Unity - Loser [v0.10.02] [Night City Productions]

A grind-fest like I never saw before. Played for 30 + hours and never saw a single scene. The definition of games is to entertain pplz for an amount of time, not to irritate players. There are people who work and can't spend more than 1 or 2 hours daily on a game. This is really frustrating. Good potential, but this grind is way too discouraging. Deleted.

There's a lot of cool ideas here, but there's mostly just insane grind. There's a crazy amount of topics to train up on both yourself and the various girls which award anywhere from 2 - 9 points at best. It takes time to even be able to train the right skills on the girls. For yourself, you have three tiers for each skill; some 100/200/300, some 100/200/400 or even 600.

I'll only mention story now to say that there isn't one. At all. The point of this 'game' is to grind points so you can change the girls' arch-types. Maybe that'll change in future, but for now that's it.

Additionally, you're half-tethered to your room for a lot. For example, you're doing something at the bar, but you need to change or re-load what's in your actionable inventory, but to do that you have to click several times and move to your room, do your thing, then click all the way back. Super annoying.

Hours upon hours of grinding for very little reward. Hours of mindlessly clicking around your screen for +2 xp in humor, +1 xp in stealth, +3 xp in video games. 15-20 skills that you need to grind up into the hundreds. And after you've done all that, there are very few scenes with very limited sexual content and very average renders.

Of all the grind fests on this site, this one might actually be the worst. I have no idea why it has so many people running defense for it and so many high reviews, but you can safely ignore everyone saying "It's just a slow build up, it's not handed to you like every other game" bla bla bla. You can create a build up through dialogue and scenes. This monstrosity is just objectively bad and lazy design.

Great game amazing 3D rendering and i have not encountered any bug or glitches so far, even tho there is kinda no story to this i still understood the MC situation. The game is grindy as heck its unbelievable !!!

While the 3d renderings are not bad, the game is ultimately a 1/5 simply due to the ridiculous amount of grind. There is no story or anything really, so the game is basically simply down to grinding conversations 100s of times to get enough exp to promote ONE character to a higher "tier", only to do it again several times.

short quick rating
1. Unique game play
2. A bit grindy
3. High quality rendering


> You either love it or hate it since the game play itself is just UNIQUE but once you are into it you can't get out of this game . For me it's the best one so far.
Definitely recommend to give it a shot for who haven't played this one yet

one of the best ones i have played. the satisfaction after so much grind is amazing. characters are changing behaviours clothes etc. through coruption level. feel so organic and rewarding. definitely recommended.

The content is great, the writing is entertaining, the concept is original, but as of writing the review (v0.04.07) the grindiness is absolute MURDER. Some characters (most notably Becky) have only one or two windows each day to interact, and needing to keep up Focus and Stamina means only incremental progress can be made each day. If a character needs to take two traits from zero or near-zero to 100% to move up AT, and realistically only one can be improved at a time in order to make sure conversations end positive, and you can (optimistically) get 10 points to a skill per interaction, that's 20 interactions. For a character like Becky with only one interaction slot per day, that's almost three weeks of game time for a single AT advancement. You might be able to parallel process and advance another character at the same time, but all the necessary upkeep on Focus/Stamina/Health, chores, doing whatever actions are needed to get the conversation topics necessary ... if it werent' for the possibility of using Cheat Engine to streamline the process a BIT, the game would be nigh-unplayable. I hate to say that, because I really want to like this game, but I had to cheat to get through it and that's the only reason I was able to go as high as 3 stars. It's early days, so I have hope, but there is a LOT of work to be done on QoL. Grinding isn't gameplay, it's just work, and that's not why I play games.

This game is a bit grindy. But it’s a game that pays off as you go. It’s not just a quick fap game, it’s one that has quality characters and a genuinely fun experience that has a certain rewarding feeling when you make it to the scenes you were trying for. A+ work

This game is really grindy - but in its own special way.

You make your progress through this game with conversations. Therefore you need topics to talk about, which are generated by conversations and a lot of activities.
By choosing specific topics, you can slowly transform the persons, you are talking to. But they all got different interests and some topics they don´t want to talk about at all. So you have to think and plan, how you get them to talk about the things you want.

With every conversation and activity you also gain xp for your own related skills, giving you more possibilities and activities.
Most of the skills are hidden at the beginning and revealed by gaining some related xp.
And the number of skills is already huge. At some point, I couldn´t believe I was unlocking new ones again.

Usually i hate grindy games, but with every new discovered topic and skill this game just makes me more curious, what it will offer.
So I´m talking and doing stuff and talking and doing stuff and - oh it´s 4am...
I´m officially addicted.

This game is f..king great
+Realistic incest content
+Has good game dynamics
+Interesting characters and looks
+Developer is f...king workholic (he should sleep more though :b we need him )
+Developer is actively answering questions.


-Maybe only negative thing: (i somewhat love and hate) grind is real. If you don't like grind, use cheat. To find it how to do it; use thread search button. In this games threads there are very good people who are willing to help (i love'em) , just don't ask already asked questions !!

Way, way, WAY too grindy and it's going this way with too many games. Devs that can't be arsed putting the work in so they make it as grindy as possible so they don't have to do as much work. This is not smart game design and the dev will get just as bored with the game as we do.

All the things you want in a porn game. Grinds a bit frustrating but rewards damn cant wait to see all the stuff the dev adds, for me this is waaay more preferable system than superpowered. As long as the dev keeps this pace and doesnt go meek on content and keeps adding varieties to subterfuge its great.

This review is based on version 0.04.02

The only reason im spending time reviweing this game, is because i wished this game was good. In fact there is a good game somewhere in here, but is burried under alot of terrible gameplay decisions, especially the absurd amout of grind.

Time for The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

The good:
- Original game design. (Game design is based in stats management and evolving the girls by increasing certain stats. I liked the complexity and found it original compared to other super linear games out there. Evolving a girl to a new ArchType, changes her behaviour, unlocking some new things to do and also changes her previous routine schedule, which can lead to some surprises and keeps the game fresh)
- Cast. (Thers a good and varied cast of characetrs with diferent personalities)
- Renders (The renders are well done, and some of the girls are beautifull)

The Bad:
- UI or User Interface. (Its bad and all over the place. Many basic things are hidden under sub menus that need extra clicks. Save slots dont mention any reference to date or time, so while the developer added 3 save slots in this latest update, thers no way to know where they lead , unless you memorized them.)

- Picking up topics to talk to girls ( Ok, what the hell the dev was thinking? The only way to see what conversation topics u have ready to talk is to go to your room/bathroom, open your inventory, and see what topics are in the hotbar. If you start a conversation with a girl, thers no way to access your inventory to pick a topic. You need to go back to your room/bathroom, pick the topics u want to talk about, and go back to the girl. Imagine a guy that everytime he stands in front of a girl, he has nothing to say, so he needs to go to a bathroom or bedroom, to gather his toughts, then go back to talk to the girl, this is how the developer tought was a good idea. The amount of clicks and wasted time to do this is ridiculous)

- Very few animations (There are like 5 animations in the entire game so far, and they could be better)

- Grind (while this game is based on raising stats, the amout of exp you gain to raise each stat is very little, and the game requires an obscene amount of grinding in order to advance.)

- Evolved girls forget previous raised skills ( Imagine spending hours to teach a girl about photography, and then when she evolves to a new AT or ArchType, she completly forgets about it. Adding the massive grind needed to raise stats, its like rubbing salt in a wound)

The Ugly:
- The Developer. He's eather sadistic that loves see us in pain, or he just loves that grind.

With some QoL (Quality of Life) improvements that i mention in The Bad section, this game would be an easy 8 out of 10, but it is what it is soo...

Final Score: 4/10 (and just because im rewarding creativity)

Game is beyond grind. There is a conversation mechanic in the game that is not introduced or explained. Took me forever to even see the icons showing how to set it up. It isn't clear how you're supposed to even talk to people.

The only time I even get the exercise option is when I have no Stamina. Once I have enough, the option doesn't show up.

Game is impossible to grind through. ZERO rewards for the effort.

Grind, grind, grind and mooooore grind.
Game is so so so slow. It's booring. Modeling are pretty an beautiful but... four hours of game for... anything.

Also need to grind for conversation topics, which can equipt as consumables and very slow.

It's the slower game I've played ever.

I gave this game a 5 star because:

*First of all this game has pure incest content, so you are not gonna deal with roomate/landlady bullshit.

*Dialogues between family members is really good. (sometimes too short but always good) On dialogues standpoint; in this new update (4.03) Diane's bar event, and Gina's "Changing to Sister with benefits) events were on spot. These were realistic and perfect.

*All family members have realictic background, for example;

-Becky always loved his brother, after her brother got arrested she entered very traumatic life period. In this period she got very vulnarable on her social life, and always bullied by others. Ofter all these "buliying" she became like them. (Bitchy) She became like them because she does not wanna get hurt by them anymore.

Note: Repair her, or make her more bitchy. It is always up to you.

*I like AT system. It exites me. How? When you change their AT, it changes nearly everthing on them. Clothes, how they behave on every day or special events (like house party), adding/extending new content etc. After i change their AT, i always roaming around to find new things, i dont know others but i really loved this content.

Cons
*It is really grindy. If you are not patient guy, please learn to use CheatEngine and SaveEditOnline. Even i using these time to time.

*Without a conversation it can be very boring to grind those stats.

*This game needs some kind of in game guide. I know this game very much and even i sometimes feel confused and lost.

where do i start?
cant see those very very small action buttons or even know how to save.
grind grind
the game has wayyyy too many mechanics to it, and very complicated.
grind grind
played for 2 hours and litterally got nowhere!
the dev seriously needs to do something with this game......severe overhaul

This game is about 99% pure grind, with little reward.
I played for about 4-5h the only animated scene i saw, was ur parents having sex...

For the grind:
-Money is near impossible to get.
-U need to grind for about 2 dozen different skills-very slow progression
as example: fitness ;
lvl 1 requires 100 points, lvl 2 300 and lvl 600 points- trough 1 aktion u gain about 3-5 points

U also need to grind for conversation topics, which can equipt as consumables.

Additional u have focus/stamina/health stats which limit ur daly activitis and u need to replenish.

So far i don't have seen any story, close to zero conversation...this can hardly be called a game, it's simply grind for a grinds sake.

I've played this game every update and support the project and I find the overall game and the renders to be very well done. However, I feel like I need to mention that this game requires a lot of grinding as stated by many of the reviewers. When you have a good sense of the game you can reach from the start to current content in about 20 hours, but that is literally 20 hours of pressing buttons and focusing on the game. If you like nice renders and enjoy earning them then this game is for you. If you only want to put like two hours of work into a game then in no way is this a game for you.