VN Ren'Py Love and Temptation [Ep.2 S2] [GruBoop]

3.30 star(s) 40 Votes

ptahn

Active Member
Jun 23, 2018
901
1,914
There is NTR in the game, but it does not concern the main character. At the moment, I have no plans to make NTR scenes concerning the main character. But I will create a poll and if people want, I will do it.
The truth is that if there is NTR in the game, you will struggle with getting patrons. After this post, NTR lovers will try to claim otherwise. If you do a search on "NTR" and look at the Patreon pages of the games that are listed, you will see that I am right. This is especially true of incest games where NTR can be the kiss of death. As a general rule, if you want your game to make money don't even hint at another male character having sex let alone show it.
 

Randeza

Active Member
May 16, 2018
698
632
Hi. Nice game. It looks very promising. Nice renders and, so far, the story is compelling.

BTW, like some people said, you shouldn´t force NTR in the game, specially since a lot of people hate it (I love NTR XD). So, to avoid some negative backlash, you can do the same that Power Vacuum did. Give 4-5 updates of this game and then release a "What if" with some NTR content.
i actually stopped supporting a game because they released a what if and have never touched that game again
 

Deleted member 4865569

Active Member
Apr 26, 2022
772
4,929
Hi. Nice game. It looks very promising. Nice renders and, so far, the story is compelling.

BTW, like some people said, you shouldn´t force NTR in the game, specially since a lot of people hate it (I love NTR XD). So, to avoid some negative backlash, you can do the same that Power Vacuum did. Give 4-5 updates of this game and then release a "What if" with some NTR content.
"what ifs" are a waste of time and resources. Also it takes time away from the main game and even if this is a non ntr VN, None ntr players will also not be happy with a "WHAT IFs" either knowing how their LIs are slutty or getting fucked by other people in "WHAT IFs"

Power Vacuum thread is a warzone, I stopped playing that one for that reason as well.

In my opinion, it's better for the dev to stick to one thing and one thing only imo.

less stress, and less work.
 

Lordsimmons

Newbie
Oct 23, 2021
90
82
Incest and NTR mix about as well as oil and water. Incest fetish is to bone your family, NTR is to let others bone your girls, which directly contradicts the Incest kink, and puts off everyone who cares about it. I won't tell you how to make your game, if you want to add any fetish, it's your decision, but it needs to gel well with the themes you're wishing to portray in your narrative, otherwise it'll feel tacked on and disingenuous, and obviously leave some people unhappy. Imo, it's better to stick to one theme (whichever it may be) and commit to it, that way you can tighten the focus of the plot/adult content, and players will know what they're getting into beforehand.

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Overall, albeit a bit short it's a great first episode. Wish you the best of luck in your endeavours, hope you find success,
GruBoop! :)(y)

jajaja, so true. In the end Incest and NTR are a bad mix for a lot of people. I like it, but only if there is 2 paths (NTR and Incest) so i can see the results of me n
i actually stopped supporting a game because they released a what if and have never touched that game again

jaja, really? I mean, is your money and all, but i never understood the "hate" towards NTR.
 

777Mike777

Member
May 15, 2017
139
178
renders look amazing keep up the good work im sure people will flood to support you :) Quick question is this gonna be a slow burn with the incest content?
 

Deleted member 4865569

Active Member
Apr 26, 2022
772
4,929
jajaja, so true. In the end Incest and NTR are a bad mix for a lot of people. I like it, but only if there is 2 paths (NTR and Incest) so i can see the results of me n



jaja, really? I mean, is your money and all, but i never understood the "hate" towards NTR.
People like what they like..

That's what it is..

Do you like scat?
Most likely not.

People like what they like and dislike what they dislike.

simple as that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ntrvip

Lordsimmons

Newbie
Oct 23, 2021
90
82
"what ifs" are a waste of time and resources. Also it takes time away from the main game and even if this is a non ntr VN, None ntr players will also not be happy with a "WHAT IFs" either knowing how their LIs are slutty or getting fucked by other people in "WHAT IFs"

Power Vacuum thread is a warzone, I stopped playing that one for that reason as well.

In my opinion, it's better for the dev to stick to one thing and one thing only imo.

less stress, and less work.
jajaja yes. Power Vacuum thread is so fun to read for that reason. Is like a post talking about politics.

In the end, you´re probably right. For the dev´s sake, he/she should avoid NTR.
 

ntrvip

Well-Known Member
Dec 15, 2020
1,918
2,745
you don't speak for everybody tho..

I do not touch VNs with optional NTR anymore do to the fact I like to have all content been catered to what I am paying for.

Not only that, it ruins characters knowing on the ntr path you getting cucked and everyone is getting a piece of her, and on the non ntr side you simping away trying to get one blow job.

Plus most of the time non ntr and the ntr crowd will be mad for not getting the most content they want..

one side will be mad because they not getting much content, and the same with the other.

All in all, it's just more work and headace for the devs.

most devs don't even know how to mask the NTR on the non ntr path and it ends in a coded mess where the ntr is bleeding to the none ntr path.

Not only that having to wait for longer updates to 2 having to make so many variables and paths when I would rather invest my time and money into something I get 100% on.

If you like ntr cool, but stop asking the dev to add something optional or not when he or her already said it will not be any ntr and move on to shit you enjoy.

have a good day.
,
I would have bought your theory here but there is wrong info, i actually played lot of games where NTR is optional and you have as much content on either optional paths. So no, not really a problem..but it is def a problem for "facepalmers" or NTR haters, lol.. If us will be facepalming all faithful porn games out there it would be a disaster but we not like that. We not haters in general, we just enjoy our stuff (in games only) as everyone should do.

I will only buy the waiting time on your approach but even like that not fully on cause waiting time if dev works on same question consequences for both paths everyone is happy.. so nah it's doable and only depends on what the dev in this case would like to do. If he don't add it at the end no biggie there is plenty of other games out there but would be great on a gorgeous looking game like this one.

*and little confession here I can ask dev to add NTR if i want to, as straight faithful charming guys like all the rest of facepalmers can ask the dev to not add it cause it will be a pain in the ass and he will not be true to himself and so on.. so yeah i can def ask i don't see why not. Thanks for your time tho

*and dev said he will make a poll to ask if NTR is a good idea even if he said no NTR planned.. so yeah again wrong ma boy

***correction by Why So Serious Bruh? dev did say later on that no poll will be done. All good there is more games out there***

Have good future faps ;)
 
Last edited:

Rofelmao0815

New Member
Apr 22, 2021
9
438
Hi there.

Here is a Walkthrough Mod

Mod Version: 0.6
Game Version: Ep. 5

Edited on 06.01.2024

I would love to update the mod for Season 2 but currently have no Idea what the different values are for or what they stand for. The values only have the name L, F, and P. All of them are not used for checks yet.

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
 
Last edited:

Lordsimmons

Newbie
Oct 23, 2021
90
82
People like what they like..

That's what it is..

Do you like scat?
Most likely not.

People like what they like and dislike what they dislike.

simple as that.

Is true, is like the saying: Opinions are like butts, everyone has their own xD

BTW, i asked because when i started playing this games (in 2018), i hated NTR but then i realize i hated it because i took the game too personally.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kingdomless

Deleted member 4865569

Active Member
Apr 26, 2022
772
4,929
,
I would have bought your theory here but there is wrong info, i actually played lot of games where NTR is optional and you have as much content on either optional paths. So no, not really a problem..but it is def a problem for "facepalmers" or NTR haters, lol.. If us will be facepalming all faithful porn games out there it would be a disaster but we not like that. We not haters in general, we just enjoy our stuff (in games only) as everyone should do.

I will only buy the waiting time on your approach but even like that not fully on cause waiting time if dev works on same question consequences for both paths everyone is happy.. so nah it's doable and only depends on what the dev in this case would like to do. If he don't add it at the end no biggie there is plenty of other games out there but would be great on a gorgeous looking game like this one.

*and little confession here I can ask dev to add NTR if i want to, as straight faithful charming guys like all the rest of facepalmers can ask the dev to not add it cause it will be a pain in the ass and he will not be true to himself and so on.. so yeah i can def ask i don't see why not. Thanks for your time tho

*and dev said he will make a poll to ask if NTR is a good idea even if he said no NTR planned.. so yeah again wrong ma boy

Have good future faps ;)
chrome_gAQYJABMfp.png IvID7RV.png
 

Badjourasmix

Conversation Conqueror
Sep 22, 2017
6,544
14,549
you don't speak for everybody tho..

I do not touch VNs with optional NTR anymore do to the fact I like to have all content been catered to what I am paying for.

Not only that, it ruins characters knowing on the ntr path you getting cucked and everyone is getting a piece of her, and on the non ntr side you simping away trying to get one blow job.

Plus most of the time non ntr and the ntr crowd will be mad for not getting the most content they want..

one side will be mad because they not getting much content, and the same with the other.

All in all, it's just more work and headace for the devs.

most devs don't even know how to mask the NTR on the non ntr path and it ends in a coded mess where the ntr is bleeding to the none ntr path.

Not only that having to wait for longer updates to 2 having to make so many variables and paths when I would rather invest my time and money into something I get 100% on.

If you like ntr cool, but stop asking the dev to add something optional or not when he or her already said it will not be any ntr and move on to shit you enjoy.

have a good day.
Optional NTR is not a big issue for me but I think for the most part you're correct. Pleasing everyone is impossible so if NTR is not the main focus of the game it's probably better to not add it. Most harem/vanilla players won't even give the game a try if they see the NTR tag so you just end making the game for mostly NTR fans. Look at power vacuum for example, the NTR in the game is not even canon and only happens in bad endings but the majority of the fans are NTR fans.
 

ntrvip

Well-Known Member
Dec 15, 2020
1,918
2,745
When a game adds the ntr tag on it even if its optional, the community that dislike ntr which is alot more will stay away from the game. Often times the netorare tag can mean the end of a game or it will stagnate. Plus the uppdates on games that have the none ntr and ntr path together are often garbage because the updates with the content in them are so small that they aren't worth playing, so you end up with both communities not wasting the time with it in the end, because you are forced to wait on a dev trying to please both paths.

Personally i ignore all games that have netorare even it is optional, feels just like a waste of time to waste money or time on a game like that.

Also i think this site should be more clear with the netorare tag and put in games when another person than the mc are boning the girls, but that just me
I respect that! Let's see what dev end up doing at the end..

But doing both paths and not enough content for both communities usually depends of how fast the dev want to go, and devs normally don't give all in 2 months cause they want the game to last.. so you will wait anyway and in my opinion unless we wait as we wait with AWAM (which is crazy amount of time and kinda milking it too much) i would be happy to wait on a gorgeous game like this one. If it was reverse story (let's say this game is NTR and faithful path optional i would not be pissed) everyone is happy that's what matters.

Also don't underestimate NTR community, we are also a lot even if less.. that's why lot of NTR games are more & more common
 
Last edited:
3.30 star(s) 40 Votes