errte13

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I've just restarted playing the game since I bought it on steam, but apparently there's a bit of drama going on? What's happening to the development of the game? Is it patreon/payment processing company that once again twist the arms of artists/developers?
 
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divingmedic

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I've just restarted playing the game since I bought it on steam, but apparently there's a bit of drama going on? What's happening to the development of the game? Is it patreon/payment processing company that once again twist the arms of artists/developers?
Very much so. Patreon are the new Puritans.
 

burned01

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Be aware there is now a publicly released 24.7.0d.

Changelog:

24.7.0d:
Feature:
- Breemc victor birthday date [1ev]
- Dialogue self-voicing
- Lose lp/kp after 1 week
- Self-voicing to phonecall
Fix:
- Birthday dates characters placement
- Date angela beach
- Date skip_nightclub once more
- Halloween interactions
- Hanna repay delay
- Hide map activities during events
- Lose lp/kp week above easy difficulty
- Random music always on
- Sasha referring to events that did not happen in her texts
 

Tehemai

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If we take the timeline into account however, Minami wasn't that far developed back in the day as she is now either. I think we only had some early date like experiences which still could be stopped.

And I still don't see your "Occam's Razor" point because, assuming it is not what he wants, who would this "small PR lie" be directed at? The players/customers? They want Angela, if he doesn't deliver then why take the blame himself and not blame the mighty company - wouldn't him being unable to deliver instead of not wanting to deliver give him a better standing with them? Patreon? They would not care about some brown nosing on page 789 of some pirating forum or even on Twitter. I still don't see anything to gain for Andrealphus by saying "it's my personal decision". That's precisesly the "unsolicited unexplained unpopular change of heart" you say he wants to avoid with this.
PR stands for public relations so yes of course the players. It's far worse to admit you neutered your project and cut out a planned fan favorite character for patreon than it is to simply say that it's not part of your vision for the game. People would not simply blame Patreon if it was the former, they would in fact more strongly pressure him for at least the common workarounds. Whereas artistic vision there isn't really anything to be done.

And minami is listed as one of the few demo characters and is of those that has more substantial VA work, she was obviously one of the first conceived and far enough along to where you can't just delete her or even significantly alter her without issues. It's not comparable, there's obviously too much public to put that genie back in the bottle.

Mind you, we are the ones that needed to snoop out the fact that he had a change of hearts. The idea that he's been perfectly forthright is already not on the table. It's largely just the true intent behind the obfuscation that is being discussed.
 
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Is it still listed as available in the story tracker? If so then you should do what it says there, if not then you'll have to reload an earlier save. Make sure to click the spoilers button so when you hover over it in the tracker, itll say exactly what to do. I believe you can talk to Sam to schedule a new meeting with the two of them. It would be one of the topics you can talk to her about, and not from the asking on a date option.
 
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I've just restarted playing the game since I bought it on steam, but apparently there's a bit of drama going on? What's happening to the development of the game? Is it patreon/payment processing company that once again twist the arms of artists/developers?
A lot of the drama here is more about the dev/the development of the game as opposed to the game itself. Mainly just differing opinions on how its monetized and if certain things should of been included and why they weren't.
 

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PR stands for public relations so yes of course the players. It's far worse to admit you neutered your project and cut out a planned fan favorite character for patreon than it is to simply say that it's not part of your vision for the game. People would not simply blame Patreon if it was the former, they would in fact more strongly pressure him for at least the common workarounds. Whereas artistic vision there isn't really anything to be done.
I am not sure about that though. There are many games out here where it was made clear from day 1 that "X is not going to happen because my decision" or "this game will be developed in Y way" and people drone on and on - often in cases of incest like here. On the other hand it should be well known by now that most of the "common workarounds" just don't work that well. E. g. Subscribestar is not just "Patreon but with less restrictions", most of all it is way smaller in will generate way less revenue, never mind regular reports of payment problems. The common "Oh, no, my game doesn't contain incest, that's just some random fan patch" is also fooling nobody when push comes to shove, especially when platforms do have a certain leeway in cases of doubt which you will not realistically be able to challenge. So I would say "blame the other guy" is in doubt the better option in most cases. Of course the best course of action is telling it like it is to avoid inconsistencies.
 
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Can anyone help me? during my run, in gaming harem I stopped at this point. the spoiler tell me kat must be in the gaming harem, and I remember giving a positive answer to kat's interested in bree. I wonder if I didn't something or it's a bug in the version, and it can only be fixed with the command (if via command can someone give me the correct command?) 1000463544.png
 

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Can anyone help me? during my run, in gaming harem I stopped at this point. the spoiler tell me kat must be in the gaming harem, and I remember giving a positive answer to kat's interested in bree. I wonder if I didn't something or it's a bug in the version, and it can only be fixed with the command (if via command can someone give me the correct command?) View attachment 3907100
You probably need to get Kat's lesbianism up to 45-55 and kp 25 for it to activate after the date. It's the same criteria for most of the harems to safely start.
 
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