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Ren'Py Love, Lust, and Rock 'n Roll [v1.7.1] [FlinPaltwell]

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FlinPaltwell

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What a lovely update! Samantha is hot and I hope we hear from her in the future.

Here's two of my favorite moments:

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in the next frame in particular speaks to me.
And staying with the same theme, here's the next favorite pick of mine:
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And yes, making babies is a particular kink of mine, hopefully we see more talk of it even if it might not lead to anything in the end.

Hot scenes all around!
Hahaha, this is the part where I mention: I considered straight-up impregnating Samantha, having her expressly tell Flin that it's okay for him to do so, Greg would raise the baby and have no idea(!!), etc. And I might go back and retroactively do that.

...But I don't know what I'm going to do with Samantha yet. Current plan is for her not to show up again, but I left the phone number bit at the end intentionally open-ended in case I change my mind. One of few things where I'm particularly receptive to public opinion :ROFLMAO:

Oh, and somebody should definitely write a mod that allows replacing all mentions of 'Flin' and its variations with some other name so the rest of us can play out our rock-star fantasies better. Might even look into that myself.
As for the name, well, knowing the protagonist's specific name and being able to play around with it (name screaming, nicknames, etc.) is important to me while writing story/dialogue.

I've given some thought to how I could prompt the user for a name and have it auto-generate all the variants I would plausibly wanna use, while giving you the option to customize each variant if the auto-generation comes out weird, leaving "Flin" as the default, but...
I'll try to figure that out next game. Not personally gonna fuck with it on this one.
But you're free to pursue that if you like, of course. Thanks for the kind words!


Amy is just the best. She is the only one that would make sense for MC to break up with Stella for.

And yeah agree with above poster even if pregnancy never happens just hearing their thoughts on it is super fucking hot.
I really started pulling for Amy more while working on this update! Of the non-Stella heroines, she's gotten the least ero-content, and I'm seeking to gradually rectify that.

Feel like some of the scenes where Stella or boyfriend/husband calls mid sex were missed opportunities. Have them pick up the phone and keep at it (they did this in one scene where Julia was giving a handjob and it was sexy as fuuuu).
Ah yes, the "cheating sex while on the phone" trope. I'd like to make a similar teasing scene for both Amy and Kelly. Thought about doing that for this update, but decided to push it to another time. I'd also like Flin to return the favor.

I further considered having Kelly answer the phone when Eric called, and continuing the doggy-style bit with her talking to him, but...ehh. I don't generally love how that gets executed most the time ("Hahh, sorry, just exercising while talking to you, ohh fuck!!" :ROFLMAO:). I may do it another time, we'll see lol. I've got some ideas.

I know the cheating is out of love/lust not degradation but definitely keep up the "your so much hotter/better than your sister/daughter" type cheater talk its the best.
Thanks for saying this! I really like that stuff a lot, but admittedly felt a bit nervous getting more bold with that kind of dialogue.
 
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unravelghoul

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I keep getting crash because of

NameError: name 'textbox_top' is not defined

It seems that the game is still reading my previous saves even though I've deleted the previous version's folder, does anyone know if the game keeps a backup of saves somewhere that I have to delete as well?
 

opfela

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I keep getting crash because of

NameError: name 'textbox_top' is not defined

It seems that the game is still reading my previous saves even though I've deleted the previous version's folder, does anyone know if the game keeps a backup of saves somewhere that I have to delete as well?
Like pretty much all RenPy games they are in C:\Users\"Username"\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\"Game Name"
The names in the "" differ by user and game.

The only thing to look out for is that Love, Lust... is for me in a folder Test-14393204. And not like most of the other games, in a folder with their name.
I found it after creating a new save, and looking for the last modified folder.
 
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FlinPaltwell

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I keep getting crash because of

NameError: name 'textbox_top' is not defined

It seems that the game is still reading my previous saves even though I've deleted the previous version's folder, does anyone know if the game keeps a backup of saves somewhere that I have to delete as well?
As the above user said, check the folder they mentioned.

Lol, when I first made the game, I named it "Test" because I didn't want to raise any suspicions to my friends about the kinds of visual novels I was working on :ROFLMAO:
But apparently that folder carried over somehow. Bleh, oh well.
And then on my machine, inside the "Test" folder it's called "Highschool Rockstar" instead of LLRR, because that was the original name of the game. Dunno if that name somehow got out too.

Anyway, all that aside, you're telling me the game crashes when you so much as open it? Or when you go to start a new game? Deleting your save folder shouldn't be necessary, but let me know if that solves the problem.
 
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Allman

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so i have finally played the newest update and all i can say is: mate fucking gj

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the sex is not just there because it is a necessity because it is a porn game after all, but because the characters want to have sex,they are having second thoughts on their possible actions but they act up on their pure lust for one another, they are showing emotions during the sex and not just hump like brainless zombies

overall i just have say: this is really underrated and i hope you can continue with your great performance developing this gem

and always take your time and don´t rush things

quality over quantity, except you are working for disney ;)
 

FlinPaltwell

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overall i just have say: this is really underrated and i hope you can continue with your great performance developing this gem

and always take your time and don´t rush things

quality over quantity, except you are working for disney ;)
Pshh, Disney fuckin wishes :ROFLMAO:
Though fun fact: My very, very first attempt into any sort of visual erotica creation was editing human Babette from Beauty and the Beast (she's the sexy featherduster/maid). I tried to cut out as much of the background as I could and wanted to strip away most her outfit, but I was very new to this stuff so I played it kinda safe:
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I went frame-by-fucking-frame doing basically this to her one scene in the movie. Isn't that funny? lol

But hey, thanks for the acknowledgement on the ass grab, man! I talk a lot on my Patreon about how much a goddamn PAIN IN THE ASS the boob and ass grabs are, and how there's a reason you never see that shit in any of these other VNs that use 3D models.
And it's because getting skin to bulge out between the fingers is a COLOSSAL pain. But I can't live without that, so I'll do it anyway.
 

Allman

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And it's because getting skin to bulge out between the fingers is a COLOSSAL pain.
i have zero knowledge of developing a VN, but i believe you when you say that

i remembered just now, in thirsty for my guest is one scene where the mc is squeezing a breast and that was so well made that i couldn´t take my eyes off of that scene
but i feel like, if you do something like grabbing/squeezing the human body, it´s either perfectly made or you just don´t add it

i hope you do some more of those scenes in the future :love:
 
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hysepReC

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Finally, a netori game where the women's partners aren't douchebags/cheaters/neglectful, i fucking love it. The sex scenes are hot as fuck even though they don't show much and it makes me wonder why japanese games don't do it like this? It's way better than having blurred genitalia.
 

FlinPaltwell

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Finally, a netori game where the women's partners aren't douchebags/cheaters/neglectful, i fucking love it. The sex scenes are hot as fuck even though they don't show much and it makes me wonder why japanese games don't do it like this? It's way better than having blurred genitalia.
Eyy, thanks for the kind words! And thanks for putting the game in your tag! You can shorten it to "LLRR" if you ever feel the need to.

But gosh, you think blurred genitalia's worse than not showing it at all, huh? I've seen this sentiment recently, and it's surprised me a little. This might sound strange, but me personally, I rather like the "white glow" censoring you'll see in Korean manhwa or Japanese manga.
Stuff like this:
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And I'm considering this approach for my next game, but I'm worried I'll never hear the end of it if I do :ROFLMAO:. Censored games seem to hilariously get even more complaints than my game, at least around here.

But to answer your rhetorical question: Censoring lets you do a lot more. Blowjobs, full naked shots, "showing penetration" like above, more freedom with camera angles...none of these things are SUPER important to me, but it'd be nice if now-and-then I didn't need to be super creative with the camera angles. I'd like to see the moment of anticipation where an erect dick is ready to enter a vagina (without having to actually see either).
And when censoring doesn't bother you (it doesn't bother me, nor does it bother the majority of Japanese audiences as I understand it (which is why there isn't a lot of pushback on their censorship laws)), then it's no big deal.

It's an interesting topic to me.
 

Mistah_K

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Does anyone else's game crash when trying to reset ascension or did i just screw something up when installing?
 

FlinPaltwell

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Does anyone else's game crash when trying to reset ascension or did i just screw something up when installing?
FUCK.
I never tested that, fucking god fucking dammit, fuuuuck. It crashes for me too.

Wow.
Not only did I just fix the bug, but the bug fix I applied makes it so this update does NOT break saves immediately (you still wouldn't be able to view Samantha's event on old saves, but...)
 

FlinPaltwell

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Alright Mistah_K, this one's for you. Thanks for bringing it to my attention:
Update 1.4.8, Hotfix

Sorry guys, resetting ascension stats in 1.4.7 crashes the game because I'm a stupid dumbass piece of shit, so this fixes that.

- Fixed resetting ascension stats.
- Has the added benefit of not instantly crashing old saves anymore, except they'll still crash if they reach Samantha's update so whatever.

I don't want to report this update so close behind releasing my last update, so if you want it, you'll have to head over to Itch:
 

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Eyy, thanks for the kind words! And thanks for putting the game in your tag! You can shorten it to "LLRR" if you ever feel the need to.

But gosh, you think blurred genitalia's worse than not showing it at all, huh? I've seen this sentiment recently, and it's surprised me a little. This might sound strange, but me personally, I rather like the "white glow" censoring you'll see in Korean manhwa or Japanese manga.
Stuff like this:
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And I'm considering this approach for my next game, but I'm worried I'll never hear the end of it if I do :ROFLMAO:. Censored games seem to hilariously get even more complaints than my game, at least around here.

But to answer your rhetorical question: Censoring lets you do a lot more. Blowjobs, full naked shots, "showing penetration" like above, more freedom with camera angles...none of these things are SUPER important to me, but it'd be nice if now-and-then I didn't need to be super creative with the camera angles. I'd like to see the moment of anticipation where an erect dick is ready to enter a vagina (without having to actually see either).
And when censoring doesn't bother you (it doesn't bother me, nor does it bother the majority of Japanese audiences as I understand it (which is why there isn't a lot of pushback on their censorship laws)), then it's no big deal.

It's an interesting topic to me.
Your style works for me because it's not immediately obvious that you're trying to avoid showing genitalia. The "white glow" censorship is better than the mosaic you see in most japanese games but i still don't like it. Blowjob scenes are pointless to me if you're just going to censor the dick. A woman with a blurred dick in her mouth does not arouse me, it actually does the opposite.
 
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What sort of program or development tool are you using to create these sorts of visuals? Its like a mix of koikatsu and 3D, but refreshing for some reason. :)
 

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What sort of program or development tool are you using to create these sorts of visuals? Its like a mix of koikatsu and 3D, but refreshing for some reason. :)
Thanks! I'm using Blender :)
3D models cel-shaded to appear 2D, with occasional 2D work done in Gimp to touch things up or add certain elements. I discuss it more in-depth in this Patreon post, if you're interested (it's free to view):
 
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