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Her trauma has nothing to do with her behaviour aside from college times where she used Lacey to do what she couldn't do, when it wasn't enough she added more, over and over.
Covering it up as helping her heal.
Gangbangs are usually a great way to overcome childhood abuse.

Cheering for SA is not trauma behaviour, especially her trauma.

Read MC messages with Kelly, then line it up with how she didn't care to understand Lacey.

Lets not find excuses for monsters.
Even if we accept that any of this is created by her trauma, which is not, it cannot be a justification.
I just don't think M is any bigger a monster than L. Time will tell.
 
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There is so much misinformation in this, i am wondering where or how the AI got it’s data

My biggest takeaway from this is there is apparently a wiki that i don’t know about?!
I noticed... There is no devblog to speak of so I guess she hallucinated that up and some other things. There are some interesting yet known points mentioned confirming what some people guessed. I will reprompt better to stop her from doing that and run it again.
 

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I noticed... There is no devblog to speak of so I guess she hallucinated that up and some other things. There are some interesting yet known points mentioned confirming what some people guessed. I will reprompt better to stop her from doing that and run it again.
I did some tests myself, I have been proposed several characters, including her.

On my analysis the only connection was speech patterns.
Which is obviously as flimsy as it gets.

I just don't think there is enough info to understand who are TM and FV.

I did however asked several questions about the pimp ans the response were always pretty damning.
 
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There is...so...so...so much wrong with all this.....I can't even begin to start putting it into words and actually replying to each wrong point.

She is above HR in a large company? Rofl....Muscle jobs through without MC's input? Wtf has her job got to do with the MC?
In all text, she is used as definition 'V' or (VT for her thoughts), never FAV.
She wants all the girls? Yeah.,..ok.
Kelly idolizes Lacey? *coughs and splutters*....
How the hell does V know what's in Mia's purse? lol...Mia just happened to send a company wide email telling folk?
What has point 5 got to do with anything?
Mia isn't exploitive? hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

The only single thing in all of that mess that holds any weight...is from the actual patreondevlog. The rest is just Ai generated nonsense.
 
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There is...so...so...so much wrong with all this.....I can't even begin to start putting it into words and actually replying to each wrong point.

She is above HR in a large company? Rofl....Muscle jobs through without MC's input? Wtf has her job got to do with the MC?
In all text, she is used as definiotion 'V' or (VT for her thoughts), never FAV.
She wants all the girls? Yeah.,..ok.
Kelly idolizes Lacey? *coughs and splutters*....
How the hell does V know what's in Mia's purse? lol...Mia just happened to send a company wide email telling folk?
What has point 5 got to do with anything?
Mia isn't exploitive? hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

The only single thing in all of that mess that holds any weight...is from the actual patreondevlog. The rest is just Ai generated nonsense.
There is no patreon dev log from that date
 

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Question - I don't get on here much more than once a week and over 10 pages was too much to read other then skim

Is there a way to see your GG points and I guess love points

I know they don't mean much right now but I was just curious

BTW, a lot of good points and theories
 

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Question - I don't get on here much more than once a week and over 10 pages was too much to read other then skim

Is there a way to see your GG points and I guess love points

I know they don't mean much right now but I was just curious

BTW, a lot of good points and theories
Use URM. Drop into the game folder (as usual with any mod/script change etc).

ALT + M to bring it up.

Search for: good_guy then click 'remember' on the right. All the girls are NAME_love. Add those too. Then on left, click 'variables' (under search) and you'll see them all there so you can keep track. Each decision in the game, a small box will appear (top left by default). Click that and it will show you what flag is required for a choice, what variable or points it adds.

Really, use this tool for every single VN, very, very few it does not work with. Top right to save it so you don't need to do it all again once you close the VN.

If rather keep track yourself then fine. Thanks to DefiantFun's already done work in notepad, I'm converting it to a pretty pdf walkthrough as we speak while going through the game again (to try and confirm some shit). If want that I should have it posted here tomorrow if you rather use that to see all the variables and point increases/deductions.
 
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anongamer1983

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Question - I don't get on here much more than once a week and over 10 pages was too much to read other then skim

Is there a way to see your GG points and I guess love points

I know they don't mean much right now but I was just curious

BTW, a lot of good points and theories
As far as I remember, it also tells you what your current score is each time love or good guy points change, so there is no way without the tool, but the next time you get a choice that affects them, it should give you the updated score
 

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Not yet, messaged the Prof on Patreon and they said they plan on implementing it hopefully in the next update
Awesome, I knew from a comment that the professor was thinking about adding some QoL things since the game turned out to be bigger than planned, but it's nice to have some confirmation on what some of that is! Did the professor give any more specific information like that?
 

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Do we have any idea about what happened during those 3 weeks when she did the "late working"?

MC "Oh, when do you start your late schedule?"
L "..."
L "It starts tonight."
L "Is that okay?"
MC "Hey, if Veronica says this is important, then it is."
MC "She wouldn't make something up arbitrarily."
L "..."
L "No, Veronica's not like that."
MC "Are you okay?"
L "Um yeah."
L "Everything's good."
MC "Okay, if you're sure."
"I kiss Lacey and head out to work."
L "Please let this be worth it."
[...]
"The three weeks that changed everything between Lacey and I are a blur to me."
[...]
"The first week she stayed late three nights instead of two."
"She was apologetic, but I knew her and her team were working hard on this special project."
"I noticed by the end of the week that Lacey had started to grow distant."
"She complained of being tired and wouldn't say much."
"..."
".."
"."
"The second week was much worse."
"She worked late every night."
"Sometimes until close to midnight."
"There was a hollowness in her eyes when she came home."
"She barely looked at me."
"She barely spoke."
"Neither Mia nor Anna texted or called me."
"They weren't involved with the art department, so whatever was going on with them seemed to be unrelated."
"There are only a few moments with Lacey that are clear in my head."
"The first was Thursday night of the second week."
MC "Hey, there beautiful."
MC "I feel like I don't get to see you lately."
L "Yeah."
MC "You haven't really told me about how the project is going."
MC "Are you and your team hanging in there?"
L "..."
L "The work is exhausting."
L "I..."
MC "Are you alright?"
L "It's just..."
L "It's nothing."
L "You don't need to worry."
"Which of course means, I do need to worry."
"But I have no idea of what she's going through."
MC "Maybe you could talk to Veronica about taking a night off so you can rest?"
L "NO!"
L "Sorry, I mean, I can't."
MC "Okay."
MC "Is she driving you guys really hard?"
L "It's not that."
L "Veronica's great."
L "Look, I just don't have the strength to talk about this with you."
MC "I feel like I should be helping you or supporting you somehow."
MC "But I don't know what I can do."
MC "I know the creative process can be draining, but it seems like the work is overwhelming."
L "Well, you can't help okay."
L "There's nothing you can do, except let me get through this."
MC "Sure. Of course."
MC "How about a backrub?"
L "How about you just leave me alone?"
MC "I... I can do that."
MC "If you need anything, let me know."
L "I'm sorry. I..."
L "I'm going to bed."
"What scared me the most wasn't how she talked to me."
"It was that her breath smelled like sour whiskey."
"Lacey went into work the next day without saying anything to me."
"She also worked Saturday and Sunday."
"I was starting to get pissed at Veronica."
"The next vivid memory was Friday of the third and final week."
"I hadn't seen Lacey other than in short spurts for days."
"I decided I would bring her coffee and a bagel to try and cheer up her morning."
"I also hoped I would bump into Anna or Mia."
[Supply closet event with Jared]
And on Sunday, pool event with Jared and the nightclub market party.
 

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Do we have any idea about what happened during those 3 weeks when she did the "late working"?

MC "Oh, when do you start your late schedule?"
L "..."
L "It starts tonight."
L "Is that okay?"
MC "Hey, if Veronica says this is important, then it is."
MC "She wouldn't make something up arbitrarily."
L "..."
L "No, Veronica's not like that."
MC "Are you okay?"
L "Um yeah."
L "Everything's good."
MC "Okay, if you're sure."
"I kiss Lacey and head out to work."
L "Please let this be worth it."
[...]
"The three weeks that changed everything between Lacey and I are a blur to me."
[...]
"The first week she stayed late three nights instead of two."
"She was apologetic, but I knew her and her team were working hard on this special project."
"I noticed by the end of the week that Lacey had started to grow distant."
"She complained of being tired and wouldn't say much."
"..."
".."
"."
"The second week was much worse."
"She worked late every night."
"Sometimes until close to midnight."
"There was a hollowness in her eyes when she came home."
"She barely looked at me."
"She barely spoke."
"Neither Mia nor Anna texted or called me."
"They weren't involved with the art department, so whatever was going on with them seemed to be unrelated."
"There are only a few moments with Lacey that are clear in my head."
"The first was Thursday night of the second week."
MC "Hey, there beautiful."
MC "I feel like I don't get to see you lately."
L "Yeah."
MC "You haven't really told me about how the project is going."
MC "Are you and your team hanging in there?"
L "..."
L "The work is exhausting."
L "I..."
MC "Are you alright?"
L "It's just..."
L "It's nothing."
L "You don't need to worry."
"Which of course means, I do need to worry."
"But I have no idea of what she's going through."
MC "Maybe you could talk to Veronica about taking a night off so you can rest?"
L "NO!"
L "Sorry, I mean, I can't."
MC "Okay."
MC "Is she driving you guys really hard?"
L "It's not that."
L "Veronica's great."
L "Look, I just don't have the strength to talk about this with you."
MC "I feel like I should be helping you or supporting you somehow."
MC "But I don't know what I can do."
MC "I know the creative process can be draining, but it seems like the work is overwhelming."
L "Well, you can't help okay."
L "There's nothing you can do, except let me get through this."
MC "Sure. Of course."
MC "How about a backrub?"
L "How about you just leave me alone?"
MC "I... I can do that."
MC "If you need anything, let me know."
L "I'm sorry. I..."
L "I'm going to bed."
"What scared me the most wasn't how she talked to me."
"It was that her breath smelled like sour whiskey."
"Lacey went into work the next day without saying anything to me."
"She also worked Saturday and Sunday."
"I was starting to get pissed at Veronica."
"The next vivid memory was Friday of the third and final week."
"I hadn't seen Lacey other than in short spurts for days."
"I decided I would bring her coffee and a bagel to try and cheer up her morning."
"I also hoped I would bump into Anna or Mia."
[Supply closet event with Jared]
And on Sunday, pool event with Jared and the nightclub market party.
Updated timeline based on current information
Only what's in the timeline i posted above
 

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Do we have any idea about what happened during those 3 weeks when she did the "late working"?

MC "Oh, when do you start your late schedule?"
L "..."
L "It starts tonight."
L "Is that okay?"
MC "Hey, if Veronica says this is important, then it is."
MC "She wouldn't make something up arbitrarily."
L "..."
L "No, Veronica's not like that."
MC "Are you okay?"
L "Um yeah."
L "Everything's good."
MC "Okay, if you're sure."
"I kiss Lacey and head out to work."
L "Please let this be worth it."
[...]
"The three weeks that changed everything between Lacey and I are a blur to me."
[...]
"The first week she stayed late three nights instead of two."
"She was apologetic, but I knew her and her team were working hard on this special project."
"I noticed by the end of the week that Lacey had started to grow distant."
"She complained of being tired and wouldn't say much."
"..."
".."
"."
"The second week was much worse."
"She worked late every night."
"Sometimes until close to midnight."
"There was a hollowness in her eyes when she came home."
"She barely looked at me."
"She barely spoke."
"Neither Mia nor Anna texted or called me."
"They weren't involved with the art department, so whatever was going on with them seemed to be unrelated."
"There are only a few moments with Lacey that are clear in my head."
"The first was Thursday night of the second week."
MC "Hey, there beautiful."
MC "I feel like I don't get to see you lately."
L "Yeah."
MC "You haven't really told me about how the project is going."
MC "Are you and your team hanging in there?"
L "..."
L "The work is exhausting."
L "I..."
MC "Are you alright?"
L "It's just..."
L "It's nothing."
L "You don't need to worry."
"Which of course means, I do need to worry."
"But I have no idea of what she's going through."
MC "Maybe you could talk to Veronica about taking a night off so you can rest?"
L "NO!"
L "Sorry, I mean, I can't."
MC "Okay."
MC "Is she driving you guys really hard?"
L "It's not that."
L "Veronica's great."
L "Look, I just don't have the strength to talk about this with you."
MC "I feel like I should be helping you or supporting you somehow."
MC "But I don't know what I can do."
MC "I know the creative process can be draining, but it seems like the work is overwhelming."
L "Well, you can't help okay."
L "There's nothing you can do, except let me get through this."
MC "Sure. Of course."
MC "How about a backrub?"
L "How about you just leave me alone?"
MC "I... I can do that."
MC "If you need anything, let me know."
L "I'm sorry. I..."
L "I'm going to bed."
"What scared me the most wasn't how she talked to me."
"It was that her breath smelled like sour whiskey."
"Lacey went into work the next day without saying anything to me."
"She also worked Saturday and Sunday."
"I was starting to get pissed at Veronica."
"The next vivid memory was Friday of the third and final week."
"I hadn't seen Lacey other than in short spurts for days."
"I decided I would bring her coffee and a bagel to try and cheer up her morning."
"I also hoped I would bump into Anna or Mia."
[Supply closet event with Jared]
And on Sunday, pool event with Jared and the nightclub market party.
Well she was hanging out with Jared at clubs and such, trying to seduce him to give her the job, but mostly she done was dancing with him and near end talking with the strippers, she didn't do anything sexual really. But again bad decision making on how to get a better job.

She wasn't at work for sure as the mc surprised her one night with bringing pizza, but only Veronica was there and there was no work late night meetings like she lied.
 
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Well she was hanging out with Jared at clubs and such, trying to seduce him to give her the job, but mostly she done was dancing with him and near end talking with the strippers, she didn't do anything sexual really. But again bad decision making on how to get a better job.

She wasn't at work for sure as the mc surprised her one night with bringing pizza, but only Veronica was there and there was no work late night meetings like she lied.
And according to Lacey, on the very last day, Jared followed her into the bathroom and groped her breasts. She says she was 'stunned' for a moment, and snapped out of it when he tried to slide his hand down. She claims she turned around and slapped him at that point
 

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Yeah i've check it before asking but there is nothing regarding this part off the story on it ( except the marketting party)
Great work btw! It's really useful!
It's a complete unknown. The pimp says she did nothing but dance and talk to the strippers....for 120 hours....how would she even know anyway?

Make your own mind up what actually happened because the succubus sure as hell won't tell us.
 
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