RPGM LonaRPG [v0.9.9.1.0] [EccmA417]

[NiKiller88]

Do I understand correctly that completing every single quest in the game doesn't give you enough money to buy a ride on the ship (if you side with Cecily that is)? I've almost finished all the quests in the game (minus some misc ones that only give you morality), and I'm nowhere near having 20 gold coins. In fact, I need way more now because the price always rises and theoretically caps at 30 gold coins with a world danger level of 100. And yeah, siding with Cecily was the biggest mistake. Not only is it unprofitable as fuck, but she's also retarded. I thought she knew what she was doing. She didn't. If I were to betray her, I'd already have enough money to leave the island. But I digress

I know there's an effective grinding method involving smoking meat, but it requires unfathomable 10 SUR (seriously? ten fucking points just for smoking meat?). Since I'm level 49, even completing several big quests in a row won't give me a single level. And like I said, I've almost finished all the available non-repeatable quests anyway

Did I softlock myself? Theoretically, I'd need to complete small, repeatable quests a couple thousand times just to level up my SUR to smoke meat (and I don't see any other grinding methods that are worth it). At that point, the ship ticket price will be 30 gold coins, and the world danger level will be 100, which will be annoying and unbearable

How are you supposed to finish the game without insane grinding, which you'd have to plan in advance and level the character accordingly? (which is obviously not possible for a first walkthrough and is just plain boring. I want to play the game, not cheese the shit out of it)

I assume that becoming a gladiator isn't profitable either. Is it?

 

[RLJFZ]

Do I understand correctly that completing every single quest in the game doesn't give you enough money to buy a ride on the ship (if you side with Cecily that is)? I've almost finished all the quests in the game (minus some misc ones that only give you morality), and I'm nowhere near having 20 gold coins. In fact, I need way more now because the price always rises and theoretically caps at 30 gold coins with a world danger level of 100. And yeah, siding with Cecily was the biggest mistake. Not only is it unprofitable as fuck, but she's also retarded. I thought she knew what she was doing. She didn't. If I were to betray her, I'd already have enough money to leave the island. But I digress

I know there's an effective grinding method involving smoking meat, but it requires unfathomable 10 SUR (seriously? ten fucking points just for smoking meat?). Since I'm level 49, even completing several big quests in a row won't give me a single level. And like I said, I've almost finished all the available non-repeatable quests anyway

Did I softlock myself? Theoretically, I'd need to complete small, repeatable quests a couple thousand times just to level up my SUR to smoke meat (and I don't see any other grinding methods that are worth it). At that point, the ship ticket price will be 30 gold coins, and the world danger level will be 100, which will be annoying and unbearable

How are you supposed to finish the game without insane grinding, which you'd have to plan in advance and level the character accordingly? (which is obviously not possible for a first walkthrough and is just plain boring. I want to play the game, not cheese the shit out of it)

I assume that becoming a gladiator isn't profitable either. Is it?

I see you're at the point where you completed almost everything and now need to leave the island via the ship, but this one will require a hefty amount of money which is between 20-30 Gold coins. Yup, completing all quests (if you didn't side with Milo) doesn't net you enough money for the ship. You didn't softlock yourself no worries. You just need to 'grind' content.

For money, there's multiple ways. My own preferred method is farming Mutated Mushroom inside a dead forest (second paragraph. That's where most of my 200+ Gold coins came from), it doesn't require any stat (WIS just increases the selling price) and is easy to do. Just make sure to bring a horse. Also try to do it only during daytime since nighttime there is hella dark. (You can also grind Gold coins from the Mage vendor if pushes come to shove lol)

For endgame leveling, it's either saving prisoners, prostitution or rape loop. I took the first method, saving prisoners, and the place I found the easiest to save them is this (make sure the world difficulty doesn't exceed a certain number, like 30+ iirc):

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For fast multiple rebirths, I got my own speedrun tech I do right at the beginning of a New Game (doesn't need to be high level, but it does help in completing the speedrun faster, just make sure the difficulty is set to 'HARD' not higher).

 

[KingXtream22]

Do I understand correctly that completing every single quest in the game doesn't give you enough money to buy a ride on the ship (if you side with Cecily that is)? I've almost finished all the quests in the game (minus some misc ones that only give you morality), and I'm nowhere near having 20 gold coins. In fact, I need way more now because the price always rises and theoretically caps at 30 gold coins with a world danger level of 100. And yeah, siding with Cecily was the biggest mistake. Not only is it unprofitable as fuck, but she's also retarded. I thought she knew what she was doing. She didn't. If I were to betray her, I'd already have enough money to leave the island. But I digress

I know there's an effective grinding method involving smoking meat, but it requires unfathomable 10 SUR (seriously? ten fucking points just for smoking meat?). Since I'm level 49, even completing several big quests in a row won't give me a single level. And like I said, I've almost finished all the available non-repeatable quests anyway

Did I softlock myself? Theoretically, I'd need to complete small, repeatable quests a couple thousand times just to level up my SUR to smoke meat (and I don't see any other grinding methods that are worth it). At that point, the ship ticket price will be 30 gold coins, and the world danger level will be 100, which will be annoying and unbearable

How are you supposed to finish the game without insane grinding, which you'd have to plan in advance and level the character accordingly? (which is obviously not possible for a first walkthrough and is just plain boring. I want to play the game, not cheese the shit out of it)

I assume that becoming a gladiator isn't profitable either. Is it?

For first gameplay if u didnt side with Cecily its rebirth without completing game or grind until get bored :/ . for second gameplay i think we have to grind smoke meat and (if u want to deal with abominations too) mutated mushroom at some point.On my first gameplay i barely touched wisdom and survival and its not even worth try to grind just die and rebirth(I was level 51).

 

[Koorwa]

Compared to darkest dungeon how rougelike is this? I can do torchless runs in DD and even demolish the base game with only crimson court giving me the occasional forced retreat so compared to DD, how worst or forgiving are the rng and the mechanics in this game?

 

[RLJFZ]

Compared to darkest dungeon how rougelike is this? I can do torchless runs in DD and even demolish the base game with only crimson court giving me the occasional forced retreat so compared to DD, how worst or forgiving are the rng and the mechanics in this game?

LonaRPG is a sandbox game (not really roguelike), it's akin to games like Skyrim, Fallout, GTA and such. It's definitely far far more forgiving with far far less RNG in comparison to DD. I haven't played much of DD since I'm not that into games that are very RNG-heavy. This game is more knowledge check than stat or RNG check, it's only unforgiving for people who don't know much about the game's content and its mechanics (aka beginners. Veteran can complete all content even with a level 1 Lona), so they gotta have to experiment to see how things work which is exactly what's fun about this game (and what's nasty for people who don't want to think too much) since its mechanics is extremely deep, but simple (I still discover new stuff and techs even after hitting more than 200 hours).

If you love challenge, if you love to experiment, if you're a gamer who love to use his head, if you're here for the RPG element before the sex, if you don't mind suffering from the lack of info as a beginner, if you love making NPCs fight among themselves (my favorite thing in this game) then I invite you to play LonaRPG. I recommend to go in blind and see for yourself first.

 

[Koorwa]

LonaRPG is a sandbox game (not really roguelike), it's akin to games like Skyrim, Fallout, GTA and such. It's definitely far far more forgiving with far far less RNG in comparison to DD. I haven't played much of DD since I'm not that into games that are very RNG-heavy. This game is more knowledge check than stat or RNG check, it's only unforgiving for people who don't know much about the game's content and its mechanics (aka beginners. Veteran can complete all content even with a level 1 Lona), so they gotta have to experiment to see how things work which is exactly what's fun about this game (and what's nasty for people who don't want to think too much) since its mechanics is extremely deep, but simple (I still discover new stuff and techs even after hitting more than 200 hours).

If you love challenge, if you love to experiment, if you're a gamer who love to use his head, if you're here for the RPG element before the sex, if you don't mind suffering from the lack of info as a beginner, if you love making NPCs fight among themselves (my favorite thing in this game) then I invite you to play LonaRPG. I recommend to go in blind and see for yourself first.

Thank you for the reply! I know it might sound bit rude after you already typed out a long answer but i want to ask if the RNG can be manipulated or subverted the same way in DD? i realized that this game is similar to DD in being a knowledge check but i want to know how much of the RNG you can subvert or manipulate just by having extensive knowledge.

im a fan of rougelike with heavy RNG but i only like it when the RNG punishes me for bad decisions and not the RNG just deciding to fuck with me just because it felt like it

 

[RLJFZ]

Thank you for the reply! I know it might sound bit rude after you already typed out a long answer but i want to ask if the RNG can be manipulated or subverted the same way in DD? i realized that this game is similar to DD in being a knowledge check but i want to know how much of the RNG you can subvert or manipulate just by having extensive knowledge.

im a fan of rougelike with heavy RNG but i only like it when the RNG punishes me for bad decisions and not the RNG just deciding to fuck with me just because it felt like it

There's definitely the type of RNG that can fuck your entire playthrough just coz it felt like it. Even if you have the knowledge and have everything planned well you can still get caught off guard, one example is getting ambushed by bandit in the starting city, Noer, where the rural place is usually pretty cramped so you'll oftentimes get surrounded. One counter example is by increasing Lona's Weak stat to 50+ and make those bandits try to rape Lona instead of attacking her, that allows you to instigate a fight between those bandits and seize a chance for escape. However you can still get fucked by the RNG stun that comes from the bandits' light attack, or even be surrounded still, so it's not an entirely foolproof method (you can alleviate the stun effect through shielding).

The RNG isn't as prevalent as in DD, but it's still enough to get you fucked regardless of your strategies mainly because of bad positioning and stun.

 

[Koorwa]

There's definitely the type of RNG that can fuck your entire playthrough just coz it felt like it. Even if you have the knowledge and have everything planned well you can still get caught off guard, one example is getting ambushed by bandit in the starting city, Noer, where the rural place is usually pretty cramped so you'll oftentimes get surrounded. One counter example is by increasing Lona's Weak stat to 50+ and make those bandits try to rape Lona instead of attacking her, that allows you to instigate a fight between those bandits and seize a chance for escape. However you can still get fucked by the RNG stun that comes from the bandits' light attack, or even be surrounded still, so it's not an entirely foolproof method (you can alleviate the stun effect through shielding).

The RNG isn't as prevalent as in DD, but it's still enough to get you fucked regardless of your strategies mainly because of bad positioning and stun.

Ahhh sht, thanks for the answer and yes this is my definition of bad RNG, though id still try the game and see if i can manage the RNG

 

[RLJFZ]

Ahhh sht, thanks for the answer and yes this is my definition of bad RNG, though id still try the game and see if i can manage the RNG

Yeah, that specifically is bad RNG, however the game isn't filled with it so most of the situations is under your control IF you know what you're doing, hence the existence of a myrriad good interesting techs. This game as I said isn't a roguelike, it's a sandbox game that encourages experimentation through trial and error. One single situation can be resolved through many types of way, not just 2 or 3. Meta build or meta gameplay doesn't exist here.

 

[NiKiller88]

Damn, that's some solid advice! Thank you!

farming Mutated Mushroom inside a dead forest

Sounds good, will try!

For endgame leveling, it's either saving prisoners

And that's exactly what I started doing. I thought it would be a better grinding option. I'm glad it actually is

make sure the world difficulty doesn't exceed a certain number, like 30+ iirc

Well, it's too late. It's at level 49, and it will become level 50 any minute now

make sure the difficulty is set to 'HARD' not higher

Can't imagine playing this game on anything other than hard. It would become an unnecessary tedium. Spoiling food? No thanks

or grind until get bored

I guess it's my only option now, lol. Oh well. I want to finish this playthrough

mutated mushroom at some point

Yeah, I really wanna try this now

just die and rebirth

I'd also like to point out that I'm playing the virgin route, so no rebirths for me, lol

 

[Dr_Kek]

what mod allow to get a white skin like that pls?

 

[NiKiller88]

Compared to darkest dungeon how rougelike is this?

Not roguelike at all. I know exactly what you're looking for, and no, this game is nothing like it
LonaRPG is an action RPG. It's not a game about numbers, it's about knowing the game mechanics. It has a lot of real-time fights that can get hectic quickly. It also has stealth, by the way

i want to know how much of the RNG you can subvert or manipulate just by having extensive knowledge

This game is not about subverting numbers. Your DD skills won't help you here

No, I'm not trying to discourage you from playing it. In fact, I highly recommend it because it's just good. It's just that this is definitely not what you're expecting. If you like real RPGs (but more fighting oriented, not talking), this is it. It sometimes reminds me of the OG Fallout games (like 1 and 2) or Gothic. Yeah, Gothic is a good example in a sense that you get fucked at the beginning because you have no idea what to do. But it's nothing like DD. At all

 

[KingXtream22]

I'd also like to point out that I'm playing the virgin route, so no rebirths for me, lol

If you are using roleplay-s mod there is an item called 'affinity' for each race that let you rebirth as that race, you can get them from cliff(x:43 y:68), affinites requriements are completing unique npcs questline(Cecily,Cocona,Elise) i dont know which questline need to be done for abomination affinity.

 

[KingXtream22]

what mod allow to get a white skin like that pls?
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probably Desu mod

 

[Mankean2]

Help

 

[DogeD]

I'm going for a warrior build, mostly to snipe enemies. Can anyone recommend what traits to level first? I was thinking of investing some in scout, wisdom, constitution and the rest in combat. Or would that sort of distribution be stretched too wide?

 

[Koorwa]

Not roguelike at all. I know exactly what you're looking for, and no, this game is nothing like it
LonaRPG is an action RPG. It's not a game about numbers, it's about knowing the game mechanics. It has a lot of real-time fights that can get hectic quickly. It also has stealth, by the way

This game is not about subverting numbers. Your DD skills won't help you here

No, I'm not trying to discourage you from playing it. In fact, I highly recommend it because it's just good. It's just that this is definitely not what you're expecting. If you like real RPGs (but more fighting oriented, not talking), this is it. It sometimes reminds me of the OG Fallout games (like 1 and 2) or Gothic. Yeah, Gothic is a good example in a sense that you get fucked at the beginning because you have no idea what to do. But it's nothing like DD. At all

I see, so this game is a different breed al together, will dive into it after clearing games im currently playing

 

[NiKiller88]

wisdom

I don't think you need wisdom in your build. One point of wisdom only adds one trading point to each item you sell (should add 1% of the price instead if you ask me). It also adds magic attack damage (irrelevant for you), and, at some ludicrous levels (something like 20), it adds new dialogue options several times throughout the game (not worth it). Sure, it also spawns more herbs in the world, but whatever.

Or would that sort of distribution be stretched too wide?

Yes

 

[HikkiG]

I don't think you need wisdom in your build. One point of wisdom only adds one trading point to each item you sell (should add 1% of the price instead if you ask me). It also adds magic attack damage (irrelevant for you), and, at some ludicrous levels (something like 20), it adds new dialogue options several times throughout the game (not worth it). Sure, it also spawns more herbs in the world, but whatever.

Yes

I think most of the WIS checks are 15, with 20 being exceptionally rare (like the Woodson family one.)

 

[Banshee96]

Well, it's too late. It's at level 49, and it will become level 50 any minute now

Well, actually... (and it's been a while so maybe this event is not in there? someone updated pls correct me) There is a small chance that in the main town, you can encounter a preacher from the church. If you pay them enough they can reduce the world difficulty.