Ren'Py - Love & Sex Second Base [v24.4.0b] [Andrealphus]

One of the grinding game in this website.I spent hours to get one cgi.You gotta work for money,and you dont even have time to date any of the girls.Full of bugs aswell.Anyway,

Pro:
-Art and sex scene
Cons:
-Too grindy
-Walkthrough is really necessary
-Waste of energy and time only to get unsatisfying cgi
-Bad game design
-Full of bugs
-You cant get all the sex scene.You need to wait to get a chance.Daily and weekly.

Not recommend

Pros:

- Decent 2D art, but nothing amazing
- Fairly unique character designs
- Consistent updates, but mostly bug fixes

Cons:

- This game is probably the worst grindfest on the whole site. 90% of your time will be spent doing repetitive and mindless tasks that add little value to the game except for making it look like there is actual content
- Extremely buggy (even modders dropped this game recently)
- Story is almost nonexistent
- Sex scenes are basically just one cg each and feel unrewarding after all that grinding

Neutral:

- The game does support cheats, which wouldn't even be neccessary, if the game focused more on character interaction and story, instead of grinding stats.

Overall even with cheats the game is unejoyable to play. The devs should look at some other games that do a far better job at combining erotic content with character interactions and story. Instead so far they've only added more and more characters instead of listening to some of the valid criticism posted here. Kind of a shame, because this game has some potential, if there was some actual gameplay and willingness to improve. If you are looking for a rewarding and interesting erotic game experience, look elsewhere.

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Grindy but a great game. I wish there was a little bit more content apart from that fact every girl is quite interesting to interact. I really wonder who this game such a low score here. Believe me all, the score does not justify the game's quality.

A year ago and I would have given this 5* no doubt. But now? I'd say 3.5* is exactly what it deserves. Why do people play games, specifically an adult game on f95?

If your answer is to relax, DO NOT play this game.

If your answer is for the art and H-scenes, DO NOT play this game. Or you could, but you should just wait for the mod for that.

If your answer is for the story, plot, and moral lessons, I'd still NOT recommend this game. Don't get me wrong, the story telling, plot, and lessons here are still average, maybe even above average. BUT they can't save the game from its downsides and shortcomings.

If your answer is to torture yourself OR spend days trying to get everything done because you have OCD and want a sense of accomplishment, OR because you love working but your boss won't allow you to work overtime, OR if you LOVE grinding, THIS IS THE GAME FOR YOU!!!

Like seriously, I don't play this game to relax from a day of hard work and studies. I go on a day of hard work and study to relax from playing this game!

THE ONLY WAY, you can play this game and get any enjoyment out of it, is to use the cheat menu and follow the walkthrough, or ask in-depth questions on this thread. AND EVEN THEN, the grind is still torturous, and you MIGHT STILL NOT get every scenes you want because REASONS.

It also doesn't help that older saves are no longer compatible, and no full save is provided recently.

I USED TO love this game. I USED TO be able to play without cheat. I USED TO get excited and eager with updates... NOT ANYMORE. Now I just wait on Lain to update the mod and look at the H-scenes and be done with it.

this game is downgrading. It was promising no become average. Instead of continue the story, this game always looks different every time I download. For me it isn't refreshing, just demotivated. I prefer old version, for me it's clearer and better

Hello Andrealphus,
Love & Sex: Second Base [v20.1.3] is a great Game with a lot of opportunities for a lot of people. I like the Art, the conception of the game and the many girl there is. I hope you have great Ideas for the future and i had enjoy it a lot.
I had just one Question. Is it possible that you can consider the intox fetish a little bit more and make it easier to buy drugs. I had after 20h of playing just one time the possibility to buy drugs by a random guy so...
But after that it is overall a great game.
Thanks for your great work!

So this game interested me because of the amount of girls. There are a lot and with variety, petite, busty, shy, flirty etc. Some girls have easier patterns to follow and to find. Unfortunately you will find yourself interacting with a girl the exact same way, with the same conversations many many times until you cross your fingers it makes some progress at a certain point. Outside of some girl specific story scenes, there is little of interest in the dialog after your initial interaction. Some girls do not offer much of a story at all. Much art in the game is varying in quality. Both character models and sex scenes themselves are by the hand of different artists. Some characters offer more rewarding choices because they were drawn more sex options or interactions. Surprisingly, many characters can be impregnated with the corresponding changes in the art and sex scenes. I'll give it some points for that, but overall the art is a bit lacking and the inconsistency adds to the underwhelming feeling.

My suggestion is the only way to really make this game playable is with one cheat enabled (aka god mode). Otherwise you spend too much time basically eating, resting, showering, increasing your mood and so on... These are your character's "needs" which you must maintain above a certain threshold, only to make your character do stuff like go to work to pay rent. Yup, you can't even hold onto your money from a daily task like work. You can get promoted for better pay but not without a lot of work put in first. This will get in the way from making any progress with girls that are not related to work. But what if you don't make enough to pay rent? The two girl roommates you start with will hate your guts and you will lose points with them. Not a fun time. The gameplay is poor, the character depth is inconsistent but the art is passable. Just about average I think

Far too grindy for my tastes... I enabled cheats and even then it was still too grindy I only played as the female, I'm not a huge fan of the male protags also kissing sasha shows the man kissing her even when playing female... it just feels too barebones and boring I'd rather more time on story and less time on a dating sim grind

A good game, with a lot of interaction, the arts are nice, a more than correct number of girls.
Updates are frequent, and the content keeps growing.
The interface has even been improved.
The music, on the other hand, can be repetitive and annoying.

I don't understand his average score on this thread.

Congratulation to the developer
Even though the game is incomplete and imperfect, I'm still eager to open it and spend a couple of hours playing.
I've started playing on version 19.12.2 and quickly became in love with the story, the gameplay and the characters.
Especially how realistic and complex you've made some of the characters appear to be. They're all unique and free spirited, exactly what we would ask for an H game.
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to play this game for free, you deserve praise for what you've accomplished.

I'm no critic reviewer but I can tell this game is worth more than 3 and a half stars. It has a strong basis and many female options to romance. It's only downside is the Bree PC storyline is extremely lacking versus the male counterpart.

Great Game, i liked the style of art, it's very beautiful and the girls are pretty sexy. I have so much fun playing it, still don't finished the game but i will finish very soon, i can't wait to play the new version when the same be released. Fuck this 200 characters i just wan't to rate the game lol

Andrealphus is the best kind of dev. His game doesn’t try to beat around the bush, it’s a sex game first. There is only minor grinding compared to many other titles and what you see in the tags is what actually exists in game. Love & Sex is a quality game that I have come back to many times. Follow the walkthrough and good times await.

The game is really hard,u need to trial and error so many times to see the different scene plus no gallery so u cannot reply the scene but it's still good game, just very annoying and i added some view things just because they said i must write 200 character, so basically they want me to write an essay thank you very much

review v19.11.2f. Excelent. a lot of content, maybe some bugs, but funny game.

In my first game i go for sammantha, best girl for my taste, not cheat her and find end of her route incomplete (well was funny, waiting for more content)
Then I lied to sasha and tell her that she looks fine blonde, and cant change her hair colour ( i dont like her blonde, but for my error i cant change. Excellent.
In second and large gameplay. I go for the blonde roommate, cheat her with the black hair roommate and she leaves the house angry and can't see her nevermore. excellent.
Then i go for shiori, cheat her with palla and she break the relationship and cant date her anymore. Excellent.
Then i decide be an asshole, date palla, the yandere girl, sasha as a pet, cassidy and lexi. And palla tell me that she doesn`t want a relationship. Excellent.

so if you want a good girl you have, samantha, bree, lavish, shiori maybe (i think she want to be pregnant and steal your money) i dont play pregnant so i dont know how it work for each girl, for me is a bad ending but after play a time 20 hours maybe more, I have faith in history and bad endings. Shark was funny.
i have palla 100% love, 60% kink and i don't know how follow her stoy, but i want buy the expensive car, so i play and try (if the 200.000 car not change nothing i will hate developer, really) i take palla to dates, buy her clothes, but don't find how follow and unlock next event (i think it's not an easy game, some event have specifics requeriment and i hate play dating sims with guides or cheats, if you don`t want the grindiness don't play a dating sim or a SLG (simulation life game) i like jappanese games for the same, and this is a really good dating sim, maybe SLG, maybe not, i dont see bad ending apart the shark, and that some girl leaves or break with you. But yandere promises a lot, maybe murder affairs, maibe she kill you if your cheat her. this is the next update, so i dont know and i'm only speculating.

Well conclusions. now i consider that is a excellent game, missing content, yes, have bugs, yes, a little grindy, yes. (but for that you want a dating sim - SLG game) maybe before releases had little content, but know i consider have a decent gameplay a lot of content ( i want follow samantha route, in general developer leave-miss content for the good girls)

but this game really has the potential to be a masterpiece, the game shows the love of its developers and penalizes you for being an idiot.
I really love dating sims-SLG games, true love (1995) amagami series (not sex), shiraoka second chances, shool days (2008), cross chanel (2003), bible black, artificial academy 2, artificial girl 3, now AI girl and not to much more games comes to my mind that i enjoyed like this.
- SLG (simulation life game) you want money, work (coworkers routes)
- you want be a student- university (bree, yandere girl)
- you want be a good person (samantha route, maybe lavish, maybe bree)
- you want be an asshole, a lot of easy girls.
- you like BDSM, your boss or cassidy
-you want to play like a adult- samantha, palla
- you want a vanilla love story without cheat girls (samantha? shiori? maybe no one?)

How dating sim
- specific requeriment for each girl, yes, (clothes and stats i think)
- jealousy- yes
-pregnancy-abortion-consecuences- penalties, i don't know
- girls leave you for being a idiot, yes
-unlock places or story for buy specifics items or have specifics ranges, yes (beach, gym, guitar for sasha, maybe more i dont know)
if the more expensive item doesn`t nothing i will hate developer)
-diferent types of girls, yes ( i miss good girls, lovely story or happy romance)
-change clothes, not (collar slave, and piercing, but maybe some day. With cassidy i gift her sexy-cute swimbath and was the same, maybe some day change clothes, they try at leat, must be a lot of work i think)
they suggest hair changes (blonde sasha working, redhair samantha, maybe other)

- moral decisions, not really (maybe the church girl, maybe the cheater friend?) perhaps abortion decision, i don`t know

How H game.
- Not really a masterpiece, good art, yes;
- varied expressions, some girls yes, others not.
- items not working for all girl (good, but in developement i think) or i don`t reach the requeriment for use items with some girls, or for histoy propose. in this developer will know what they want, and after play i believe in their criterion.

I prefer anime style, i like the art, if you wan't a nukige, this is not you game. Read a Hentai manga or view some porn, this is a game, a h-dating sim, not too easy and that is good.

Finally, two things, i played summertime saga, 5 minutes, no more, i hate the font, letter size, text position, . this game have a nice font, readable, not annoying to the eye. (i even moded summertime saga font and unplayable for me), but have good reviews.

And the last thing. I think that this is a game that respects himself, i can view the love and dedication from developers to his game, and i think that the minimun that i can do is give them a serious and sincere review and encourage them to keep going good work because they are doing well.

Thats the perfect waifu game. Artwork is pretty nice. There are lot of girls and you can customize them by choices. Writing is good enough there are lot of text which is good because you can know the characters better that way. Only problem with the game is the balance which is the main cause feel the game grindy. I guess thats a well known problem because there is an option to cheating by writing a code after that appear a console to gain stat. I only used this when content starts lacking after 2 weeks and I wanted reach a few more so there are lot of content.

As of v19: I can not recommend playing it.

This is one of those projects that keep sinking because of the human factor.
The game had, and still has potential, but it's wasted by a clueless developer who seems to be so full of himself.
Cheating is I'd say mandatory, playing without it is akin to masochism, don't try it.



The story is almost nonexistent, it's a bare-bones dating sim where the greatest 'developments' are tied to whoever you're chasing at the time. So instead of a proper "story" with a beginning/middle/ending, you get a sandbox stats grinder and manager game in which you get to court one OR more of the 151 Pokémon girls, of which a couple are actually quite good with decent amount of content, while others have a story you could sum up in 10 words or less, which, along with the grinding, makes the game an expansive but shallow puddle not really worth paddling through. And while characters have their own little stories, there's no overarching plot, which may be good or bad depending on your perspective.



The gameplay is a Korean grindfest, where you have to keep making money to pay rent and have access to over half the game, but you also have to spend a number of hours each week doing chores, you have to worry about strength, intelligence, charisma, you'll have to keep your chosen Pokémon happy by repetitive one-liner conversations and such, increase their obedience and kink values, and in the meanwhile you'll have to juggle with fluctuating stats like energy, hunger, hygiene and fun which are crucial for certain events and if you're unlucky, and you will be, then you'll not meet the requirements for certain events and you'll miss them.
This grind will eat up well over 90% of your game time, and only then can you think about making actual progress with the girls.
But don't worry, this is fully intentional as "the grind dont need fixing it is exactly how I want it" -or so the dev said so it must be true, don't expect him "fixing" what "isn't broken".

What makes game-play even less bearable are random events, fixed events, conditional events and multiple of said events on the same date, which simply eat up your whole day without warning, without giving you a choice, possibly forcing you to miss events as a result, and making it essentially impossible to actually plan ahead. You will miss scenes and deadlines because of it, and there will be...unfortunate consequences.

Porn, sex, the major reward system of the game, simply does not happen by accident. Aside from a limited number of scenes which are tied directly to the story of specific girls, you'll have to go on repetitive dates (which of course take money, time and stats) to be able to get down to business.
Now if you think once you conquer a girl you can just call her and have some fun between two consenting adults in the maintenance closet,
then you're very wrong.
You'll have to grind through the boring date every time you want some action. These dates and (unless you botched the date) the consequent sex scenes you can repeat as much as you want but you'll likely get bored fairly soon and move on to the "next project" as there's almost no difference between these scenes, they're repetitive.

Threesomes and foursomes aren't really a thing either, though that may change. Eventually.
There's some content for them, directly tied to stories of course, which are nice indeed, however that also means you can't just pick and mix up the participants the way you want it, you'll have to wait for development and hope it's what you want, and even then, who knows when that'll be. Currently there are only a couple of threesome possibilities with a few scenes each.

On top of it all, many of your achievements -the scenes- are simply not repeatable, and there's no gallery where you could re-live certain events -the better, longer, more interesting ones that happen to be tied to the story of a girl are almost always non-repeatable.

So TL;DR porn is still lacking and it's tied to hoops you'll have to jump through every time.



Characters - one of the redeeming qualities of the game is the character and story of a selected few of them, those which in fact received proper development, and are actually fun to explore. Problems are the difficulty advancing through their stories, the grind required, and the amount of actual content you're rewarded with. And there's only about 5 out of 15 or so worth exploring. The personalities of the rest vary but mostly fall into an archetype, some of them have their moments but due to the lack of development, there are multiple who are just outright repulsive with little to no redeeming qualities aside from a pair of boobies.



Art is OK. It's very fitting and charming for some characters and scenes, for others it's not so much.
Style isn't exactly consistent, although it's close enough. Quality is varying, and animations aren't a thing so count only on a limited number of still images. They tend to get the job done, however.



Kinks: This game does cater to certain kinks like pregnancy (WIP), piercings (WIP), (unofficial) enslavement (WIP), cheating (like lots of cheating, on your part in case you worry about NTR), and possibly a harem in the far, far future,
and it doesn't cater to certain other kinks like public sex, rape, (willing or forced) prostitution, NTR, water sports/scat, 18- , GILF and other such extremeties.
I think that's worth noting.
(WIP = Work In Progress)


Development was fairly slow from the get-go but it was bearable, but then it changed direction. Quantity over quality.
Development speed has significantly slowed down due to the introduction of more and more new characters, it's now way too many characters to develop in a timely fashion and you can bet your ass there's more to come (like 151 maybe?), and that means development for characters will be at a standstill for many months at a time, and some will remain spoon-deep with bare-bones content (or no content at all) for the unforeseeable future.
Which is a problem when the best part of the game is not the size of the cast, but the quality time you can (not) have with them.
And then it got worse. Because why not, let's fuck shit up.
Later what is essentially a separate, second game was introduced, the "female path", with its own events and characters, which further halved development speed, reaching the current golden standard of a crippled snail.

Now, don't think I have anything against a female path. If that was the original, I'd say the same about the "male path".
I'm sure some people would only play the game because of this, and if the development had a good pace and the team working on the game could be expanded to keep up that pace, I'd be all for it.
But that is not so.
Spreading resources so thin was a terrible fucking idea which result in even slower development for both "halves" of the game. Keeping focus on one path until completion would've been the wise choice, but that didn't happen.
These issues have been brought up a few times but no real changes were made because I guess if you bury your head deep enough in the sand like an ostrich, problems just go away and everything's gonna be dandy.



Overall, I so wanted to love it.
It had potential. Still has, but that'd need a 180° turn, and at this point, it's highly unlikely.
It's fucked without a proper direction, and it lost it somewhere during its 3 years of development. Perhaps the initial success went to his head, I don't know, but the dev looks properly clueless now, lacking even the integrity to admit wrong decisions and learn from them.
But so long the money's good, right?
There are way too many downsides and its limited number of redeeming qualities (which you're likely going to enjoy if you decide to play), well, they just aren't nearly enough to make up for all the shit. And it doesn't look like it's getting better -on the contrary, it looks like it just keeps getting worse as time goes by.
But that's just what happens when you keep moving in the wrong direction.

I've waited 2 years to write this review, it's a real pity this is all it amounts to:
Not worth it.

Really enjoyable game, underrated with 3 stars. Yet you should be able to do things with the ladies you beside kissing. Sasha at night doesn't progress when you watch her. Also it's a shame you can only once do something with the pretty blonde from the bakery.

Five stars - Multitude of characters, the routes are well thought out, the art is amazing and the game itself is really fun. Suits what I like and options for what I dislike are there but not forced. Compared to other games, they aint got nothing on this one, it tends to come down to whether or not your interest lie in the game, and for this one, it covers a wide range of those

Great art - i love it - but the gameplay is like... "meeeh"
It's kinda boring, repetitive, and has very, veeeery annoying things, which are... doing chores, washing etc.
The game is quite realistic, but on the other hand - realism ruins the fun (for me of course - you can feel different about it.
Good thing, that it has built in cheat engine, so you can speed things up a little bit ;p

For me - it's a one time gameplay - i don't think i'll come back to this in the future, but give it a try, maybe you'll like it - it's not a bad game after all ;p