Evizzy89
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Your very first message was you comparing the game to "real life" contradicted yourself again Clap clap
tell me the truth are you a troll or just retarded?
tell me the truth are you a troll or just retarded?
Yukihirou
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Taking lines of words at face's value. That's a simpleton for you.
Anything I post or wrote, bit by bit, perfectly enhance or complement each other. There's no contradictions. Using lore, stats and scripts (things author put time and mind to handcraft and balance into the game to create his little world) to verify and deduce the situation and status of npc vs npc and how they would fare against each others. And from that to deduce how little Lona would fare against such threats...etc
^But I bet you can't think a sec and just decide to scrutinize me :"ha ha, look at this guy contradicting himself, I'm oh so smart i'm gonna show him who's the boss"
Petty, but it's funny
Evizzy89
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He says contradicting himself a third time in a rowTaking lines of words at face's value. That's a simpleton for you.
Anything I post or wrote, bit by bit, perfectly enhance or complement each other. There's no contradictions. Using lore, stats and scripts (things author put time and mind to handcraft and balance into the game to create his little world) to verify and deduce the situation and status of npc vs npc and how they would fare against each others. And from that to deduce how little Lona would fare against such threats...etc
^But I bet you can't think a sec and just decide to scrutinize me :"ha ha, look at this guy contradicting himself, I'm oh so smart i'm gonna show him who's the boss"
Petty, but it's funny
I respectfully disagree with this opinion. A game should at the very least explain to you all the mechanics in-game. While this game does tell me about most of the mechanics, a lot of the finer yet still quite important details (like canceling a throw or the fact that the torch scorch stacks) aren't explained at all and require me to use a wiki to even understand how to use them. Hell, I don't think they even explain what the icons on the top of the screen (the face and the two bars below and to the right of it) even are.
I personally think a game should be approachable at the start then ramp the difficulty up after the player gets accustomed to how to play. The issue is that LonaRPG doesn't do this and kind of throws you off into the deep end right after the tutorial. Games like Project Zomboid does this, but at the very least that game has a pretty large youtube scene and people can see and learn what and how to survive from those videos. The only thing LonaRPG has is the wiki and the guides there.
Honestly, I would invest more time into this game because I do see the mechanics as somewhat interesting, but they aren't interesting enough on their own and I find the h in this game fairly off putting. Only reason I gave this game a second chance (I tried to play it around 2-3 years back) is because I saw that there was a big booba mod so the MC wouldn't look "iffy". I remember the first time I played I tried bonking the rats to death and almost died because I ran out of stamina, then had to reload a save. That kind of "hardcore" is just too much for me.
Understandable. You weren't the only one to have big issue with the game. My goal wasn't to convince you but to give you guidance and to show you what the game has to offer through the perspective of a player who enjoys it. The dev never intended this game to be for everyone, he already knew it's going to filter a lot of people, and there's nothing really wrong with it since it gives the targeted audience exactly what they wanted, just as games like Dark Soul did. If the dev wanted to, he could have very well showed every single infos on the game's mechanics, the reason he didn't is because LonaRPG is a sandbox RPG, as such the player is expected to discover things by themselves and make their own guides.
As far as enjoyment goes, this is fully subjective and relative to each person. A negative for one player would be considered positive for another. You either really hate this game or really love it, there's no in-between. This isn't the type of game that takes 50 or more hours to be better. If you didn't enjoy the game since the beginning, chances are you're not going to enjoy it even if you knew every single mechanics and tricks. A lot of people who came to love this game loved it since the very beginning of the game, myself included. Discovering new things only enhances the experience.
It's okay to not enjoy this game, I think most of your critics are fair. Despite what I said about LonaRPG being a sandbox RPG and the dev's intention to filter people, I agree that this game does need a more thorough guide and tutorial so that it would be more approachable for most beginners. Unfortunately the wiki is pretty outdated, it's like 2-3 years old and lacks quite a lot of info. Not many people have the will to craft an up-to-date guides for this game. I'd be willing to take on that task after I get more free time, but right now, I'm only compiling every single tricks I discover along my play.
Don't know which one you're talking about so here's the
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Yukihirou
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Modern gaming company will separate damage type by color, for instance, slash-red, blunt/strike-white, piercing-blue. In this game, you would have to figure that out yourself, think CRPG kind of reading and experimenting that requires 10 hours of planning to play a single character (and there are 30 characters or more with different skills).
^In your case, if you pick up the pitchfork and thrust with it from 2 spaces away, the rat either die from 1 or 2 hits instead of 13 or so hits from the club. That is because this peasant spear, a piercing type weapon, deals HP (red damage) instead of yellow damage (the club). That requires some observation to make the connection between the different type of damage type and enemy type a player need to make plans for.
Going further, you will notice Lona can exchange place/swap tile with the rat, something she can't do with others NPCs, this to denote that you're dealing with a critter or smaller creatures and that means they generally don't have that much HP to begin with (Stamina is a different matter as it varies...) so Red damage is preferred to Yellow damage.
All in all, I just want to say that I enjoy deducing the game mechanic without touching a guide or cutting open the game file, it's in my blood. I won't blame new generation players for not liking "No handholding games" like this. Modern company even began to put yellow paints on survival, openworld game nowadays that screams "go here", "loot here" and I don't quite like it since it break immersion. So let's just say a game is something to enjoy, and if it's frustrating to play then safe to say it's not one's cup of tea and that's all right.
Sado Yasashi By the way, the Nun Outfit isn't compatible with the latest version B.0.9.8.5.x. Can you look into it for both the transparent and non-transparent version?
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Also Ricordi, are you planning to make a Booba version for the new set of outfit that has just been added?
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Of_Ill_Omens
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More options is always nice, but personally, I'd say pristine white looks a bit out of place in this world.
And there's the idea of matching uniform with Elise's own, which would be lost unless that's recolored too.
The dev is a bit of a troll. The oldschool kind that will try to trick you into mixing bleach with winegar and breathing the fumes. The initial obtuseness and hostility of the environment is absolutely intentional. Perhaps except for the spastic AI, that might really be limit of dev skill and tangle of existing spaghetti code. At least the AI is consistently inconsistent and once you get used to it you can exploit its eccentricities to your advantage. But anyway, the game very much means to welcome you with kick in the teeth and then rubs it in by giving you mock achievement from dying in the tutorial. There's things that will be constantly stacked against you, you'll always trade at disadvantage, you will often be outnumbered and if you let yourself get encircled you will go down, even cheating the stats won't help unless you know what you're doing. That's not to mention the coarse humor that may deter people before they start worrying about the mechanics.
But there's always a way if you persevere you'll figure it out, you might even notice that beneath that hostility the game is giving you hints. The first visit to Burning Keg mentions both hirelings and Lisa, which can help immensely. If you start with cheapest ( = presumably easiest) quest you get accquainted with Elise, early part of his questline can be done without fighting anything, so that's easy enough too, bringing Lona closer to being able to afford proper weapon and ability to wield it... or you can volunteer Lona to slavery and only worry about escaping before the ordeal kills her, because hey, open world.
Missing caravan was stealth tutorial. Cecily rescue adds traps, the trick is luring slavers into their own traps, you don't need to swing a weapon once. Besides that, run away and kite, wait at cornes, sneak and backstab/juicing grab, incite infighting. Fight smart and fight dirty.
But I'm doing you disservice saying that, going in blind and figuring things out on your own has sense of progression and discovery I haven't experienced in any other game.
Roleplaying as an instigator gotta be the best part of the game that never gets boring even after the hundredths of times of doing it.
It's just so funny to see NPCs go at each other's throat. Eris the goddess of discord would be very proud of Lona for being such a master of deception lol.
By the way, regarding the risk of getting stunned when the NPCs are trying to rape Lona, equipping and holding up a shield makes Lona immune to stun effect that comes from fast light attack, on any direction. It's not entirely foolproof since Lona can still get caught off guard if the NPC happens to hit Lona right as she pulls down the shield, even then it's a great way to effectively mitigate the risk of getting stunned during the sex bait.
EDIT: Oh wait, never mind actually. There's still a low chance of Lona getting stunned even with the shield up if she is hit by the fast light attack through her blindspot.
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By the way, regarding the risk of getting stunned when the NPCs are trying to rape Lona, equipping and holding up a shield makes Lona immune to stun effect that comes from fast light attack, on any direction. It's not entirely foolproof since Lona can still get caught off guard if the NPC happens to hit Lona right as she pulls down the shield, even then it's a great way to effectively mitigate the risk of getting stunned during the sex bait.
EDIT: Oh wait, never mind actually. There's still a low chance of Lona getting stunned even with the shield up if she is hit by the fast light attack through her blindspot.
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FilthyTroglodyte
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Haven't you played Fallout 2, Demons Souls, Dark Souls or Bloodborne?
If not, i'd recommend them.
wow this looks fucked up and my first thought was nice let's smoke and try it..what is happening to me xd
Yeah i actually found that out myself, i tried like 5 formations and found that the circle formation (with gray rat as the tank) was the best formation to use, it was fun trying out the different ways i could do the quest, i think i failed like 50 times before i finally won
Ricordi Sado Yasashi About the Nun Outfit, never mind, it's still technically working if you buy another Nun Outfit in the current version. There's a weird bug where if you withdraw from the bank the Nun Outfit you bought in an older version of the game, the item disappears. It's still there but just invisible. Trying to throw it away on the ground causes a critical bug.