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Why on earth would you be against having OPTIONS?






Ok seriously, Why is that such a deal breaker? Many people break up and change partners multiple times throughout their lives. Unless you come from some culture with banned divorces and arranged marriages at the age of 15, your are unlikely to be your partner's first and visa versa. Do you put "I date only virgins" on your Tinder profile? The player and the redhead are not in a relationship, so it is not any kind of "cheating" either. She is nobody to the player at the beginning of the game, so she can screw whoever she likes at that point.

Clearly the developer wants to tell a story about Ansel defeating his biggest rival COMPLETELY, which includes taking his girl from him. The impact would be far lesser if she was just some random henchwoman to the rival. The defeat lessened significantly.


The dev gave you guys an option to replace the girl, yet you still complain about it merely being an option. Geez.
i get the idea but was really necesary see a future li getting buttfucked and worse the first scene of this "harem" game like dude wtf i get some of my past girlfriends have sex before me but i dont want to see it yes the dev can present that the girl and the other guy are together whitout showing us her gettin buttfucked that makes it worse
maybe to you it isnt a big deal but if would be a black guy fucking the rival it would be bad arent ? for me is the same
 
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i get some of my past girlfriends have sex before me but i dont want to see it yes the dev can present that the girl and the other guy are together whitout showing us her gettin buttfucked that makes it worse
maybe to you it isnt a big deal but if would be a black guy fucking the rival it would be bad arent ? for me is the same
Thanks for elaborating. I have made a suggestion earlier that the 3 intro prompts could be replaced by 2x2 prompts and the scene pushed back, pending the 2nd prompt.
Prompt #1: Is it Lirien or not?
Prompt #2: Take a peek at them fucking or not.

That way you could also combine replacing Lirien with skipping the scene.
 
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Thanks for elaborating. I have made a suggestion earlier that the 3 intro prompts could be replaced by 2x2 prompts and the scene pushed back, pending the 2nd prompt.
Prompt #1: Is it Lirien or not?
Prompt #2: Take a peek at them fucking or not.

That way you could also combine replacing Lirien with skipping the scene.
a question are you the dev or one of the devs ?
yeah i have no problem whit the game now i would rather have the option to not to peek than skip the scene no all of us are into voyeurism i guess .
sorry if sound so negative before but i am tired of things like this whit how har nowdays of finding good harem games half of them have shit whit voyeurism lis having sex whit other guys and is always is the same thing she dont have a realtionship she have another boyfriend before etc yeah i get that not all the girls are gonna wait in line to MC to fuck them that would be dumb but we dont want to see her getting action whis his boyfriend , Boss , Lesbian friend etc i am really tired i just want one vanilla game i dont ask for much really T_T
 
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Ok seriously, Why is that such a deal breaker? Many people break up and change partners multiple times throughout their lives. Unless you come from some culture with banned divorces and arranged marriages at the age of 15, your are unlikely to be your partner's first and visa versa. Do you put "I date only virgins" on your Tinder profile? The player and the redhead are not in a relationship, so it is not any kind of "cheating" either. She is nobody to the player at the beginning of the game, so she can screw whoever she likes at that point.
Pues vale.

Clearly the developer wants to tell a story about Ansel defeating his biggest rival COMPLETELY, which includes taking his girl from him. The impact would be far lesser if she was just some random henchwoman to the rival - the defeat lessened significantly.
After reading your explanation, I'm going to continue choosing the option that the girl the antagonist is with is a stranger.

The dev gave you guys an option to replace the girl, yet you still complain about it merely being an option. Geez.
I don't know if you've noticed, but I'm just replying to a user who quoted one of my posts, explaining what happened so he can understand why there are options. If you don't like me doing this, I'm sorry, but I thought it was appropriate.

I haven't complained about the existence of any option, since the one I'm interested in exists, and the fact that there are others doesn't bother me.
 

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a question are you the dev or one of the devs ?
I refer to the dev in 3rd person:
The dev gave you guys an option to replace the girl
So clearly I am not the dev. I did subscribe to the dev's Patreon though, 'cause I like the original vision of the game and don't want it changed too much. We already have options and I don't want the option for the original vision gone.

That being said, since I am quite interested in this game, I have written a lot of feedback, some of which acts as further compromise to you guys. My 2x2 replacement for 1x3 proposal changes the scene from an "opt out" to "opt in" and allows you to both replace the character and not see the sex without explicitly choosing to peak through the window or a keyhole or whatever. I think such two prompts would finally satisfy everyone, but the dev seemingly wants to move past the intro already, so I'm not sure if they will be willing to further alter this scene.


how har nowdays of finding good harem games
i just want one vanilla game i dont ask for much really T_T
I'm not sure if harem is very vanilla either. :ROFLMAO:
But I get what you are trying to say.
 
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I don't know if you've noticed, but I'm just replying to a user who quoted one of my posts, explaining what happened so he can understand why there are options.
I should maybe make one post per reply, to make it clearer, rather than combining them all into one then.

I'm fairly certain that Nimbus Commando was aware that there were options, considering they literally said "Kind of stupid, there is even an option", which lead me to make my multi-post response. Like you say yourself, there are options, so I don't get why Nimbus Commando takes an issue with having options.

And my second response was just to the multiple posts about the extreme aversion to the opening scene, which I find a bit odd, considering many people have multiple partners in their lives. And this is faaaaaar from the only game where you see NPCs fuck.
 
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I should maybe make one post per reply, to make it clearer, rather than combining them all into one then.

I'm fairly certain that Nimbus Commando was aware that there were options, considering they literally said "Kind of stupid, there is even an option", which lead me to make my multi-post response. Like you say yourself, there are options, so I don't get why Nimbus Commando takes an issue with having options.

And my second response was just to the multiple posts about the extreme aversion to the opening scene, which I find a bit odd, considering many people have multiple partners in their lives. And this is faaaaaar from the only game where you see NPCs fuck.
Maybe I'm weird, but I don't spy on my potential girlfriends to see how they have sex with other guys. In fact, I prefer to know as little as possible about their previous sex lives.

On the other hand, this is a game, and one of the things I like is that, from the start of the game, the LIs only have sex with the MC and no one else (they may have had sex with others previously, or they may be virgins), and that they aren't sluts, porn stars, or prostitutes (neither now nor in the past).

If the people having sex are two strangers, or a guy we know with a girl we don't know (who in no case will be a LI), then I couldn't care less what they do. But I still don't want to watch it.
 

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Maybe I'm weird, but I don't spy on my potential girlfriends to see how they have sex with other guys. In fact, I prefer to know as little as possible about their previous sex lives.

On the other hand, this is a game, and one of the things I like is that, from the start of the game, the LIs only have sex with the MC and no one else (they may have had sex with others previously, or they may be virgins), and that they aren't sluts, porn stars, or prostitutes (neither now nor in the past).

If the people having sex are two strangers, or a guy we know with a girl we don't know (who in no case will be a LI), then I couldn't care less what they do. But I still don't want to watch it.
True my brother i dont get the obsesion nowdays of spying your future girlfriend fucking his current boyfriend WTF i also find funny the always you want virgins LIs like dude my favorite type of girls in this kind of games is the milfs obviusly to be a milf she had to had a son or daughter and obviusly she isnt virgin and thats okay np one thing is know a girl had oreviusly relationships and thats okay everyone has one but other different thing is spying on your crush want to your grifriend exolainnin detail while a flashback runs how tyrone and his friends gang bang her or seeing his past porn career or shit like this i dont want to see or heard that it isnt that difficult .
 
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Maybe I'm weird, but I don't spy on my potential girlfriends to see how they have sex with other guys. In fact, I prefer to know as little as possible about their previous sex lives.

On the other hand, this is a game, and one of the things I like is that, from the start of the game, the LIs only have sex with the MC and no one else (they may have had sex with others previously, or they may be virgins), and that they aren't sluts, porn stars, or prostitutes (neither now nor in the past).

If the people having sex are two strangers, or a guy we know with a girl we don't know (who in no case will be a LI), then I couldn't care less what they do. But I still don't want to watch it.
The point is that she is NOT a LI at the start. She IS a stranger. She will be a LI in the future, but Ansel doesn't know that. Only the player knows that, because of the dev logs and (later) as part of the opening prompts. It is not unusual in story telling for the audience to know more than the characters within.

Can you not separate Ansel - the character from yourself - the player/forum dweller? Can you not separate the character's knowledge from your knowledge? Because I think that is the root cause of this aversion.

Now that I think about it, that's probably why some people (talking generally here) dislike female protagonist NSFW games. They have this absolute need to insert themselves into the character and cannot look at the story as an observer / audience member.

i dont get the obsesion nowdays of spying your future girlfriend
Ansel does not have the power of foresight. She is just a stranger to him at that point in the game.



I thought the opening was perfect. A porn game that starts with a same of porn, rather than making us grind for an hour before we get any sign of the main course. We meet our rival, we see how incredibly successful he is an how he likes to rub his success into Ansel's face. That helps us - the audience, dislike the rival and makes us want to see Ansel beat his annoying rival.
 
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The point is that she is NOT a LI at the start. She IS a stranger. She will be a LI in the future, but Ansel doesn't know that. Only the player knows that, because of the dev logs and (later) as part of the opening prompts. It is not unusual in story telling for the audience to know more than the characters within.

Can you not separate Ansel - the character from yourself - the player/forum dweller? Can you not separate the character's knowledge from your knowledge? Because I think that is the root cause of this aversion.

Now that I think about it, that's probably why some people (talking generally here) dislike female protagonist NSFW games. They have this absolute need to insert themselves into the character and cannot look at the story as an observer / audience member.


Ansel does not have the power of foresight. She is just a stranger to him at that point in the game.



I thought the opening was perfect. A porn game that starts with a same of porn, rather than making us grind for an hour before we get any sign of the main course. We meet our rival, we see how incredibly successful he is an how he likes to rub his success into Ansel's face. That helps us - the audience, dislike the rival and makes us want to see Ansel beat his annoying rival.
But i like female protagonist games whent they are good and not corruption rape simulators
Also i dont know you but i am too old to be the little brother behind the bed to spy on your sister im not into voyeurism i guess i like to roleolay thou maybe thats kind of why i get to angry i guess
 

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But i like female protagonist games whent they are good and not corruption rape simulators
Also i dont know you but i am too old to be the little brother behind the bed to spy on your sister im not into voyeurism i guess i like to roleolay thou maybe thats kind of why i get to angry i guess
Well I guess it's a good thing there are options then. The only solution to everything.
 
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