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Zuul

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I see where you are coming from however I would still disagree. Genres of a similar name in different languages do not have to have the same definitions. But I now better understand what you mean, thank you for the explanation, the point being that the whole NTR shebang isn't really a "genre" as such in the major western cultural understanding. I would argue that it is in this little corner of the world (and a few others), even if it doesn't make the big pages, but I guess now it really boils down to personal understandings.
NTR is a genre in English, and the English usage of the genre is exactly the same as the Japanese.

You're making a differential where none exists. Don't conflate people misunderstanding a genre with the meaning arbitrarily changing. It's a defined word with a defined usage. Full stop. Some people not knowing how it works doesn't change that.

It's getting a bit tedious to correct someone who's so confidently wrong about an objective subject, if I'm being honest. This isn't a matter of debate, I'm just correcting you, and you don't seem to get that this isn't a matter of perspective.
I am not 100% on this but IIRC, they only changed the name (from "NTR" to "Netorare", to avoid discussions about Netorase, Netori, and so forth) but kept the same definition.

As for the big tag update: I am really hoping for it but it feels like it has stalled for now.
The definition also changed.
 
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rd3123

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Hi. I need help. I don't know where and when to interact with Lexi after the event. I can't continue the story because of this. I didn't kill Danny - he ran away. Every attempt in different locations ends in failure. Thanks for the help
Wake up at least 3 days afterwards at 8:00 or later and answer your phone. Warning you either need maxxed strength or 50 strength and the martial arts skill to survive the encounter.
 

Cartageno

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NTR is a genre in English, and the English usage of the genre is exactly the same as the Japanese.

You're making a differential where none exists. Don't conflate people misunderstanding a genre with the meaning arbitrarily changing. It's a defined word with a defined usage. Full stop. Some people not knowing how it works doesn't change that.

It's getting a bit tedious to correct someone who's so confidently wrong about an objective subject, if I'm being honest. This isn't a matter of debate, I'm just correcting you, and you don't seem to get that this isn't a matter of perspective.
Oh, but it is. Any genre definition of any genre in any medium is a matter of perspective - and they change. If enough people start using a genre term wrongly, the general usage changes. I will grant you easily that you have way more knowledge about anything NTR and its history, however, you cannot say "this is the correct definition and everything else which is used in English is wrong" because genres aren't objective like that at all. And we had the point where we found that the English actual usage is not the same as the Japanese usage - where you claimed, certainly not without reason, that it is done wrongly, but it is done.
 

Tehemai

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We'll have to agree to disagree on that. The writing didn't come off that way at all to me, and is inconsistent with all the other ways it's written in the game.

And again, context for 'why' isn't relevant for NTR. And I don't label anything as NTR if you need to use conjecture to fulfill the requirements when there's no explicitly overtones.
It's not conjecture, it's merely implied. Akin to those popular NTR pictures where the girl half opens the door all sweaty and disheveled for her cuckold boyfriend. She doesn't need to confirm to him what's been happening behind the door. The contextual information already implies she was just having sex with someone else.

It would only be conjecture had she not just explicitly specified their intent was sex. From there her condition tells the player that her refusal to have sex was violently ignored, leaving her bruised and ashamed to look Mike in the eyes. She obviously didn't win the struggle, run away nor slip on a banana peel after agreeing to disagree with her bosses. So the implication being made in the scene is obviously rape. Just as had she came back with torn cum stained clothes, one would not just assume maybe clumsy ol' Shiori just having a freak accident at a sperm bank when the obvious implication is rape.

You also do see her strip against both their will. So even just there the situation boils down to a stronger man taking the woman of another weaker man and forcing her into sexual service. So unless you left the penetration requirement out by accident, it essentially already fits your provided definition before the implied rape incident.

I guess we do have to agree to disagree. Though I will say whereas I think the definition is accurate, I think this conversation demonstrates how the application can lack consistency between observers.
 
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MisterDuck

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Anyone knows how I can get Palla to become a porn actress? How I can get her fired from normal jobs 3 times?

I can get her pregnant if I choose that route, right?
 

Tehemai

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Anyone knows how I can get Palla to become a porn actress? How I can get her fired from normal jobs 3 times?

I can get her pregnant if I choose that route, right?
Yes but you can get her pregnant regardless if you increase her career points enough.

I haven't tested, but theoretically the way to get her fired is to place her in jobs who's difficulty level (see wiki) are not at least 10 points under her career level. I think this is impossible though with the first few jobs that are available to you. My guess is Spellbound and after Escape Collection are your best bet for getting her fired.
 
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Mcrk07

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For some reason, images of other rooms are way too zoomed, although not when I want to select rooms in house
 

Richo_gamerz

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It is possible or impossible for meet Camila when i already Taming Harem (Kylie & Ayescha)??
N how to get full version in android??
 
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