Cartageno

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I personally think Shooting is more crucial to choose at the beginning. During Aletta's second weekend event her sub points get drastically decreased if you don't got that skill. Means it's harder to get her back up or you've a chance to get fired if you chose to sleep with Shiori/Lavish and Aletta in a few days while Aletta's sub points aren't high enough...
I never really had a problem max subbing Aletta since a phone call is a guaranteed +1 Kink and can be done during the daily texting. Yes, a bit annoying, but not consequential in the end.

But Cassidy takes away the main option to get money for two weeks (or you can get fired), which indirectly influences other girls. Not having money for rent lowers Sasha's and Bree's LPs and dates may not be successful if you don't have enough money for gifts...
In my games, once Cassidy event fired, I had enough money to easily survive two weeks. Maybe had to tone a bit down on the Yuri Mangas and Slave literature for a week, but never had trouble paying my rent.

I guess if there was an alternative option to get money (I know about being a manager for Palla, but her story takes forever as well and the other options either don't give enough money or are to random...) I wouldn't mind Cassidy that much. (I know from reading the code that when you get fired you can hire in some other places, but never have tried it, but that will of course block you from the office harem and stuff...)
Also money from other sources is a pittance. Unless you want to play for years, there's no way to make enough money once you get fired IMO.

Hmm, doesn't not having a car at that point only block Kleio from getting her sub points higher? The alternative event does progress her story fruther and I think there's not need for her being a sex slave in the Band Harem...
You may be correct, but I prefer my bandmates subservient ;)

But I guess we could argue for a long time without coming to the same conclusions... ^^ I played the game around 9 times (7 times with and 2 times without cheats) in the last year and Cassidy's storyline always bothers me and I try to postpone her as much as I can, but I also don't like her character that much...
I think I've done 4 playthroughs without cheats and started one with cheat, got kinda boring. I also try to stop Cassidy a bit but then again I like her, so that may influence our relative judgments. At least while pursuing her I can also go after other girls ;)

The game is more fun without cheats, waiting for a special season to progress a girl is so boring if you only click wait and sleep for a dozen of days, earning money on the way and progressing other stuff alongside makes it more fun (at least for me...)
Agreed. I have an NG+ with 40k or so money, all stats maxed, all traits I need. As I wrote in an earlier post asking about the grind it sometimes feels more grindy because you lack all the small successes on the wayside.
 

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wow i forgot how frustrating this game can be. events dont load the way you except and you get so many overlapping ones, you lose progress. im stuck on the step sister not triggering her siscon stuff, its messing with my home harem. i only just got bree slaved and im trying to get sasha but her collar wont go on.. its pissing me off.
 
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88Michele88

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the overview need to be fixed the the fact the game it not only about the geek guy but als about female protagonist as well. The description is outdated. Need to be fixed with all current content and Female MC as well.
 
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also would be nice if the items had a hover info so you know what they do instead of either trial and error or using dr. google. game is good, just takes so long to do anything just to get a few secs of goodies
 

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wow i forgot how frustrating this game can be. events dont load the way you except and you get so many overlapping ones, you lose progress. im stuck on the step sister not triggering her siscon stuff, its messing with my home harem. i only just got bree slaved and im trying to get sasha but her collar wont go on.. its pissing me off.
It's a shame the game got too big and too many things cause problems to each other.
 

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we are trying to mod the Oni Rogue-like (his code is worse by leaps and bounds) and our guru coders are not gaining any headway at all. its gotten so bad, they were forced to rewrite the whole engine form scratch
 

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This is just a bug fix, right? The actual Actualization comes in two weeks if I am not wrong

EDIT:

Woah, watching the order in where girls where introduced in amazing, its all different to what I thought they were.
 

Cartageno

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This is just a bug fix, right? The actual Actualization comes in two weeks if I am not wrong

EDIT:

Woah, watching the order in where girls where introduced in amazing, its all different to what I thought they were.
Since it's from 22-3-0a to 22-3-0b, it is indeed just a bugfix (only the letter changed). New versions with major content additions always have the numbers go up.
 

EvolutionKills

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I like some of the characters, and the writing isn't half bad, even if this is an overtly grindy experience.

But fuck me, if the art doesn't ruin the experience.

The best art in this game is the backgrounds. They're skillfully done, have their perspective in order, and come in daytime/nighttime version with seasonal variants for the outdoors. All are competently done, if not terribly imaginative. Sadly however, they are the high watermark for that art. The lewd scenes only WISH they could be in the same ballpark as the background art. The fucking background art.

All of the lewd scenes are peak Deviant Art amateur hour shit-show. Consistent art style? Who the fuck needs it! Hope you like every character looking at least three different ways, because there are multiple commissioned artists and none of them agree with each other! There's bad western cartoon style, bad high-schooler copying anime style, and finally the horribly mangled human-ish shaped blobs of putty that pass for most of the lewd scenes (some of them are so bad, they're almost Cronenberg levels of body horror). Zero consistency.

They couldn't even get the same artist to do all of the dialogue paperdolls, so you have doe-eyed anime-esque Bree...

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...right next to very not-anime-esque Audrey,...

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...and they look like they're from entirely different games or universes. One has relatively thick linework, whereas the other has almost no line work and relies entirely on shading; it's two very different art styles that just don't mesh well. Also Bree's hair changes from disheveled curls to full on hair-drills, depending on who's drawing here in any given scene. Fucking pick one, and stick with it.

Sweet holy fuck, the art is so fucking bad. I could teach a college level 101 art class using this game's art as a baseline for how NOT to draw humans, their proportions, or perspective in general. Not a single fuck was given for any of the lewd scenes. Couldn't even be bothered to find a clip on PornHub to at least get an idea about what two people actually look like when they're fucking. Nope. Couldn't even do that. Looking at actual porn for reference was too much work for the artists drawing this embarrassing shit.

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This is what you get when you commission a 17 year old anime fan who doodles Naruto all over their notes in high school. This artist is very poorly aping anime design cues, like the male MC's fucking air-breather agape mouth. They've also clearly never had a life drawing class, or anything even resembling a college level course focused on drawing people or human anatomy. I should know, I was an art major in college (Art Institute of Pittsburgh, BS in Game Art & Design). The line work is bad, the perspective is weird, and the proportions are goofy. Again, peak Deviant Art amateur hour.

Still not convinced?

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Look at that.

What. The. Actual. FUCK.

Everything about that is fucked up. Perspective? Who the fuck needs it! Proportions? What's that! This one is even more personally galling, as I am an avid motorcycle rider. Whoever drew this has never ridden a motorcycle. Hell, they may not have ever ridden a bicycle. They sure as shit didn't bother to Google search for an image of someone riding a motorcycle, or hell, even just a motorcycle. This is the half-remembered fever dream drawn by someone who had never seen a bike themselves, but instead had a motorcycle described to them by a drunk homeless person on the street at 3am, and used that barely coherent screed as their working reference. No fucking idea HOW a person sits on or actually interacts with a motorcycle (where are the fucking foot pegs?). They are not two people sitting on a bike going down the road, but rather two flat pancakes copy-pasted over top of a blob pretending to be a bike. What is up with the fucking amorphous blob of black and red that's supposed to be the rear of the bike?

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I get that not everyone just has a bike or two lying around to take picture of themselves for reference, but motorcycles aren't exactly hard to Google.



That's the real kicker. Every fucking time things are about to get interesting and spicy, the horrible art just derails the entire experience. It is distractingly bad, easily overpowering whatever scene it is placed in. I just can't 'get into it' during the lewd scenes, because while the writing is pretty decent (not great, Pale Carnations this is not), I can't get over how fugly it all is.

Also, the male MC always looks like a goddamn tool. Plus, he comes in about a half dozen different shades of tan and brown, because again, zero fucking consistency with the art. Hell, he changes color in the same scene sometimes!

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Is my dude orange or brown? FFS...
 
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Shad0wk1ng09

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honestly, and this is coming form an artist, i think there are multiple artists doin the game art not jsut one person. there a very different techniques on several of the girls and even with Mike. i mean, they are close enough to get away with it. there are a few that kinda bug me, one being sasha's "angry" dragonball face and the minira (not sure the spelling) blonde hair head.. its just way off palette
 

Andrealphus

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I like some of the characters, and the writing isn't half bad, even if this is an overtly grindy experience.

But fuck me, if the art doesn't ruin the experience.

The best art in this game is the backgrounds. They're skillfully done, have their perspective in order, and come in daytime/nighttime version with seasonal variants for the outdoors. All are competently done, if not terribly imaginative. Sadly however, they are the high watermark for that art. The lewd scenes only WISH they could be in the same ballpark as the background art. The fucking background art.

All of the lewd scenes are peak Deviant Art amateur hour shit-show. Consistent art style? Who the fuck needs it! Hope you like every character looking at least three different ways, because there are multiple commissioned artists and none of them agree with each other! There's bad western cartoon style, bad high-schooler copying anime style, and finally the horribly mangled human-ish shaped blobs of putty that pass for most of the lewd scenes (some of them are so bad, they're almost Cronenberg levels of body horror). Zero consistency.

They couldn't even get the same artist to do all of the dialogue paperdolls, so you have doe-eyed anime-esque Bree...

View attachment 1764898

...right next to very not-anime-esque Audrey,...

View attachment 1764899

...and they look like they're from entirely different games or universes. One has relatively thick linework, whereas the other has almost no line work and relies entirely on shading; it's two very different art styles that just don't mesh well. Also Bree's hair changes from disheveled curls to full on hair-drills, depending on who's drawing here in any given scene. Fucking pick one, and stick with it.

Sweet holy fuck, the art is so fucking bad. I could teach a college level 101 art class using this game's art as a baseline for how NOT to draw humans, their proportions, or perspective in general. Not a single fuck was given for any of the lewd scenes. Couldn't even be bothered to find a clip on PornHub to at least get an idea about what two people actually look like when they're fucking. Nope. Couldn't even do that. Looking at actual porn for reference was too much work for the artists drawing this embarrassing shit.

View attachment 1764873

This is what you get when you commission a 17 year old anime fan who doodles Naruto all over their notes in high school. This artist is very poorly aping anime design cues, like the male MC's fucking air-breather agape mouth. They've also clearly never had a life drawing class, or anything even resembling a college level course focused on drawing people or human anatomy. I should know, I was an art major in college (Art Institute of Pittsburgh, BS in Game Art & Design). The line work is bad, the perspective is weird, and the proportions are goofy. Again, peak Deviant Art amateur hour.

Still not convinced?

View attachment 1764885

Look at that.

What. The. Actual. FUCK.

Everything about that is fucked up. Perspective? Who the fuck needs it! Proportions? What's that! This one is even more personally galling, as I am an avid motorcycle rider. Whoever drew this has never ridden a motorcycle. Hell, they may not have ever ridden a bicycle. They sure as shit didn't bother to Google search for an image of someone riding a motorcycle, or hell, even just a motorcycle. This is the half-remembered fever dream drawn by someone who had never seen a bike themselves, but instead had a motorcycle described to them by a drunk homeless person on the street at 3am, and used that barely coherent screed as their working reference. No fucking idea HOW a person sits on or actually interacts with a motorcycle (where are the fucking foot pegs?). They are not two people sitting on a bike going down the road, but rather two flat pancakes copy-pasted over top of a blob pretending to be a bike. What is up with the fucking amorphous blob of black and red that's supposed to be the rear of the bike?

View attachment 1764894

I get that not everyone just has a bike or two lying around to take picture of themselves for reference, but motorcycles aren't exactly hard to Google.



That's the real kicker. Every fucking time things are about to get interesting and spicy, the horrible art just derails the entire experience. It is distractingly bad, easily overpowering whatever scene it is placed in. I just can't 'get into it' during the lewd scenes, because while the writing is pretty decent (not great, Pale Carnations this is not), I can't get over how fugly it all is.

Also, the male MC always looks like a goddamn tool. Plus, he comes in about a half dozen different shades of tan and brown, because again, zero fucking consistency with the art. Hell, he changes color in the same scene sometimes!

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Is my dude orange or brown? FFS...
Sorry you don't like the art ^^
- Yes we are aware of the inconsistencies but no there are not dozens of artists working on this (currently there are 2 and at most there was 3)
- All of the dialogue art for all the girls are from the same artist
 

Shad0wk1ng09

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Sorry you don't like the art ^^
- Yes we are aware of the inconsistencies but no there are not dozens of artists working on this (currently there are 2 and at most there was 3)
- All of the dialogue art for all the girls are from the same artist
evolutionkills may not like the art, i kinda do, though some needs work. few touch up here and there makes all the difference. i know all about that, im in the process of redoing all the oni art from rogue-like so its more compatible with out new code base..
 

EvolutionKills

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- All of the dialogue art for all the girls are from the same artist
I am both horrified, and yet somehow, not at all surprised by that. I mean, sure, why not? Why shouldn't the same artist draw characters for the same game in two wildly different art style with different proportions? Bree's eyes are twice as large as Audrey's, so of course they were drawn by the same person.

I hope that for your sake at least, that whoever you commissioned for the artwork came cheap.
 

Mr.Heartbeat

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Sorry you don't like the art ^^
- Yes we are aware of the inconsistencies but no there are not dozens of artists working on this (currently there are 2 and at most there was 3)
- All of the dialogue art for all the girls are from the same artist
how about this idea? all three artist collab drawing all the lewd scene but for every individual character they do it solo.

although i can see the disadvantage of this idea but it might be consistent at the very least.

this also brings me a question, who is going to be your 3D modeler for the reboot?
 
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