them cute but a bit too naive. Girlfriend likes the character's face and ability to dye the hair and change it, really wants more hair options and the ability to dye it a variety of colors.
I think my main problem is the translation and then the actual sex scenes are kinda generic? I mean once you've seen the protagonist get raped once or twice, it kinda turns into the same thing. Girlfriend hates that the cocks are all gargantuan and don't have different sizes and literally asked me "Where's the balls?" at once point.
The leveling and everything is kinda grindy and it's kinda tedious when you're trying to stay away from the prostitute route. I wouldn't mind the protag getting into it with Cecily or other girls, or being able to turn evil/bastard, which tbh, would really make the story more interesting. Girlfriend mentioned that there should be a bonus for giving up her maidenhood to a particular class/character/monster.
The stealth mechanics aren't exactly great, not going to knock them for it since they're really pushing RPGM to it's limit with that. I feel like maybe doing some management sim in the game would actually add some depth into it.
Don't get me wrong, clearly a lot of work is going into this, and I'm not getting into whatever the hell is going on up above me in the thread, but I dunno... The way people talk about how fleshed out this world is and everything, I'm just not seeing it. The lore is fine, definitely better than a lot of other RPG's, but I've seen some *really* fleshed out worlds with books and books of lore.
Give it a while and it really might turn into something awesome, I mean that, but for now:
2/5 for treating it like a release title
3.5/5 for a WIP
Girlfriend gives it 3/5, but is willing to give it a 4/5 when she can get more outfits/hairstyles/futa dick...
Played through I believe a good 50% of the game.
I'd like to see more dialogue between the characters to flesh them out a bit more, or fuck them. Girlfriend wants to dominate Cecily.
I'm on the fence about the character, I just went and pretended that they were flatchested rather than loli and found them cute but a bit too naive. Girlfriend likes the character's face and ability to dye the hair and change it, really wants more hair options and the ability to dye it a variety of colors.
I think my main problem is the translation and then the actual sex scenes are kinda generic? I mean once you've seen the protagonist get raped once or twice, it kinda turns into the same thing. Girlfriend hates that the cocks are all gargantuan and don't have different sizes and literally asked me "Where's the balls?" at once point.
The leveling and everything is kinda grindy and it's kinda tedious when you're trying to stay away from the prostitute route. I wouldn't mind the protag getting into it with Cecily or other girls, or being able to turn evil/bastard, which tbh, would really make the story more interesting. Girlfriend mentioned that there should be a bonus for giving up her maidenhood to a particular class/character/monster.
The stealth mechanics aren't exactly great, not going to knock them for it since they're really pushing RPGM to it's limit with that. I feel like maybe doing some management sim in the game would actually add some depth into it.
Don't get me wrong, clearly a lot of work is going into this, and I'm not getting into whatever the hell is going on up above me in the thread, but I dunno... The way people talk about how fleshed out this world is and everything, I'm just not seeing it. The lore is fine, definitely better than a lot of other RPG's, but I've seen some *really* fleshed out worlds with books and books of lore.
Give it a while and it really might turn into something awesome, I mean that, but for now:
2/5 for treating it like a release title
3.5/5 for a WIP
Girlfriend gives it 3/5, but is willing to give it a 4/5 when she can get more outfits/hairstyles/futa dick...
Squark ⚧❤️
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He won't stop development. The guy is pretty stalwart. I think all these attacks (they tried to get him booted off SubscribeStar again and failed) are orchestrated by some plonker with a grudge against us.
Mr. Spanks, you have some good points and I have an opinion I'd like to share based on those (I tried to remain objective):
Firstly, eveybody wants to dom Cecily. If Eccma feels like expanding the story or opening up the option for some Lona/Cecily stuff, it'll happen.
Lona's a malnourished refugee. She's going to look short and underdeveloped.
Dyeing the hair is nice. There mightn't be a whole lot of options but I feel that it's perfectly suited. I imagine that in Noer, dye is considered an expensive luxury item which means that it's difficult to produce. Having fruity colour combos wouldn't suit a town on the brink of an apocalypse. I'm happy with the options we have.
Yeah, the rape scenes and dialogue therein can get a little samey after a bit but the goal of the game is not to see how big a dick we can fit into Lona.
The goal is to survive long enough to get as far away as she can.
On dicks are too big and "where's the balls"... I have to agree.
Trying to level while not on the Succubus route is actually not that hard. Prepare some food and whatnot and go questing. Believe it or not, XP rewards for the quests was bumped fairly recently. Bashing skelly men in the graveyard is a pretty good way to farm money, exp and morality.
You get 7 small copper coins and on average spend 3 buying a room (and board) for the night. Net profit.
The Exp you get is fairly generous too for what is essentially a fairly easy quest. Skellies also drop rags which oddly are GOOD for stealth. Also sometimes drop bows.
Morality doesn't really play a big part but I think at some point it unlocks the Grey Rat/Cecily quest.
You can quite easy get -100 Morality. That's about as evil and crooked as Lona can get. Have fun trying to escape the guards.
As for a bonus for "giving up her maidenhood"... Nahh. It's hardly ever given up freely. It's usually stolen. Also, Lona's a smol gal. Having elephantine organs shoved into her smol openings isn't going to inspire her. Why would it offer a bonus at all? The goal is to survive, not shag the least disagreeable knob.
The stealth mechanics I found to be well, far from perfect yet adequate. It's needed for the "Missing Caravan" quest, I think. That's the point it explains the system to you.
No, a management sim element would not add depth. Not only would be completely out of place with setting AND character but it would be a serious point of contention for people that play this as a H-ARPG. Grinding the ARPG to halt to manage your whatevers would break the flow too much and introduce way too many bugs for hotfix patches to be in any way effective. You'd to rewrite large swathes of the game just to shoehorn that in.
Games with books and books of lore... Yeah, huge AAA games with massive studios have the time and budget for doing that. Not many others do.
2/5 is a bit stingy, I feel. It's far from perfect but better than that. "Release title". It's a playable Beta. That is how each build is called on the developer's crowdfunding sites.
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Yukihirou
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You can beg Eccma for those, If gameplay is good, any sex scenes, fetishes is a +.
Agree and disagree, let's say you're kinda right about it, but isn't most hentai game like this ? propably need a skip function for already viewed sex scenes.
Gameplay is hard, but rewarding when you mastered it.
Main point of the game is not getting raped, so I think the point about getting bonus for forced penetration is kinda void, unneeded. Getting a trauma/debuff for it is the best outcome for it, I hope Eccma implement it.
Mind I ask you to detail how it isn't great or satisfying ? Control, NPC perception/detection, object's heigth affect on stealth...etc ?
For an immersive experience, I suggest you complete the game on Hell or Doom mode, default Hard mode is piss easy so i feel you may miss out on a lot of gameplay/balance aspects harder modes offer.
To be honest, I think you're trying to play and rate this as a hentai game instead of a grim dark RPG included within realistic 18+ aspects like blood,gore,violence,rape,slavery,prostitution...
Mr. Spanks
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Like I said, not a big thing, but I agree with the GF it'd be an interesting dynamic.
I think she looks cute enough, just have everyone saying l*li this and l*li that.
I think it would be a good quest line for people who have fetishes with colored hair, myself being one of them. Not a top priority, but definitely something that could be looked at whenever this... *waves at previous postings* rolls over.
Like I said, I think that once there's more time put into it. It looks like a good system to expand on since it seems most of the initial hard work is done getting it set up. Just a content problem is all.
I mean in that case, I can get enough gold by gathering tbh. I'm jsut hoping to see some character development and story is all. She seems like she could have quite a good story ahead of her with the setting and everything.
We had a disagreement on whether the fishmen should have balls or not.
Just not much to do in that situation, once again it's just a matter of content really. Adding in some specific quests, etc.
Pretty much just echoed my statement. I'm not saying they're bad by RPGM standards, in fact, they're probably one of the better stealth systems.
2/5 if the dev stopped now and didn't bother continuing as I would consider it a finished/abandoned project
I gave it a 3.5/5 for a WIP because the game has a lot of potential, I believe it's right at this cusp so to speak. Where if he recovers from this setback and includes more story and features and continues on, it can easily be a 5/5 game. It has a great setting and atmosphere, I like the darker play on things, but I'd also like to see the dev work on making the game challenging while not promoting "save scumming" because of cheap deaths/rapes.
Yukihirou
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Doom mode aka iron man exists you know? Permanent death, no save scumming. Please elaborate on the cheap deaths/rapes part.
Default hard mode is pretty lenient already...
Doom mode is pretty much 120% doable if you completed the game before on hard mode. The only hard part of Doom mode is keeping Lona a virgin, otherwise pretty doable.
He means it's unfairly hard, so the average player is forced to savescum if they want to have a reasonable playthrough.
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I wouldnt be so sure about that. Guy started this project 6 years ago and I supported him then. Then he fucked off and nothing was heard from him. Its the main reason he wont get any money from me anymore while the game is still in developement.
Bloemkool
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