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Darklord_1965

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The Daughter is great, hot as hell. The Wife makes me want to quit the game. I really hope we can choose to bail on her at some point soon.
I feel the same. This is exactly why I'm already fed up with Justine and deleted it. The drunken bitch is too much for my taste probably because she reminds me too much of my EX wino with her insecurities and irrational perpetual drunken state. Good luck to the dev regardless but this one definitely isn't for me. Well done on the nice renders and adorable daughter.
 
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Sycho

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Line 48 in, "ch06_sc01" has "Mark" as the MC's name instead of the player's chosen name for the MC (or [mcname]). Fortunately there is only one instance of this in the update.
 
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This dialog should be made by the wife, not the daughter, right ?
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Not only that, why do they keep making renderings where you miss half the interesting things, when you don't hide the text constantly, or download a transparency script, which should have been added by the dev themselves...

I mean online decompiler, you can watch what others put in their scripts, copying someone's box-transparancy bar shouldn't be that hard. If you can make a game at all, that should be peanuts.
 

NewTricks

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I just got this on steam because I think it's a really good game.
I do think the mc starts out as a bit of an arsehole but I'm going to try and turn him into a decent dude
Who just happens to bang his maybe daughter
I don't think that banging his daughter is avoidable but hopefully, avoiding his being an asshole is. I would like an option in the story to get the wife help with her substance abuse issues and fix the relationship but I worry that discovering the truth will send her on a downward spiral.
 
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Yeah the wife is a bit toxic and I'm not a fan of toxic women usually. On this occasion though, I have a feeling there is more to her than meets the eye. I am looking forward to how the story pans out with her.
Please explain what she did to make you think she's toxic. If you take off your MC biased glasses for a second, you will see that her only real character flaw is her drinking problem.

If anything, the MC and Kailey are the toxic ones in this household lol. MC is a cheater and Kailey is playing some home wrecking mind games.

Interesting characters with both flaws and redeeming qualities and their interpersonal conflicts makes for a compelling story. The drama of this precarious situation is what drives this VN. This is one of the rare incest games that actually has good writing, but it seems like a lot of you guys want to turn it into another one-dimensional daddy daughter game with no stakes involved.
 
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If my notes are correct, the last update was two months ago.
The development time is short so the update. But i would suggest the dev to take more time(4-5 months) and give big updates because with this speed I don't think we will ever be able to play the ending.
 
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I don't think that banging his daughter is avoidable but hopefully, avoiding his being an asshole is. I would like an option in the story to get the wife help with her substance abuse issues and fix the relationship but I worry that discovering the truth will send her on a downward spiral.
Yeah, I know some people don't like the wife.
But I feel that the mc treats her badly.
I think If you are going to be a husband than act like one and help her for goodness sake.
That's why I'm hoping I can make the mc not an arsehole.
 

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The development time is short so the update. But i would suggest the dev to take more time(4-5 months) and give big updates because with this speed I don't think we will ever be able to play the ending.
LOL, no this development speed should continue. Every single developer who agreed to make more content in more time delivered 100-200% more development time, but 25-50 more content. And if people complain again, they get even less... If developer even want to discuss it. So, nope, development time/content should continue at current speed...
 
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Yeah, I know some people don't like the wife.
But I feel that the mc treats her badly.
I think If you are going to be a husband than act like one and help her for goodness sake.
That's why I'm hoping I can make the mc not an arsehole.
Well, MC wasn't mean to be mr. Nice Guy from beginning, he thinks with his dick. But his wife is also written to be a drunk bitch. The dynamics works. But they love each other in their way. I think Kailey is there to disrupt this. But the process with bonding with her is rushed, probably 2-3 episodes.
But Kailey isn't just an innocent girl with big eyes, she knows how the world spins, how to get what she wants. I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't his daughter at all. (I didn't play the last version yet, in last version they weren't sure...)
 
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Well, MC wasn't mean to be mr. Nice Guy from beginning, he thinks with his dick. But his wife is also written to be a drunk bitch. The dynamics works. But they love each other in their way. I think Kailey is there to disrupt this. But the process with bonding with her is rushed, probably 2-3 episodes.
But Kailey isn't just an innocent girl with big eyes, she knows how the world spins, how to get what she wants. I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't his daughter at all. (I didn't play the last version yet, in last version they weren't sure...)
I actually think Kailey is sweet & Innocent she is definitely my favourite character
I also don't think Justine is that bad tbh
 
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The development time is short so the update. But i would suggest the dev to take more time(4-5 months) and give big updates because with this speed I don't think we will ever be able to play the ending.
It really depends on the developer and whether or not he/she has any other people working on the project with them, TBH. I mean you could have one person dedicated to the coding/scripting part, another doing the writing and one person doing the rendering/animation. But that, obviously means the dev would have to make the money to be able to support such a team.

The dev I have been working with for the past several years is a one-man-band: meaning he does it all himself (which, in some aspects makes sense). If something gets screwed up, there's no one to blame for the error except the dev. Yet he's able to produce decent enough content on schedule every month. So each dev will obviously be different in their schedules depending on the situation (such as if creating VNs/games is their main source of income or if it's just a "side job") and how much content they want to put out in every update.

The hours it takes to do all of that alone is quite intensive, not to mention mind boggling. It also depends on how they create their games and what they use. Some are using AI rendering and voice acting (which is quite impressive, I'm not gonna lie. I've seen a few examples of it in action and my gawd... it's absolutely stunning). Others use bits of animation that aren't related to sex scenes at all, like motion (movement; i.e walking, moving their head, blinking their eyes, etc...) for example. Like, if you look at some games where the characters' faces appear beside the dialog box, their eyes are blinking and the head is moving from side-to-side or up and down. It blows me away the creativity used in VNs now-a- days. I don't think I would have the patience to do all of that, if I'm being honest. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I actually think Kailey is sweet & Innocent she is definitely my favourite character
I also don't think Justine is that bad tbh
Kailey looks so, but I'm not sure about her innocence. She had that "innocence" around their formal boss, but after she came with him home, she doesn't act so innocence any more.
MC isn't "meh"... He is horny idiot and try to fill other holes in his free time. Justine isn't of much use for him in her current state. Justine is now what we see, but I don't think she's bad, I like her.
You know how it is in the movies, you "hate" the good written negative protagonist more... They are all good written characters. I like them all.
 
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Kailey looks so, but I'm not sure about her innocence. She had that "innocence" around their formal boss, but after she came with him home, she doesn't act so innocence any more.
MC isn't "meh"... He is horny idiot and try to fill other holes in his free time. Justine isn't of much use for him in her current state. Justine is now what we see, but I don't think she's bad, I like her.
You know how it is in the movies, you "hate" the good written negative protagonist more... They are all good written characters. I like them all.
Yeah, Its going to be interesting to see how everything fall into place eventually.
 
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lukrame

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I think justine is hot and its awesome we got more content with her. tbh im more interested in a story of the MC reparing his relationship and learning to not be a complete douchebag then banging some jailbait daughter.
 
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