RPGM LonaRPG [v0.9.9.1.0] [EccmA417]

[jkllkj177]

Yeah, I went there as a mage and just killed everyone one by one.
Should I have paused between kills or something?

I must say that for some defeated enemies the reputation dropped by 10, and for killing others by as much as 100.
At some point my reputation was -200.

UPD: And thanks for answering me, heh... I already thought I was being ignored for some reason... :>

For your spoilage question i'll do a writeup tomorrow on the exact way its determined from the code just so I dont write something inaccurate.

For reputation, certain enemies reduce moral immediately by -100 (temporarily) and -10 immediately and fully. Usually non combatants, but the ones that aren't seem to all have certain qualities in common like being affiliated with the Saint.

For example: if you attack enemies during stealth section, its almost always -10 moral per enemy as a punishment for killing unnecessarily. If you kill one enemy its -10, but also an additional -100 temporarily for killing someone in the area since its a crime. If you wait without being scene for long enough, temporary loses go away. So if you start the fight at 0, get -10 and -100 temp, you'll eventually be at just -10.

Edit: this doesn't include the situations where permanent max moral is lowered (too complicated to discuss all at the same time and remain understandable, just understand thats different from this)

 

[Moya621]

For reputation, certain enemies reduce moral immediately by -100 (temporarily) and -10 immediately and fully. Usually non combatants, but the ones that aren't seem to all have certain qualities in common like being affiliated with the Saint.

For example: if you attack enemies during stealth section, its almost always -10 moral per enemy as a punishment for killing unnecessarily. If you kill one enemy its -10, but also an additional -100 temporarily for killing someone in the area since its a crime. If you wait without being scene for long enough, temporary loses go away. So if you start the fight at 0, get -10 and -100 temp, you'll eventually be at just -10.

Edit: this doesn't include the situations where permanent max moral is lowered (too complicated to discuss all at the same time and remain understandable, just understand thats different from this)

Okay... So there is no way to return 100 max reputation if permanent reputation has gone into the negative?
UPD: The problem is that fake id papers do not reset my reputation to 50, as it should, but to 0, making me a criminal even by fake id.

 

[Moya621]

For your spoilage question i'll do a writeup tomorrow on the exact way its determined from the code just so I dont write something inaccurate.

What about food spoilage... I don't know, maybe it's because of 5 survival points in the new playthrough, or if you sleep on the global map, and not on the location, then it seems like soups spoil much longer...

 

[Ray91]

There is if you buy the game.

fair point

 

[Moya621]

fair point

The link to the discord server comes in a separate archive when you buy the game... Alas.

Unfortunately, for example, I can't buy the game because... Well, you know... Russia...

I really want to join the community, because it seems like there isn't much content about Lona on the Internet.

 

[sugubepilef]

also how to deal with foods and stamina?cus eating meat and then sleep its not much

welcome to the game

 

[Moya621]

How viable is Bloodlust Mage Lona without timid?
I fucking love blasting enemies with Lona's sly smile.

But 8 armor and 10 points for the price of one...

Raise to 40 and heal from Bloody Mess... Is that a shitty idea?

 

[jkllkj177]

Okay... So there is no way to return 100 max reputation if permanent reputation has gone into the negative?
UPD: The problem is that fake id papers do not reset my reputation to 50, as it should, but to 0, making me a criminal even by fake id.

Sounds like a bug tbh

 

[Moya621]

Sounds like a bug tbh

Yup.

 

[Velomous]

Woah the game comes with shell scripts to run it through wine or proton, that's cool (it works too!). LinuxStart.bin is wrongly named though, should be LinuxStart.sh. Doesn't impair functionality in any way, linux is good at detecting formats regardless of extension, but that is not a binary, that is a shell script, so sh it should be.

Game won't actually start though, just get stuck on some political bs



Weird thing to put in a hardcore hentai game, but all right, I have no skin in the game of taiwan v china anyway but i do prefer taiwan being independent. but pressing z does nothing. Is there a way to skip this screen?

Version 8.9.2.1 was playable for me tho.

Edit: idk what I did but after restarting it like 10 times it worked, and the screen doesn't come up again

 

[Moya621]

Honestly man, I'd just get the cheat mod and set your reputation to default. I wouldn't throw away the save. Or if you don't wanna cheat it, you could do rescue missions and just sneak into the city. If that's not optional, I'm not quite sure. Never had that issue because I would only run past the church people because of the moral drop alone lol.

I used the console.

And I couldn't raise reputation with the console above 50, so.
50 is the maximum reputation.

 

[Kenny567]

Woah the game comes with shell scripts to run it through wine or proton, that's cool (it works too!). LinuxStart.bin is wrongly named though, should be LinuxStart.sh. Doesn't impair functionality in any way, linux is good at detecting formats regardless of extension, but that is not a binary, that is a shell script, so sh it should be.

Game won't actually start though, just get stuck on some political bs

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Weird thing to put in a hardcore hentai game, but all right, I have no skin in the game of taiwan v china anyway but i do prefer taiwan being independent. but pressing z does nothing. Is there a way to skip this screen?

Version 8.9.2.1 was playable for me tho.

Open your UserData/GameLona.ini file, in the [LonaRPG] section there should be a LaunchWarning entry, set that to 1.

If that entry isn't there (gets set by the disclaimer), add LaunchWarning = 1 to the bottom of the [LonaRPG] section.

 

[Moya621]

What do you mean? 50 is not the max, my man. I'm at 80 something lol. Oh well, at least your game is saved. Have fun bro

So?

 

[Moya621]

What do you mean? 50 is not the max, my man. I'm at 80 something lol. Oh well, at least your game is saved. Have fun bro

Apparently, I am not explaining the essence of my problem very clearly.
Sry.

 

[Moya621]

What do you mean? 50 is not the max, my man. I'm at 80 something lol. Oh well, at least your game is saved. Have fun bro

Somehow after saving Cocona my max morality was 50, so when Big Mom gave me a face id it didn't reset my morality to 50, it reset it to 0.

That's what I'm talking about.

 

[Kenny567]

When adjusting Lona's Morality, you also need to change $game_player.actor.morality_plus

When the game itself updates $game_player.actor.morality (what is shown in the menu) it does so using this formula: [in function recalculateStats]

$game_player.actor.morality = $game_player.actor.morality_lona + ($game_player.actor.morality_plus-200)

Note: In the actual function code, it uses self. instead of $game_player

Cheat Menu's Morality Editor also uses this same formula as the editor is used.
However, if the $game_player.actor.morality_plus variable is less than 200 the shown value is inaccurate.

ie: $game_player.actor.morality_plus is where the permanent reduction is stored.
While it is 200, it doesn't affect Lona's Morality (because ($game_player.actor.morality_plus-200) would be 0)
The variable has a value range of 0 to 200.

 

[Moya621]

When adjusting Lona's Morality, you also need to change $game_player.actor.morality_plus

When the game itself updates $game_player.actor.morality (what is shown in the menu) it does so using this formula: [in function recalculateStats]

$game_player.actor.morality = $game_player.actor.morality_lona + ($game_player.actor.morality_plus-200)

Note: In the actual function code, it uses self. instead of $game_player

Cheat Menu's Morality Editor also uses this same formula as the editor is used.
However, if the $game_player.actor.morality_plus variable is less than 200 the shown value is inaccurate.

ie: $game_player.actor.morality_plus is where the permanent reduction is stored.
While it is 200, it doesn't affect Lona's Morality (because ($game_player.actor.morality_plus-200) would be 0)
The variable has a value range of 0 to 200.

It worked.
Thanks.
However, why did this happen? A bug?

 

[Kenny567]

It worked.
Thanks.
However, why did this happen? A bug?

Whenever you do something that adds a permanent reduction, it changes that morality_plus value.

I was just testing things out and for some reason morality_plus keeps resetting back to 200, which is weird.
To be fair though, I haven't checked into how that value actually gets updated...

 

[Moya621]

ie: $game_player.actor.morality_plus is where the permanent reduction is stored.

To be honest, I don't understand why it is needed at all?
What does "permanent reduction" mean?

I'm even more confused about what I broke in my save...

 

[Kenny567]

To be honest, I don't understand why it is needed at all?
What does "permanent reduction" mean?

A reduction that cannot normally be undone.

Also, I've looked into morality_plus a bit more and most of the edits I found seem to be on the max limit of the stat (mostly equipment modifiers)

That explains why it was being weird.