RPGM LonaRPG [v0.9.8.1.0] [EccmA417]

[RLJFZ]

you must be doing something wrong when your leech can't get off even an attack even once while I seen my leeches constantly running out of stamina from landing plenty of attacks. water nova only gets good at high wis against fast moving archers, try fighting multiple of them at the same time while having >30 wis total.

Did you miss it when I said "most"? This means most attacks, not all of them. Also, Water Nova (until this version where its utility was nerfed) has always been good at slowing down ennemies and giving Lona enough room for her to fireball or electrocute those ennemies, archers included. That aside, you say that Water Nova only gets stronger at higher WIS, so are we talking about early game specifically here and you're admitting that Vile Scepter is completely useless mid to late game? It's a common knowledge that magic damage in general will only get stronger at higher WIS so I won't debate on the damage point when it comes to early game. Though I'm really curious since you give so much credit to this Vile Scepter, how about uploading some video for me to see how well you actually use this item?

is good against melee enemies, not archers unless you play sneak mage.

No, it's even good against archers since it keeps them distracted for a long time thanks to its high HP, during this time you can go and sneak a shot on them without them being aware of you. As for the topic of a sneak mage, I have 0 SCU attributed to my Mage Lona and she sneaks around just fine due to her racial buff +5 SCU from being a Moot. If you're still a beginner and are still at the point where you're playing Human Lona then of course you'd have to attribute some trait points into SCU since being able to sneak around is important for the most part.

 

[licher]

how about uploading some video for me to see how well you actually use this item?

give me your save since I deleted my game a month ago and I'll go download the game again and reinstall bandicam. in the meantime

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vile scepter is more utility than damage dealer but it is both.

No, it's even good against archers since it keeps them distracted for a long time thanks to its high HP, during this time you can go and sneak a shot on them without them being aware of you. As for the topic of a sneak mage, I have 0 SCU attributed to my Mage Lona and she sneaks around just fine due to her racial buff +5 SCU from being a Moot. If you're still a beginner and are still at the point where you're playing Human Lona then of course you'd have to attribute some trait points into SCU since being able to sneak around is important for the most part.

like I said sneak mage, tentacles will only distract archers that aren't targeting you in the first place which requires them to spot the tentacle before you. it doesn't matter if it's 0 scu or 100 scu. I don't play sneak mage which require you to setup tons before killing them, kill them all immediately is how I play for one very good reason, saving slaves and helpless girl encounters where time is essence especially when I play at 100 difficulty day 1 where rogues will immediately kill them.

 

[Kenny567]

With the further merging of UMM into the game in B.0.9.4.0.4, there should no longer be a need to disable the UMM check in Cheat Menu Framework's __init__.rb file.

It should work as released.

As for the rest of the changes in the game, as always, please create an issue on the mod's issue tracker if any part of Cheat Menu isn't working anymore.

 

[RLJFZ]

give me your save since I deleted my game a month ago and I'll go download the game again and reinstall bandicam. in the meantime

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vile scepter is more utility than damage dealer but it is both.

Brother, that video you just linked has nothing to do with Vile Scepter, it's about how Mage Lona take advantage of her weak stat (likely more than 50+ weak stat) to make ennemies fight among them...
Also you don't need a save to record the test, just grab the cheat mod and use it to get all necessary items and levels and then do the video, this time with Vile Scepter.

like I said sneak mage, tentacles will only distract archers that aren't targeting you in the first place which requires them to spot the tentacle before you. it doesn't matter if it's 0 scu or 100 scu. I don't play sneak mage which require you to setup tons before killing them, kill them all immediately is how I play for one very good reason, saving slaves and helpless girl encounters where time is essence especially when I play at 100 difficulty day 1 where rogues will immediately kill them.

I think we need to make the context clear here. Are we talking about early game specifically where Lona is at low level? If we are then I can agree that Vile Scepter has some use on low level, but it completely falls apart once you reach mid to late game, do you admit this last statement to be true?

 

[szr133866]

Is there a way to get pregnant with more babies in a single duration? How?

 

[licher]

just grab the cheat mod

I do not know how to use cheat mods, never have used them and not willing to burn time to learn how to install it when you could just post your save file here so I could start immediately.

but it completely falls apart once you reach mid to late game, do you admit this last statement to be true?

no, because vile scepter is my main equip in end game 99% of the time, switching to water staff only for very rare specific purpose which is getting pin in a corner while standing on a water tile.

 

[RLJFZ]

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Alright, tell me which version of the game do you have and I'll give you a save that match that version (with all trait points unassigned and the necessary items). I'll give you a video demonstration of mine after I see yours.
EDIT: Also since you said endgame it's fair to assume that we're talking about a Mage Lona that has around max 100 WIS so we'll refer our debate from there.

 

[licher]

Alright, tell me which version of the game do you have and I'll give you a save that match that version (with all trait points unassigned and the necessary items). I'll give you a video demonstration of mine after I see yours.

I just grabbed the latest one from few post earlier 9.4.0.4

 

[FrontalZp]

Your utilization of the spoiler tag for saving room on a lengthy post is impressive.
the common understanding most people have of scenario based attributes for a game mob such as a leech less so.
let me explain briefly. Sexual game. Sexual setting. Large leeches typical in dungeons and caves or near waterways. some tiny thousands sucking life out of adventurers, or large ones dropping from ceilings to laughably engorge someone’s upper torso. Result choice for words: Annoying and surprising and deadly in large numbers.
TLDR Leeches are for diversion and surprising and disease damage over time. Tentacles are seen as attack focused entities. Glow with the flow, just dont seizure, ya’know!
Edit: oh, and saves are earned, not just awarded. Ask nicer, we’re real ppl.

 

[FrontalZp]

I just grabbed the latest one from few post earlier 9.4.0.4

I have 9.3 on mega if aio cheat isnt updated for 9.4. Just dm me.

 

[licher]

I have 9.3 on mega if aio cheat isnt updated for 9.4. Just dm me.

9.3 is already in the front page though, I just grabbed the latest 9.4 but if he can't make the save cheat on it then I'll just grab 9.3.

 

[RLJFZ]

I just grabbed the latest one from few post earlier 9.4.0.4

Grab the 0.9.3.0 as well on the first post of this thread since Water Nova's damage in the latest version has been doubled, so it wouldn't be a fair comparison if we go from that, since we're mainly talking about experience that happened on older version. This is a save for 0.9.3.0, with Lona being right in front of the captain at the port. Give him the gold and rebirth to respec trait points, then go to the bank to grab the Vile Scepter. You can also use this save for 0.9.4.0.4 but you need to rebirth in order to avoid any fatal bugs.

 

[licher]

getting error on that save

 

[RLJFZ]

getting error on that save View attachment 4211859

Ok I think I know, it's due to the mod which you most likely don't have. Minute.

 

[RLJFZ]

getting error on that save View attachment 4211859

How about this? All necessary items should be included.

 

[licher]

How about this? All necessary items should be included.

it's good

 

[RLJFZ]

it's good

Good. Make sure that Lona reaches 100 WIS stat so we can fairly compare. Since I'm pretty busy I'll post my own videos comparison on a later day.

 

[licher]

Good. Make sure that Lona reaches 100 WIS stat so we can fairly compare. Since I'm pretty busy I'll post my own videos comparison on a later day.

didn't go full 100, never did but doesn't matter 80~90 is plenty

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[RLJFZ]

didn't go full 100, never did but doesn't matter 80~90 is plenty

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Alright just watched the full vid. For one, you used Electric Discharge 90% of the time so this was more a demonstration of this skill instead of Vile Scepter. In the rare case you used Vile Scepter, it was on a single mob, and many of those leeches died or took time to get a hit on the mob when they were summoned while there were many mobs around. This is an extremely niche use of Vile Scepter and the only time those leeches are somehow useful is when the ennemies they're attacking aren't fighting back. With Abomination Totem's tentacle and the other magic items you could have saved several amount of stamina while taking care of those archers and every mobs around the area without getting so much hit on you.

You said this on a previous post

water nova only gets good at high wis against fast moving archers, try fighting multiple of them at the same time while having >30 wis total.

that last statement made it sound like Vile Scepter is good against multiple mobs, or rather multiple archer mobs that are gathered in high numbers in a single area, but I didn't see that demonstrated in the video.

 

[licher]

Alright just watched the full vid. For one, you used Electric Discharge 90% of the time so this was more a demonstration of this skill instead of Vile Scepter. In the rare case you used Vile Scepter, it was on a single mob, and many of those leeches died or took time to get a hit on the mob when they were summoned while there were many mobs around. This is an extremely niche use of Vile Scepter and the only time those leeches are somehow useful is when the ennemies they're attacking aren't fighting back. With Abomination Totem's tentacle and the other magic items you could have saved several amount of stamina while taking care of those archers and every mobs around the area without getting so much hit on you.

You said this on a previous post

that last statement made it sound like Vile Scepter is good against multiple mobs, or rather multiple archer mobs that are gathered in high numbers in a single area, but I didn't see that demonstrated in the video.

except you forgot my very first post, "vile scepter is best counter against gob archers and runners ", I never said to use it on everything. because discharge kills everything easily but can't do it with archers and runners so vile scepters become alternative to it, you can see as leech chases archer you can put discharge on their path if you want fast kill @3:10 or use it to take away archer's aggro on you @4:10.

you don't go vile on everything. it is good for multiple archers except I didn't get the archer goblins encounters because RNG, as you see you get plenty of relax time when leeches are chasing archers you just pop them out indefinitely for multiple archers. thing is we don't need to buff it to be more OP, lona is already easy as it is, eccma buff lona (23~27 def mage, 80% of mobs hits for 1 damage) so much + mobs attack like molasses now, the game is a joke now that's why I deleted the game in the first place because it's too easy now.