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Ren'Py Love, Lust, and Rock 'n Roll [v1.7.1] [FlinPaltwell]

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rageju7618

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Hey, thank you so much!! ❤

I hear what you're saying. But there are two big reasons why I haven't really opted to care very much:

1. The game is meant to be replayed.
It's also meant to be reset. There's alternate dialogue if the band tour sex sequences are your first time with that person. When I release a patch two months later, do you remember what happened on your current run? I guess I'm saying I don't really mind forcing a re-run, even if you're skipping, so the flavor of your current run is fresh in your mind.
In a similar vein, I recommend actually playing through the game slowly now and then, even if it sounds tedious, as it's intended to immerse you in that innocent state of mind before ramping up to more. My favorite playthroughs are the ones I have the patience to take slowly.

Counterargument: It'd be great if players didn't have to do that, though. And I agree. But Point 2.

2. The game's design makes it hard to code it so it wouldn't break.
My VN has an issue that any traditional VN won't have: The order of most events are randomized.
Chapters and their events are initialized and shuffled at the beginning, so in order to avoid a patch breaking them, I'd need to either put in dummy versions of EVERY single event I ever plan to write ahead of time, or get messy with my code and start re-defining chapters in the middle of the game (ugh. Wasted, repeated code just to account for broken saves. Definitely not worth the accidental bugs that could cause).
And there are other ideas that can break the game too. New outfits, new characters, and anything else that requires a variable I didn't have the foresight to define.

So really, it comes down to me wanting the freedom to cleanly design the game as I go, without having to frontload every idea I'll ever have. I know that spending 3-5 minutes skipping for a new patch is annoying, but I guess I just deem that "worth it." If it makes you feel any better, I have to do it too lol.

I also think the game's only going to become about...50% longer at this point? As I approach the end, I can try to predict the remaining events (I recently wrote up a for what I have planned), but I don't want that to stop me if I get inspired on a new idea, either.
I'd love an easy solution for players but beyond the Unren console thing mentioned further above, I just don't see a clean way that's worth it.

Having said all of this, it still bears consideration! If I can come up with an idea that I think will work and be easy to implement, I'll do it. But I just can't promise anything. Sorry for the long post.
fyi the game slows down if the ascension bonus goes way high...... i tried it
 
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FlinPaltwell

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fyi the game slows down if the ascension bonus goes way high...... i tried it
Gosh, really? I tried getting it into the billions and couldn't get any lag at all.
Regardless, that's why there's a "Reset Ascension" button in the main menu, just in case.
 

FlinPaltwell

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any updates?
I've been working on the music, as well as revamping old imagery, but not much in regards to Stella's upcoming update yet. Julie's update burned me out more than expected (common theme), so I had to shift gears and work on whatever sounded the most fun for a while.

For example, I animated one of Kelly's still images yesterday, and applied it to Amy and Julie as well. Day/night versions of each of them constitute my latest Patreon post, but I'll post one here for the fun of it (lower res because of file size limitations).
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NewTricks

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This game is one of the most bewildering experiences I have had on this forum. I think there is a lot to learn from it. The art can be terrible. The story can be repetitive and nonsensical. The character models are terrifying. The MC is annoying. The GF is somebody you want to cheat on desperately with every member of her family even though she is as sweet as pumpkin pie. The relationship system is a brute force hack. The overall gaming system involving preventing suspicion is more like the vengeance of a Precolumbian trickster god. And the resulting game is... good? I'd give it 4 stars and I have no conception of why. It is entertaining, replayable, and just doggone fun. Can't wait for the next update.
 
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FlinPaltwell

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Version 1.4.3, "The Stella Update," Released!
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The mirror links need to be updated, but as always, you can find the download for free on Itch:
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This update adds a little chunk of story for our actual girlfriend, Stella! Unlike the last few updates, this sequence spans just one day and one night. There's also no luck involved; canonically speaking, this scene always happens, though you may skip it if you like.

Added a bunch of new imagery for this scene, nearly tripling Stella's current content (which is not saying much, I know). This includes the only sexual position in the game that isn't front-to-front, lol. It also includes Stella's first animation.

Also revamped Amy's first available sex scene, updating all imagery a bit. If you're lucky, you can view this the first time you study with her (which happens in Chapter 2).

Polished and updated various Kelly, Amy, and Julie imagery and animations randomly. Nothing too major, except Kelly and Amy's first-person missionary animations, which are now brought up to the same level as Julie's.

As usual, this will break all current saves once you reach Stella's event.
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I'm sorry this took so long, especially since it's a shorter story event than prior ones. Life happened, mixed with motivation problems because I don't get stoked about Stella's content so much. But I wanted to make her a proper sequence, so here it is.
I also got some work done behind the scenes that won't come into play until the sound update.

Next update, though, will introduce a new girl! She won't be nearly as big a character as our main cast, and the current plan is for her to be the only side character you can have sex with. But I'm looking forward to adding her into the mix!

Have fun!
 
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NewTricks

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I'm so happy to see this update! If ever there was a character that has gotten short shrift it was Stella, watching her boyfriend slam down on every female member of the trip except her. I hope they get to spend some quality time together and she doesn't mind that he is wearing her mom's perfume.
 
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Therod

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I have no intention of playing this because this is softcore, not hardcore.
 

ayy

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Dev, if you don't mind me prying - and you can obviously ignore this message, but I have to ask. Are you currently in a relationship?
 

Bloodguard

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Free the Nipple! ;)
Seems strange to lose a large part of your audience over something so random as covered nipples. :unsure:
Genitals I understand, they look terrible in most porn games anyway. Though showing no oral sex at all is a bit bizarre.
But Nipples? Really?
Got guts, I'll give you that. (y)
 

jetama

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Free the Nipple! ;)
Seems strange to lose a large part of your audience over something so random as covered nipples. :unsure:
Genitals I understand, they look terrible in most porn games anyway. Though showing no oral sex at all is a bit bizarre.
But Nipples? Really?
Got guts, I'll give you that. (y)
ngl the whole not showing genitalia or nipples part has kind of grown on me. i think it definitely adds to the games charm and allows more for my imagination to fill in the gaps.
 

ladguru

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Free the Nipple! ;)
Seems strange to lose a large part of your audience over something so random as covered nipples. :unsure:
Genitals I understand, they look terrible in most porn games anyway. Though showing no oral sex at all is a bit bizarre.
But Nipples? Really?
Got guts, I'll give you that. (y)
The soft core approach is fine. The whole game concept is interesting, let's see where it goes...
Nevertheless, hiding nipples is weird.
But missing nipples are outright creepy!
A single dot would be enough to ease my mind. Otherwise it looks like a mannequin or a botched surgery.
 

FlinPaltwell

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Free the Nipple! ;)
Seems strange to lose a large part of your audience over something so random as covered nipples. :unsure:
Genitals I understand, they look terrible in most porn games anyway. Though showing no oral sex at all is a bit bizarre.
But Nipples? Really?
Got guts, I'll give you that. (y)
You can check my comment near the top of page 10 to see my in-depth take on this. But I'll elaborate a bit more, because it's clearly my most controversial decision (which is really saying something for a roguelike, cheating, softcore, RNG-gated sex game with a bizarre art style, lol)

For what it's worth, like many things in this game, it's just an abstraction. I still consider everyone in-universe to have nipples. I've even considered writing about nipple-play and whatnot during the sex scenes like I do with the genitalia, but I'm concerned it'd be too jarring when you can actually see the region in question devoid of nipples (as opposed to the genitalia region, which is always hidden).

But adding high-quality nipples that don't bother me is a lot more work than you might think. Given that the abstraction of nipple-less boobs doesn't bother me for some reason, I just opted for this route.

Suffice to say, I'm just making this for myself, and I've deemed the effort to not be worth the minor amount of extra stimulation I'd get out of it. Sure, it's nice when the Patreon grows, and compliments are lovely, but I prioritize the fun I'm having making this above all else.

I'll attempt to add nipples in my next project because I'm going to be revamping my style a bit and the workflow I'm considering might make it easier...but no promises.
 
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