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Mr.Heartbeat

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Real time 3D fully animated reboot :D

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so it is a full 3rd reboot, i gotta say i like the 3D model that you have done for minami but i will have to reserve my judgement for the rest of the cast until it has been released for public.

i can tell its going to be an excellent game

story and content wise, any changes do you have in mind if you don't mind me asking about it?

Will the genre be the same as second base?

How the game will be played? is like sandbox game or the same visual novel style as the second base?
 
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Andrealphus

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so it is a full 3rd reboot, i gotta say i like the 3D model that you have done for minami but i will have to reserve my judgement for the rest of the cast until it has been released for public.

i can tell its going to be an excellent game

story and content wise, any changes do you have in mind if you don't mind me asking about it?

Will the genre be the same as second base?

How the game will be played? is like sandbox game or the same visual novel style as the second base?
Genres and fetishes will stay the same, the game will be a top down sandbox life simulation but will revert to visual novel mode for dialogues :)

Will the VAs of the game return to voice the new one??
I surely hope so
 

Ir0n Ma1den

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Genres and fetishes will stay the same, the game will be a top down sandbox life simulation but will revert to visual novel mode for dialogues :)


I surely hope so
And how are you going to price the game, Im sure the move to 3rd will cost more money+ additional expanses if you ask the VA's to return?
 

Mr.Heartbeat

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Genres and fetishes will stay the same, the game will be a top down sandbox life simulation but will revert to visual novel mode for dialogues :)
Interesting, guess i can't wait to see the glorious 3D in visual novel mode

What engine are you using to develop the reboot? the 3D model seems good.

And final question how will the time progress? is it based on real time or after every action?
 

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And how are you going to price the game, Im sure the move to 3rd will cost more money+ additional expanses if you ask the VA's to return?
Yeah I might be forced to increase the price tag a bit :(
Interesting, guess i can't wait to see the glorious 3D in visual novel mode

What engine are you using to develop the reboot? the 3D model seems good.

And final question how will the time progress? is it based on real time or after every action?
- Unity
- A mix of both
 

Karminator

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The grind in this game is long ,

anyone know why palla isn't showing up at the pub? Her LP is 20 and I talked to her in the night club. The next encounter is supposed to be at pub to buy drinks.
 

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Yeah I might be forced to increase the price tag a bit :(

- Unity
- A mix of both
With that many characters and possible sex scenes it might be better in the long run to implement the animations in-game rather than pre-render them. Down the line, would allow you to implement other point of views, etc, while also saving massive amount of space.
 

Karminator

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The RNG is so bad, took me 12 attempts of reloading saves.

palla has to be the most annoying and unpredictable plot lines in this game,


But dam didn't know there was a way to turn her into a porn star, that's kida hilarious end for her arc i think
 
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Ir0n Ma1den

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Yeah I might be forced to increase the price tag a bit :(

- Unity
- A mix of both
Thats to be expected, 3rd is a lot more complex and time consuming then 2d. But I hope we will get the same writing quality as with second base.

So take your time, if I learned something from gaming in the last years, is that better to wait and get a good product then to rush and get a buggy mass. Prices are also rising everywhere with inflation, so I'm expecting a overall price rise everywhere including in the Adult gaming zone(you devs have to sustin yourselfs)

Though prices for GPUs and computer parts got cheaper. With Unreal 5 and similar engines I'm waiting to see how future Adult gaming will look with realistic engines like Unreal 5 and similar to it and VR. But I digrass.

The future of adult gaming looks bright, I believe with games like subverse and the fect that we milenials and gen Z are growing gamers, soon there will be enough adults for adult gaming to become more mainstream.

Just hope there won't be any lootboxes and other crap in those games.
 

gnadudu

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Oh, I respectfully disagree. Sam, Lexi, Cassidy would like a word with you about that but don't dare because there's an Emma behind the corner which will blow them all out of the water ;)
Emma isn't that bad, a bit grindy if you want vaginal sex with her, but there's no restriction in her story line which only allows you to progress her during specific months.
Personally my least favorite questline is probably Cassidy's, not being able to work (which is the main source of income) for some time, the need of the martial arts skill (which can only be learned in summer) and the waiting between her events are a bit of annoying... ^^ (She's not that bad with cheats on, but without she's a pain in the ass)
 

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Emma isn't that bad, a bit grindy if you want vaginal sex with her, but there's no restriction in her story line which only allows you to progress her during specific months.
Personally my least favorite questline is probably Cassidy's, not being able to work (which is the main source of income) for some time, the need of the martial arts skill (which can only be learned in summer) and the waiting between her events are a bit of annoying... ^^ (She's not that bad with cheats on, but without she's a pain in the ass)
For Martial Arts I recommend taking it in the beginning. Just too much else to do in summer, also since many of her events fire more or less automatically (you have to work to get money as you correctly state), timing can be an issue as well.

Emma doesn't have time relevant scenes that I remember, true. But to get her you need to be lucky. Which either is a trait wasted on only this one issue (don't care about the lottery stuff), the need for spring/summer and a bit of clover farming, or - if you chose "unlucky" as the otherwise least hurting negative trait or because you don't know about this - you need one birthday and one christmas to even start her arc.

Next you need to meet her at the correct time in Sam's storyline, where you also have to make specific choices.

And then before you even get to the sex grind, there's the issue of collecting lovepoints. The movie point is a gimme, granted. The Bree point already gets difficult - you need to have yurimanga'd her up, but not started the home harem and not collared her. The "no girlfriend" one however is really a pain in the ass, especially if you want to keep Cassidy as well. Either you get Emma this far before Cassidy's terror triggers, or you complete Cassidy's storyline, turn her from pet to girlfriend and then friendzone her - all this without having other girls "leveled up" which might mean avoiding certain places at certain times of the day.

So in the end IMO you need to focus more or less the whole run on getting her first. Granted, after that she isn't any obstacle to other stuff. But I just don't see that in a non cheat run. In an NG+ with enough cash to ignore work for a while and with both lucky and martial arts as traits it may be a different thing, but a clean run from the start I'd say she is the worst by far and you probably shouldn't bother if you're otherwise going Pokémon (gotta catch 'em all).
 

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For Martial Arts I recommend taking it in the beginning.
Martial Arts is only required for Cassidy's storyline (it can help in a few events if your fitness is not high enough, but it's not required anywhere else.) The problem here is if you don't have the skill at the right time, the game is over.
Also you can't learn Golf, Discreet (Sneaky) or Shooting (which are on the same page as MA during the intro) during the game (I know the first two aren't used anywhere yet, but I rather choose a skill which I can't get during the normal playthrough...)


Emma doesn't have time relevant scenes that I remember, true. But to get her you need to be lucky. Which either is a trait wasted on only this one issue (don't care about the lottery stuff), the need for spring/summer and a bit of clover farming, or - if you chose "unlucky" as the otherwise least hurting negative trait or because you don't know about this - you need one birthday and one christmas to even start her arc.
Hmm, there's also Lavish's Lucky Panties which give permanent +1 Luck and finding 4 leafed clovers can be save scummed... Also I think "Animals hate me" is probably the least hurting negative trait. (Only if you like to wander in the woods or swim on the beach during the night, it's bad)


Next you need to meet her at the correct time in Sam's storyline, where you also have to make specific choices.
Well for Cassidy you need to finish the investigation in one week or either you get fired or you accept to be her pet. (Of course some people probably like the second option, but it's kinda the same as with Emma...)


The Bree point already gets difficult - you need to have yurimanga'd her up, but not started the home harem and not collared her.
Bree needs to be "yurimanga'd" for the home harem as well, so no real loss here imo... Also you can delay having sex with Bree until after you've done the Emma storyline...

The "no girlfriend" one however is really a pain in the ass,
True. I didn't say Emma had an easy route.

especially if you want to keep Cassidy as well. Either you get Emma this far before Cassidy's terror triggers, or you complete Cassidy's storyline, turn her from pet to girlfriend and then friendzone her
That's another problem I have with Cassidy, she forces you into a sexual relationship and at the end of her storyline if her sub points aren't high enough she demands you to basically break up with the other girls (I know nothing happens there currently, but I guess this might lead to problems in the future...)

In an NG+ with enough cash to ignore work for a while and with both lucky and martial arts as traits it may be a different thing, but a clean run from the start I'd say she is the worst by far and you probably shouldn't bother if you're otherwise going Pokémon (gotta catch 'em all).
I agree it's easier to get her in a second playthrough with NG+, but it's not impossible to get her in the first run if you really need "to catch them all". Cassidy on the other hand depends on a skill, or you run into a game over (which could probably delayed by not taking the last call from Cherry until you get the skill), Emma just doesn't want to be your girlfriend if you fucked something up... (So yeah my winner for the worst route is Cassidy, but maybe I'm biased... ^^)
 

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Also you can't learn Golf, Discreet (Sneaky) or Shooting (which are on the same page as MA during the intro) during the game (I know the first two aren't used anywhere yet, but I rather choose a skill which I can't get during the normal playthrough...)
Usually I am completely d'accord of never spending points on things that can be gathered otherwise, just like in an RPG I won't choose "10% more XP" or "more ammo found" if it takes the place of an actual perk I could get. However, with the choices here - as of now - I am thinking differently. Exception that proves the rule.

Hmm, there's also Lavish's Lucky Panties which give permanent +1 Luck and finding 4 leafed clovers can be save scummed... Also I think "Animals hate me" is probably the least hurting negative trait. (Only if you like to wander in the woods or swim on the beach during the night, it's bad)
But the lucky panties are precisely what I was talking about. You need to get two presents from Lavish, so one birthday, one christmas. And god forbid you forgot meeting up with her on one of those days ...

Save scumming is a possibility but also annoying. Luckily you only ever need two clovers at max, so it is doable - but a soft season lock as well.

Well for Cassidy you need to finish the investigation in one week or either you get fired or you accept to be her pet. (Of course some people probably like the second option, but it's kinda the same as with Emma...)
Both have their positives (relative to the other only). Cassidy is forcing you to do stuff within one week, no avoiding it by not going to the living room on Saturdays or similar, which is bad, agreed. Then again, in her story you get a clear indication that now you have to act from the game itself. With the Sam/Emma timing there is nothing in the game telling you about the problems you'll be facing if you don't act now.

Bree needs to be "yurimanga'd" for the home harem as well, so no real loss here imo... Also you can delay having sex with Bree until after you've done the Emma storyline...
Yeah, but delaying other storylines intentionally to get Emma started is - for my tastes - taking away from the "running around and do what you want within reason" stuff. Granted, the "triple sex harem" (now "five day sex harem") is very close to that, too. Wanting to get Emma influences how you can interact with the other girls, which is one thing Cassidy doesn't do.

True. I didn't say Emma had an easy route.
Can say the same for Cassidy - she's also annoying, even more for the next point you mention.

That's another problem I have with Cassidy, she forces you into a sexual relationship and at the end of her storyline if her sub points aren't high enough she demands you to basically break up with the other girls (I know nothing happens there currently, but I guess this might lead to problems in the future...)
Yeah, that's just trouble waiting to happen.

I agree it's easier to get her in a second playthrough with NG+, but it's not impossible to get her in the first run if you really need "to catch them all". Cassidy on the other hand depends on a skill, or you run into a game over (which could probably delayed by not taking the last call from Cherry until you get the skill), Emma just doesn't want to be your girlfriend if you fucked something up... (So yeah my winner for the worst route is Cassidy, but maybe I'm biased... ^^)
The main issue with Cassidy for me is not so much that you can get a game over - but that (provided you work to earn money, which I consider a given) you cannot ignore her at all. Of course you can always go the route that kicks her out of the game after the investigation, but when you don't you're on a timer. And if you don't know MA yet and are in fall, you might not have a save left to go back to.

So yeah, she's putting up a fight, but I'll still prefer her to Emma. After having done her route once, I know what to expect and what to do. With Emma I am spending half my playtime on the Wiki :)

One we both forgot by the way would be Kleio. Getting a sports car in time (if you didn't choose it as a perk which I would never suggest) is quite a task, so she's easily gone, too, for the unprepared player.
 

markey

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Can you miss the practice date with Minami?
I have tried looking through older comments, but found no clear answer
 

MisterDuck

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the waiting between her events are a bit of annoying... ^^ (She's not that bad with cheats on, but without she's a pain in the ass)
Girls like Cassidy and Emma are the why I think NG+ plus exists. So you can start your next playthrought with all the perks and a gigachad since day 1.
Seriously, its some curious experience.

My first girl in my very first playthrought was Shiori, but that was because I didn't understood how anything worked.

Then, in my next replays with New Game + (and a full new start after my saves were deleted), the girl that the game itself uses as "tutorial" is Sasha (Not Bree, Bree is used as a introduction to dates, Sasha is the First Date for many players).

Then the challenge of the game is to how optimize all relationships, which is where the issues start tho, as Summer contains way too many events with just 8 days to be used for all of them.

Winter has other one, but it also can be annoying as it appears in what is pretty much a lategame girl (by the time you can jail Kylie, you would have pretty much spend a lot of time in-game).

Basically, I'd recommend doing a playthrought to test yourself and see how much can you go blind, you will get many girls gone and missed events. Then, marry a girl of your harem with a Marriage event and start again, this time with Gigachad Mike dominating everyone with minimal effort.

When I do that, my first girl to have sex with is Aletta, as the charm allows me to date her in the first or second week and have sex with her.
 
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