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About the content, be straight forward with all planned tags right from the start, you will get a lot of negative reaction if peoples come across unexpected and unavoidable specific fetishes, I'm stating the obvious here of course, but as long as you're crystal clear about your intentions with the game, you can spare yourself a lot of the hate that will almost inevitably come your way.

because yeah, no matter what you do, someone somewhere will hate you for it. x)

That's some nice models you got there, even if HS start to show its limitations, you can already play around with what you already have, and eventually edit/age as you said, your characters as chapters progress.

I can see that as a good opportunity to learn from experience and a good justification to change/adapt the models with what your characters are going trough.

asking around can get you feedbacks, but most of the time all you will have "I like it" and that's it, In my opinion: leave the door open but don't expect too much constructive criticism.

and the opposite is equally true, getting criticism (whether good or bad) doesn't mean you HAVE to change, for me the most important is to feed your imagination.

Now there's Damien's model left :p
 
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Now there's Damien's model left :p
Haha, about that, I'm actually working on him for a couple of days now and I finally made a significant difference from his face model before.

This is the current.
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And this one is before xD Looks goofy I know. Not the mature Damien I'm trying to achieve.
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Though I might keep the hair color from before.

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I finished most of what I really need for my planned scenes. (The ones in gold frames) I've built quite the roster although in games like Eternum, their character cards might be more diverse and big. Some of these cards are just a variant of the same character though. Like Ophelia having 2 variants as well as Clara, the homeless. Then the MC. I'll continue this another day and probably create the slightly older and the older version for both Iriel and Sofia.

But while I know that this part is just a smaller part of the project, what I should really be focusing is finding the right map or creating the right map for my scenes which I will take more time to learn about since they are locked behind paywalls on patreon and even scarce when I try to look at tutorials for.

About the content, be straight forward with all planned tags right from the start, you will get a lot of negative reaction if peoples come across unexpected and unavoidable specific fetishes, I'm stating the obvious here of course, but as long as you're crystal clear about your intentions with the game, you can spare yourself a lot of the hate that will almost inevitably come your way.
Yeah I guess I should be more upfront about what my game contents will contain. While I do think that this is still essentially a corruption game, the story had changed as well as the character dynamics.

Damien is still gonna get subjected to Sabrina's corruption, though I do intend for him to keep his own sexual interests. In Rosewood, suppose that there's a phenomena that affects people's mood for sexual activity. Sabrina just happens to find the source of it. The drug. The town government is secretly feeding a portion of the populace with the drugs for an experiment.

While also having hotspots for the "secret dealings" of certain people involved in the Mayor's little syndicate. When you see these hotspot, it's what most people would call the Rosewood's Underworld where very depraved things can happen. Damien meets Clara through Sabrina. She's an orphan and her "mother" just passed away a few days ago from the hunger and torment she received. In a weird string of luck, Clara has never been touched by anyone until Damien. Her "mother" always protected her with her life but Clara knows about the suffering her mom went through.

Damien gets framed up as intended. There's no more step-brother or father in the story as of now. I'll think about it later on but the main antagonist is the Mayor for this one anyways. His professor was the culprit. He investigates and finds out what really happened and got his professor kicked through the help of their Principal Amara, who happens to also become the new Professor for Damien's class after. So anyways, Professor Grisha is a part of the shady group in Rosewood, one of the Mayor's underling's underling. A bottom feeder. He framed Damien by pure coincidence as it didn't matter who took the blame.

In Damien's suspension before he got back to his university, he got to investigate these hotspots and learn more about the truth with the drugs. Deepen his relationship with Sabrina and take care of Clara in the bare minimum. Clara eventually opens up to Damien. You can call it Stockholm Syndrome.

Damien finds more about Professor Grisha's involvement which led to him breaking in the school and taking the video evidence of Grisha's acts. Caden, Damien's bestfriend being the quality hacker he is, sent the clip to the school management and Professor Grisha to blackmail them and give favorable conditions to Damien as an apology.

Grisha resigns and the university clears Damien's name in an announcement as an apology. Damien can finally continue life as normal. But being involved with such powerful things like the drug and the underworld, Damien simple couldn't turn a blind eye to it. He finds out more about Sabrina and how she once was a victim of the system which led to her eccentric nature. Sabrina brought Damien to Clara for a reason. She may have wanted to save her but didn't know how because she couldn't save herself. If she let Clara be, she would eventually go to those assholes that killed her mother in order to survive. Damien was just the better option.

Damien was enraged on Sabrina and Clara's behalf and decides to take the organization down. But because they're still being subjected to the drug, even though subtle, crazy things still happen in Damien's house.

I'll go off lore now but that's the gist of my story.

Lyra is a sexually suppressed woman while Iriel is sexually curious by nature. And with small doses of the drug contaminating the water source of their area. You probably can guess what would happen. Damien is no exception to this.

WOAH. Okay sorry for rambling there xD I also find myself typing my heart out sometimes when I'm in the mood.

and the opposite is equally true, getting criticism (whether good or bad) doesn't mean you HAVE to change, for me the most important is to feed your imagination.
Yeah I'm feeling more comfortable with the way my story is structured as of now. Maybe I should change Iriel and Sofia's character designs and age them up a little to match the 16 year old look. That's their supposed age anyways, but Iriel is short and is a late bloomer. Sofia is just slightly taller than her but they're both short.

Clara is 18 years old while Sabrina is 20 as well as Jasmine being 21. Damien is 20. Lyra is 38. Ophelia is 39. Professor Amara should be 29.
 
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Oh yeah having a male protagonist being the subject of the corruption is definitely a good idea, and I can already picture myself some sort of "Communicating vessels " effect between Sabrina progressively softening up to Damien as time goes by, as he's becoming "roughen up".

the one thing I'm hesitant about I the the model for the homeless girl, wouldn't you cover her chest ? x) unless you have envisioned someone so fucked up beyond all repair that she doesn't even bother having the least amount of decency, but theses peoples usually need to be forcefully fed and taken care of otherwise they'll just let themselves perish.

With what you just written I can already tell you have a more deterministic approach to your story, where everything that is occurring make logical sense in an already determined setting, but you can still come up with some interesting dialogues options in a morally gray story.

I still love theses nihilistic story and have someone pointlessly trying to fight against the tide.
 
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one thing I'm hesitant about I the the model for the homeless girl, wouldn't you cover her chest ? x) unless you have envisioned someone so fucked up beyond all repair that she doesn't even bother having the least amount of decency, but theses peoples usually need to be forcefully fed and taken care of otherwise they'll just let themselves perish
I'm glad you pointed that out. I'll be honest. Initially I thought of making her become a filler character who's become subjected to horrible things while she lost her "life". To show the grim side of the town but then, my ideas came to pile up.

At first. I thought that Sabrina thought of Clara as a lost kitten. A child with an innocence still yet to be stolen away from her. But as Sabrina was and still is, she thinks that it's better to subject her to the world she already is in rather than leaving her to be toyed with by others which may end up really killing her like the one who took care of Clara.

At this point, I'm thinking about Clara being in a pure state but with lifeless eyes as she just lost the only person she ever trusted. When I made her homeless design, I was thinking otherwise.

But as to the reason why I decided to give Clara a fair chance to the story. Let me tell you about Ophelia.

Her body is modified to perfection. She's seen as untouchable and intimidating by most people. Being the Mayor's wife of course, she indulges in her lifestyle.

Let me cut to the chase.

Ophelia got pregnant 16 years ago. She traveled overseas telling her husband that she wanted to visit her family and have her body modified with surgeries as a present for him. He's a man of stature and like to see everything as perfect so he agreed.

Silas thought that Ophelia was unable to bear a child. But she did. And she did not go back until she conceived a child and left again without telling anyone. She was gone for a year.

When Ophelia gave her child up to a homeless woman. She told her to protect that child even if it costs her her life. Coldly so.

In Ophelia's heart. She knew that the sins of the parent doesn't have to be beared as the sin of their child. She knew that that kid is gonna be the kindest and the brightest kid if she were to grow up. She didnt wanna subject her to the life she lived even if it meant having that child live through poverty.

Maybe it was cruel but she had a heart. Clara isn't safe anywhere besides "not existing". This is one of the conversations Damien will have with Ophelia later on.

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Well I should probably cover her up a bit more then. Although I'm still a bit weirded out by it since I plan to have some degradation on the early scenes. Even I'm curious on how will that develop.

Yes Sabrina will soften. Damien will get his grip together. He started caring for two people more than he thought he needed to.

Also this is not the end of it. I'm a huuuuuge conspiracy theory enthusiast. So I might introduce some sci-fi fantasy esque things later on but I dont see it coming until the second or third game.

There's a reason why I'm deciding if I wanna use "Pulse of Pleasure" instead of Ecstasy's Eclipse. Since the former correlates about vibrations and vibrations are Nikola Tesla's thing. In my story, altering the vibrations of a human body tune could lead to the destruction of the brain. <Neurafog>

I could go deep into explaining the 3 types of drug.

But I guess I'll still make Damien use some on Iriel, the Obliviscence. It just temporarily erases her memory of the moment that gives her pleasure. It could make some interesting scenarios, besides with her not knowing about anything that happened, she could retain her inexperience which could lead to more dominant scenes for Damien.
 
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I'm a huuuuuge conspiracy theory enthusiast
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on the drugs: I had some reflections on a somewhat familiar part of a story, It's a matter of technicality and realism, and I was going really REALLY in depth trying to be as scrupulously realistic and detailed as possible, but at some point it get confusing for the players that are not "here" to have a magisterial demonstration on newton's law.

I have an inner debate about whether or not "dumb down" to make everything as clear and easy to assimilate by everyone, against being EXACT.

I know realism is here to provide a common ground but it should go out the window at the first opportunity, I know I struggle with that because I kinda hate cheap excuses and "it work because plot" "it's magic" or again "it's from the demon king".

I'm sorry if it's a bit vague, I honestly don't know myself if it's better to have just "it's a vial with a red fluid, so that mean it's evil, it come from an evil plant from evil land" rather than going down the rabbit hole of actual drug production methods and using real world techniques and molecules.

because if it's for ME: I know myself, I would absolutely ADORE to have that kind of attention to the tiniest of details and the exactitude on a particular subject, but I also know it's gonna fly over the heads of a lot of peoples.

a " " solution " " I though of was to have some sort of journal entry, where during the gameplay you come accross elements that are described "simply" and then add around in the game environment "journals" to give the player an option to read (or ignore) in details the lore etc.

rather than force them to read a 2 hours long dissertation (and have INTERPOL knocking on your door to question you why you're teaching peoples how to do illegal stuff)
 
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on the drugs: I had some reflections on a somewhat familiar part of a story, It's a matter of technicality and realism, and I was going really REALLY in depth trying to be as scrupulously realistic and detailed as possible, but at some point it get confusing for the players that are not "here" to have a magisterial demonstration on newton's law.

I have an inner debate about whether or not "dumb down" to make everything as clear and easy to assimilate by everyone, against being EXACT.

I know realism is here to provide a common ground but it should go out the window at the first opportunity, I know I struggle with that because I kinda hate cheap excuses and "it work because plot" "it's magic" or again "it's from the demon king".

I'm sorry if it's a bit vague, I honestly don't know myself if it's better to have just "it's a vial with a red fluid, so that mean it's evil, it come from an evil plant from evil land" rather than going down the rabbit hole of actual drug production methods and using real world techniques and molecules.

because if it's for ME: I know myself, I would absolutely ADORE to have that kind of attention to the tiniest of details and the exactitude on a particular subject, but I also know it's gonna fly over the heads of a lot of peoples.

a " " solution " " I though of was to have some sort of journal entry, where during the gameplay you come accross elements that are described "simply" and then add around in the game environment "journals" to give the player an option to read (or ignore) in details the lore etc.

rather than force them to read a 2 hours long dissertation (and have INTERPOL knocking on your door to question you why you're teaching peoples how to do illegal stuff)
Hey! Sorry for the late reply. I was busy with college stuff since we've started to develop our short animated 3d film for our thesis xd

But anyways! About that, well I'm half and half when it comes to lore dumping on my readers. While I do recognize that not everyone is interested in sitting and reading about these details that even I hate when done wrong, I'm probably gonna hint these things in small doses and yeah leaving notes out there or clues to hint about the deeper lore for your world is also fun but most of people would straight up miss it since it's not what they initially came for when they wanna play a porn game.

But yeah, I still plan to keep things intriguing when time comes and I'm gonna have to put it out there. I'm taking great inspiration on Ripples by Jestur and Eternum which both have excellent stories that lay out the lore through player interactions with their world. Sad that they release every 6 months but that's to be expected when they put all the time and effort into creating them full of content that people truly enjoy.

But while I took a short break off planning and creating or adding things for my game, it gave me a realization that it realistically might take me over a year or two to be able to release a game with such quality as I intend. (Yeah I'm kind of a perfectionist) I don't wanna half-ass everything and bring my game no justice.

That's why I wanna thank you for believing in me! I'd love for you to be the one of the first people to try my game if you're still around by then.

I'm gonna post in this thread about the updates maybe not as much since I have to focus on other things as well. Feel free to mute the thread if my notifs bother you btw xD

I just feel like this thread is the most hidden I could post in without making another thread. But yeah!

Here's another practice render for you my friend :)

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Finding maps for the scenes is still a struggle I might be forced to just make the setting an urban city xD
 
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Hey! Sorry for the late reply. I was busy with college stuff since we've started to develop our short animated 3d film for our thesis xd
No arm done ^^ what courses are you on if you don't mind me asking ?

I'd love for you to be the one of the first people to try my game if you're still around by then.
And I'd love to try out your game, I'll be around, we can also share information to keep contact outside this forum if you do so wishes.

Finding maps for the scenes is still a struggle I might be forced to just make the setting an urban city xD
Depends on the type of render you wanna go for (I'm talking about esthetic, you do you of course) but something I've done is to take screen capture from google earth and edit them with filters on photoshop to give them a something of an "impressionist" look.

stjepan sejic "Shiniez" is also doing that kind of background from edited photos to get simple and efficient results.


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I always love to play pong with ideas, I'd be more than happy to talk with you anytime. ^^
 
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No arm done ^^ what courses are you on if you don't mind me asking ?
Well I'm studying in a digital animation course for game development and film.

And I'd love to try out your game, I'll be around, we can also share information to keep contact outside this forum if you do so wishes.
Alright! About the contacts, I don't have any discord accounts dedicated for my game development career yet. For now I feel comfortable sharing my progress over here since I don't wanna end up keeping false promises you know? I'll probably make one once I release the game though. I'll be sure to tag you!

Depends on the type of render you wanna go for (I'm talking about esthetic, you do you of course) but something I've done is to take screen capture from google earth and edit them with filters on photoshop to give them a something of an "impressionist" look.
That's actually pretty brilliant ngl, I want to keep the style consistent though. I can try and work some things on my end, if finding maps truly is holding me back. I might try and find ways to render my scenes on blender fully. I think that way, I'd have more control over everything but the animation might not be as smooth as the built in ones from HS2. But we will see, I see a lot of people making 3D porn over blender and honestly they're pretty nice.

I'd be more than happy to talk with you anytime. ^^
I'm glad, thanks again!

EDIT: You know what? I might just give it a shot. I'm using blender as my primary software anyways. I'll improve my skills in Blender in the long run. Hitting two birds in one stone.
 
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EDIT: You know what? I might just give it a shot. I'm using blender as my primary software anyways. I'll improve my skills in Blender in the long run. Hitting two birds in one stone.
that would be fantastic, I never really used blender but I did fiddled a tad bit with it, It's certain that it come with it's own challenges... but you can undoubtedly reach unparalleled levels of quality, opposed to the clear limitation of Daz and HS2 , I'm now even MORE really enthusiast to see what you can come up with !

I might try and find ways to render my scenes on blender fully. I think that way, I'd have more control over everything but the animation might not be as smooth as the built in ones from HS2. But we will see, I see a lot of people making 3D porn over blender and honestly they're pretty nice.
animations on blender are nice indeed (even though some look like someone is slapping a pile of jello), that's how I discovered the game overwatch, I can name the female characters even though I never played it (lol).

jokes aside: I don't know how much work it would take for you to render a background on blender, but I assume that you would have to make furniture, cars, trees ? I mean, I know there are tools for light projection and ambient occlusion, and you can download ready-made assets that you can slam together, but still, look like a decent amount of work, especially if you add post-processing like bokeh and make the background indistinguishable x) I'm sure you'll figure something out, just don't overload yourself ok ?
 
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that would be fantastic, I never really used blender but I did fiddled a tad bit with it, It's certain that it come with it's own challenges... but you can undoubtedly reach unparalleled levels of quality, opposed to the clear limitation of Daz and HS2 , I'm now even MORE really enthusiast to see what you can come up with !
Of course, I've been thinking of ways on how to tackle it. My best option rn is render the characters separately from the background in blender and then match the lighting haha. It sure is a temporary fix. I still gotta be confident enough with my rigging and animation skills before I do everything in blender.
I don't know how much work it would take for you to render a background on blender, but I assume that you would have to make furniture, cars, trees ? I mean, I know there are tools for light projection and ambient occlusion, and you can download ready-made assets that you can slam together, but still, look like a decent amount of work, especially if you add post-processing like bokeh and make the background indistinguishable x) I'm sure you'll figure something out, just don't overload yourself ok ?
Assembling things is a piece of cake for me (I think) I know my way around to make things scenic in Blender. Here's some of my post processed renders in blender. I know it looks a bit cartoony there, I'm kind of a bit behind since I've not been able to touch blender for a while now. But I'm pretty good at texturing things as I remember.
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But anyways! Sorry I've been busy as always. I made a test run for my game xD I'm shooting you a dm so you can test it if you like. I know you probably aren't into the things that will be the content of the game but I would love to hear your opinion :)
 
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Yeah that's one thing I hate about this, is that it's originally censored genitals they made no efforts in the software to have a seamless transition between the pelvis and the penis.

other than that, by the way, Damien is hung like a horse holy christ, that's a big dick ! make me think that I saw some other shaft of unethical proportion from a blender animator Nyl2

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As much as I don't like futa, I have to admit that's the greatest best looking dick to have ever been made, I really like when creators are "creative" with shape and size lol.
 
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Yeah that's one thing I hate about this, is that it's originally censored genitals they made no efforts in the software to have a seamless transition between the pelvis and the penis.

other than that, by the way, Damien is hung like a horse holy christ, that's a big dick ! make me think that I saw some other shaft of unethical proportion from a blender animator Nyl2

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As much as I don't like futa, I have to admit that's the greatest best looking dick to have ever been made, I really like when creators are "creative" with shape and size lol.
Oh yeah there's not much I can do with dicks on my characters at the moment xD I will have to study that thing later on if I wanna push the quality of my games. But yeah, I didnt shrink the default dick of the game hence why it looks like a leg. Here's some shots from the improved version of the preview I made.

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I personally dont mind big dicks, I mean it's porn anyways xD but some people do mind them. I'll probably ask my audiences on their preferences next time. But this time, Damien is the stud. He's designed to get all the action he wants xD
 

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that's the face of inner peace xD

I'll probably ask my audiences on their preferences next time. But this time, Damien is the stud. He's designed to get all the action he wants xD
don't bother yourself with preferences, honestly, you will never make everyone happy xD never, no matter how hard you try.