The current version available here is the Itch version that doesn't have the DLC characters. You'll have to wait for the Patreon version download link, that one has all the DLC content.
Ren'Py Love & Sex Second Base [v24.11.0b] [Andrealphus]
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I'm glad I read the comments before wasting time downloading this new version, I don't understand the point of uploading an incomplete version
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(a) Mom is already in game. Whether you count her as fitting your description, is up to you.Hmm Instead of Sister why not add Milf Mom betterLatin Milf Mom with big But and Big Breasts would be supper
Remove Sis add Milf Mom
(b) She won't be a LI according to statements from the dev
No, it is absolutely "doesn't want", as stated repeatedly. "Can't" may also be the case to a certain amount, but is irrelevant.
That may very well be the case. However, this is an English speaking forum, so if people talk about "Netorare", they should mean the English interpretation of it, not its Japanese origins. Otherwise we would need to question all words English borrowed from other languages while changing the meaning, which are a lot (nothing specific to English though, other languages do it just the same). And as a genre description in English, it means precisely that in common usage. And even with the meaning "taken off of" your interpretation seems wonky to me because to have something taken off of you, you first need to have it.
All that is however not really relevant at all, since for the purposes of this forum, the rules here define Netorare and that is how we should use it so that everybody in a thread speaks the same language, even if it would be imperfect in the "outside world". And this definition requires the acting part to be a love interest.
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Yes. However the way it is included may or may not be what you are looking for.
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Not sure if this was caused by the compressed version but the game gives you an error the moment you buy something in shop.
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What's curious about this is there are actually some dialogue lines in the code that suggests otherwise. Or perhaps he considered it and changed his mind?
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And maybe he will again. I have changed my views on what I like and don't like a couple of times over the decades on multiple issues. Or it was just meant as an awkward convo. Anyway, only thing we have to work on now are the statements by Andrealphus.
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Question: Why can Amy earn a ton of dom points/make you submissive, but the only way to advance the relationship with her is if you dominate her and make her submit? Is there plans to make her a domme in the future or is this character strictly meant to be "tamed"?
There is quite a few characters that seem like they can get negative KP and become dom, but it doesn't seem to happen save for like 3-ish characters? Also all of them hit a wall with there relationship if you let them continue to dom the MC, is there going to be any femdom content additions in the foreseeable future or is that content that exists in the game kind of it?
There is quite a few characters that seem like they can get negative KP and become dom, but it doesn't seem to happen save for like 3-ish characters? Also all of them hit a wall with there relationship if you let them continue to dom the MC, is there going to be any femdom content additions in the foreseeable future or is that content that exists in the game kind of it?
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The dev made a coding mistake in [v24.6.0a] with the shops resulting in game crash. here's a fix, just unpack into the root folder of your game.
If the dev is reading this, you accidentally swapped items and clerk vars on the shopping call.
If the dev is reading this, you accidentally swapped items and clerk vars on the shopping call.
Except in English that isn't the genre description, because the genre is a Japanese genre. They don't "redefine" the genre, they just don't know what it means and misattribute it, every Japanese NTR work is an NTR work in English too.
It's a common misconception, not a changed meaning.
And when discussing this site's tags, you would clarify that it's the tag and not the genre, because this site doesn't name its tags per the genres at all. They just use a common naming for the tags so people can get the gist of the content. And doesn't help that the definition and name of the tags change, we already had an NTR tag definition and name change a while back and we're getting a complete tag update in a bit too which will no doubt change it yet again.
They don't do that, and the people getting hit are stupidly keeping their work under the same names or linking to or from their Patreon, so their non-Patreon work can be legally attributed to work done under Patreon's funding which then violates the rules.
And if you don't break any rules and the outside work can't be legally attributed to you, then they cannot do anything about it unless you do something else they can cite as a violation to hit you with.
Just don't leave a trail that leads from A to B, or (in the case of descriptors) leaving it up to user input and defaulting to Patreon friendly ones, so you're in compliance with the rules and you're golden.
Game size is irrelevant. That doesn't magically make your game more or less of a violation of the rules. There's literally tens of dozens of large devs on Patreon using inputs and Lewdpatcher to add in things like loli, incest, bestiality, rape, mind control, etc. and none of them are at any risk whatsoever.
Meanwhile there's plenty of lazy devs who can't be asked to add the content but also don't want the backlash for refusing to do it outright, so they point to the big bad boogieman of Patreon/Steam and say they can't because Conte and Newell will personally break into their houses and smite them.
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I largely agree with what you've been saying but upon reflection, I do have a question as it relates to this definition. Does it still qualify if the MC ultimately doesn't end up losing to the bull? Like I believe Sasha was discussed, but what about characters like Aletta?
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I included the subscriber count to show that it wasnt just some small game that no one paid attention to/cared about, and it shows that even large games arent safe from crack downs. Also it literally got banned from patreon. Kingdom of Subversion, Lord Goblin, and Amity Park (under the patreon name GZone), and possibly others have also all been banned from the platform in the past few months. Yes many games have content that violates the rules and haven't been removed, but in no way does that mean "none of them are at any risk whatsoever" You seem like a guy who cares a lot about very specific definitions. So I'd hope you agree that this does in fact suggest some risk, and not none.
Losing to the bull isn't a qualifier, no. A lot of NTR stories end up with a happy ending. It's predicated on a situation where someone is taken away in a sense that establishes a sense of loss or jealousy in the person (or viewer, in certain cases). The person being 'taken' doesn't need to like it, either, that's a whole subgenre of NTR.
My point is that it's a non-starter for subscriber counts to matter. I never brought it up, and it's common sense to know it doesn't matter because Patreon doesn't play favorites with smut.
And no, it's literally zero risk. As in the actual meaning of zero, none, etc. If you get hit by Patreon that means you fucked up, they didn't break the rules just to get you. Patreon will not, nor cannot, touch you without any violations, and the violations have to be provably connected to your account.
Full stop.
If they can't provide an objective case of you breaking their rules, they're open to massive litigations for terminating or suspending your account.
There's no exceptions to how this works. The people who got hit and complained messed up, and the people citing fear of getting hit either don't know what they're talking about or are just using it as an excuse. Much, much larger creators are running around ignoring reports because Patreon can't do anything to stop them from bending the rules to their favor.
I am intimately aware of how this works on a personal level, I've had to deal with Patreon for years.
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