Ren'Py - Love & Sex Second Base [v25.11.0a] [Andrealphus]

Love and Sex: Second Base v22.4.0d

This game used to be one of the best. A lovable cast, simple enough systems to get each event and the in-game guide was sufficient enough to get you there.

Now? Better have a second monitor with the wiki open or you'll unintentionally lock yourself out of something you won't know about until hours later. The game has become needlessly complicated for such a simple concept. All you need to do is look at how to get Emma to see exactly the problem with the game in its current state

Oh, and don't worry about your saves. Each update slows them down more and more so you'll eventually have to restart and go through the grind again. And there is a grind, even with cheats.

The art, while inconsistent at times, is likable. Morgan is my favorite. Some of the changes like Kleio's redraw are questionable, but it's a subjective change that you may or may not like.

The biggest hurdle this game has is bugs. As mentioned before, this game gets SLOW. I have a good PC, it's not my hardware. but this game can have moments where it'll take three full seconds of waiting before whatever you click gets registered. That's if you're lucky and the option you clicked actually opens up like it's supposed to. Some events are straight up bugged and it takes a long time for them to be fixed.

The dev(s) do update consistently, which is nice but they seriously need to chill with adding content and spend some time doing some well needed maintenance behind the scenes.

I can't say anything about the voice work since I play with the game volume off.

I really want to keep liking this game but as the time goes on, it gets harder to justify the headache while having to slog through the wiki to make sure I didn't cancel two LI storylines with a simple date.

The game has dissapointed me in many days which i regret the time i have spent so I could have written this review. And none of these points of my dissapointment is about the graphics and such but rather the entire game premise, mechanics and actual gameplay.

Firstly the stats are buggy and the 15 improved maxed stats doesn't even work and dealing with your needs is a constant frustration as it actually blocks story related quest scenes and even make you fail a date cause your spesific need is 1 point lower than it should be.

The spesific requirements for relationship progression is tedious and makes it feel less like a sandbox simulation and more like mini visual novel stories like a galery player. Even though maybe it might get much more flexible late game, the path to it just makes is not worth the effort and time wasted in the game.

Although a life sim, not much personalization is there like the most basic skin and hair colors or like other physical properties.

Rising stats is a ver important part of the game but also the cost and the need of money via work doesn't go hand hin hand much slower one other down but also stats rising after a while has no purpose as in it caps at 100.

The fact that you have to wait alot just makes it really boring like have to wait for a week for an event or couple hours for a person.

Overal just too tedious and time wasting to actually have a good time.

The game would be 80-90% percent shorter if there was just events you play, it is that tedious indeed.

Version 22.4.0

I am very torn on this game.
Positive:
Varied, voiced, cute, likable LIs

Negative:
If you don't play with a walkthrough, you will experience NTR. Strictly speaking it's avoidable, but not if you play without direction like a speedrunner. Oh yeah, the game also doesn't tell you how to avoid it.

If you choose the "I don't want it" options, you will not see the images but still get detailed descriptions of how you are getting cucked.
So don't play if you can't tolerate that.
Also, it's totally cool to bang one roommate and as many other women as you want, but as soon as you bang both roommates they immediately know and leave.
Also there is a route where your main love interest gets straight up murderd.

Soo... it's all very cute and lovable until it suddenly and often unpredictably isn't, and that's based on choices you made many hours of playtime in the past.

As a lesser sidenote, UX is atrocious. The navigation is tons of clicking and each time the game lags noticably. And some dialogue lines are extremely unimmersive, especially the "compliments" the MC makes.

I would give this 4.5 stars if only there was an easy mode switch that took out all the NTR and bad ends.

Great game, with a lot of content and stuff to do with them.

A bit grindy and obtuse? Maybe, but nothing compare to an old school ponit and click. You can esaly block harems or Characters if you don't know what are you doing, a price to pay as a consecuence of you choices meaning something in the game, I block the home harem in the first play and the sister route in the second.

The two 2D is good as for the dating sim and the sandbox elements are amazing. You have a lot to do with a lot of characters. Its more a dating sim with porn elements than fap festival with date elements

I couldn't support as a patreon right now but I pay for the game in Steam as a contribution

To much grind, the ridicoulous requirement at the end of the date to acept the invitation of a girl is just so goddamn stupid that I recommend using a cheat.

If 7 out of 10 stamina isn´t enough to accept it then wtf

Not sure why this game can be rated anything lower than 5 stars, but go figure. This game is what a real free world, consequential choices, PORN game should be. With all kinds of fetishes and even pregnancy, you can't really go wrong. At least try it.

Pros:

- unique graphics
- immersive storyline for every girl, each has her own distinct personality
- consequential choices
- a variety of kinks and fetishes

Cons:

- unavoidable ntr + ntr in general ntr is avoidable, but takes some getting used to (read the wiki!)
- graphics can look a little odd at times (mainly the characters)
- hoping for more interactions between girls and more content in the future

Summary: A must try. I'll be supporting the creator's patreon come next patch if this game doesn't get abandoned. Cheers!

I've tried really hard to like this game, I like sandbox games, I like building harems, I like interesting, we'll written characters.

Why not?

The two big issues are it's very, very grindy - which gets boring fast. And if you're working towards a particular route, it's far too easy for that route to get blocked (characters getting removed from the game, etc). And when that happens, you're back in the pain of the grind. This is because relatively small seeming things can have big, often inescapable impacts much later in the game - with no warning or sense it's about to happen. So despite being to be a sandbox, it has some really big linear elements that ruin later parts of the game.

It has other negatives - navigation is terrible, multiple clicks to get where you're going is nice to start with but gets painful with the grind; to really progress, you need the wiki rather that it being even remotely intuitive.

The positives - the characters are interesting, I like the artwork, and the game is generally well executed. The basic mechanics are interesting.

But these positives are outweighed by the negatives. Really not worth the time I've spent playing it. It's a shame - it could be great.

For a very long time I did not pay attention to this game, I thought another mediocre craft. But as it turned out, this game is simply incredible! Huge freedom of action, changing seasons, dating sim and much more! There is quite a lot of content, but, as always, I want more) I hope that in the future the developer will not abandon the game and continue in the same direction as now! I also hope for the appearance of the mother of the protagonist in the game

First, I must say, I really like almost everything this game has to offer. Everything from the kinks, to the animation, to the grammar, and the relationships. However, my only current critique is that I wish more options and potential avenues weren't closed off early or were rediscoverable or obtainable again. As someone who's a bit of a completionist with games like these, I hate exploring a game for a couple hours and being immersed in it only to find out after all that time that certain scenes, scenarios, relationships, etc. are no longer viable because I had sex with someone too soon or didn't learn something quickly enough. Regardless of this annoyance, I still rank this game as one of the top on this website!

A very good game, I like the art style, there are many areas, A very rich story, many characters that each have their personality and some even have unique statistics, And yet a lot of game mechanics that fit very well into the game.

Great art, great characters, great possibilities, but hugely bloated with:
- bugs
- too many stories that oftenclash into each other and corrupt your game
- no focus at all

I actually prefer to play older versions of this game.
This game sadly wants too much too fast and needs to step down multiple levels.

Pretty good dating simulator. The H game has a massive amount of HCG content, very good to see, but to get to the content takes quite a bit of time and patience for each girl. The grinding of love points is on par, but the time-date specific events take forever if you miss them and have to cycle the year. The harem is stuck in a dilemma of wanting you to grab as much ass as you can, but unless you read a walkthrough you're not going to get there on your first playthroughs and might even block yourself out of content. The H game mostly has solo endings, which further discourages you from playing the H game as a harem, outside of making multiple save states and just knowing how to beat the game ahead of time. The genre tag's impact were softened, don't expect any hardcore or indulgent focus to them, such as the incest, pregnancy or NTR. Overall, a softcore H game that's harem focused, but the harem is really just there to distract you from objectives towards the harem itself, lots of trial and error gameplay.

Positive Points:
+2D artstyle (not anymore)
+Lots of character with model and personality variety
+Good use of sandbox system
+Lots of content

Neutral Points:
*Quest system
*Grind (can be expect in sandbox game, not the worst I've ever seen)

Negative Points:
-Wiki and quick save are your best friends
-Last character represent a different fetish
-Possibility to play Female MC but lose 80% of the content
-Bug, bug, bug and bug
-Old save not so compatible

Conclusion:
I play this game for a long time, one of my favorite at the beginning but I'll probably not continue after being forced to reset my playthrough for the third time. Every new update you get new bugs and after few updates it become unplayable and you have to reset your save.
Some of the quest can be failed and one of more character can leave the game with no back up possibility. So you have to play with an open wiki (impossible to find the quest solution by yourself) and save a lot in fear to fail your playthrough. Even with that you can failed coz there is so much event that on of them can appear during a timed quest and fuck you up.
All the last character that have been put in the game is a kind of fetish... Lexi the prostitute you can pimp, Kylie the yandere that can create a game over, Shiori the cow milf, Minami your sister (yeah incest was really necessary on this game), Ayesha the body building girl, Hanna the submitted girl and last but not least Alexis your ex that will cheat on you everytime you try to date her... If you want every harem and content you have to deal with all these fetish...
The quality artstyle of the beginning become inconsistent. I don't know if there is an issue with the original artist or lack of time/investment but some of the art from the last updates are just disgusting, scenes are copy/past of another already seen....
Did I recommend this game? Not anymore. There is lots of good thing but too much issue and bad decision since 1 year. You can try it but keep in mind the game problems.

Test done on version 22.1.0a

The game's fine, characters are interesting and the overall story is neat. Sometimes the hints are vague and there's a time where I somehow took too long to unlock the nightclub despite having fancy clothes. Though I think the game's already very good right now, with the voicing and stuff, but I think it would be a great improvement if it was animated as well. Morgan's doggy scene was one of the hottest and there are a lot more scenes that are hot asf as it is and would be hotter if it's animated. There's another big problem in this game too, it doesn't have what a lot of other games have, the gallery. This game needs a gallery, we can't rewatch the scenes without resorting to saveslots, starting a new game, and visiting the girl. Overall, it's good, but needs a gallery and could do well if it's animated.

I'm going to be honest, I have 0 clue how this is so liked...

First issue is the grind, this game has so many stats and points that you need to grind that just the gameplay alone with no reading would take 50 hours of nonstop clicking.
Second issue is the convoluted quest lines for each girl, if you don't have a walkthrough be prepared to get slapped in the face with either NTR or losing the girl.
Third issue is the artwork, sometimes its good (never amazing) but a lot of the times it looks drawn by a completely different artist in MS paint.
Fourth is the broken saves, every other release requires a complete replay through of the entire game which as stated before is grindy and requires pinpoint accurate choices or you will lose your girls.
Finally the sandbox itself is poorly designed and many girls just take too long and too many day resets to get their stats up, since they have very little times you can even interact with them.

Overall 1/5 would not recommend.

I tried this game because I liked the artwork and most of the tags. The reviews were mixed, but I still decided to try it. After more than 10 hours of gameplay with the MC trying to woo his two roommates, I got the equivalent of a game over when one of the roommates just moved out because the MC did something wrong. It was a total WTF moment for me. I found a walkthrough and I basically did everything right, but something was just slightly out of order and there's no way to correct it with any of my saved games. I know there's a lot more content in this game, but I'm not willing to just play along only to get blindsided by one minor mistake and having to keep dozens of old saves around just to try to figure out how to correct the mistake. Fuck that! There's a difference between entertainment and time-wasting and I don't think the developer knows what it is.

I'm not going back and playing for several more hours just to get to a point where I can fix a previous subtle "mistake". Maybe players that love to re-play brain-dead Nintendo game levels over and over will want to play this game over and over to figure out where they went wrong and finally get it right, but I don't have the time or the patience for this garbage.

Quit. Delete. Move on.

Good luck to the dev

Excellent game so far. Characters are mostly voiced, pretty decently for the most part. Art is good, though sometimes inconsistent for the same character in some scenes. Relationship building is well paced and it's easy to get immersed in them.

The main reason I took a star was because none of the scenes are currently animated. Most main sex scenes are one image before the act, one during , and another for the aftermath. Otherwise this game has so much going for it that even jut 2 or 3 frame animations and perhaps a tad more depth for some of the characters would be all it needs to set it on the path of a perfect title.

My biggest criticism is that there isn't much reason to replay scenes with any of the girls and they don't have much personality or spontaneousness outside of date situations or specific holidays. To have as many choices as a german brothel, this game had to sacrifice depth with half the cast.

The no-condom-and-drunk scenes aren't much different from scenes after a girl asks you to help her get pregnant, if at all. Several of the scenes, it still treats it like it's unwanted. It'd be nice if there was some different writing behind various scenes. A random swap between possibilities, no more artwork needed, but just something new to read. Many scenes also don't seem to take dom/sub, kink or whatever points are involved, into consideration. Fricking any given one of them on date 1 doesn't often yield any different results than if you're doing it after 5 dates, max love, and going steady.

It seems like some of the cast is just abandoned as cast continues to grow, in favor of more harem content that can't be repeated without tactical saving. Good examples being Anna and Hanna. Emma's story also seems stalled out, and what there is of it, it's repetitive.

I have been a fan of this game for a long time. However I haven't played it in the past 4-5 months because of 1 reason, and 1 reason only. I'll first tell you the great things about this game. Great story element, immersive world, fun mechanics and cool art. People sometimes cry about the grind but I find it fun because of the great environment that exists in the game. Content is also added at a good pace which tells you how dedicated the developer is. But I'll still give it a 4 out 5 and the reason being is the sex scenes. This game has the potential of being the best, but when it comes to the main stuff, it is a bit disappointing. I had read some reviews earlier and I was a bit baffled as people keep praising the artwork, but I think they are commending the artwork in general which I also agree with. My only advice would be to improve the quality of the sex scenes. Apart from that, great job, great game. Keep it up.

[v21.11.0]
The game was supposed to be one of the best. But it gets worse and worse. The stories and variety of girls are one of its good sides. The art is a good side of it but it is inconsistent. The dialogues and voice lines are also top-notch. So what's the problem? Bugs. Tons of bugs. The game gives us new bugs every patch. This game has few punishment systems. But what it punishes you most with bugs. The game requires a lot of grinding and time. But it will make them all meaningless when you can't progress because of bugs. Moreover, old saves do not work properly which makes your efforts go to waste. In addition, the stories clash with each other. The story tracker is not that great either. I liked the game a lot. But it is unplayable. Even though there are bug-fix patches, they can't fix it all.