Ren'Py Love & Sex Second Base [v25.2.0b] [Andrealphus]

[rd3123]

okay fellow pervs I have a dilemma and need some guidance on my options.

I just took lexi to mall date. The cat is out of the bag with Lexi and Sasha.
Sasha got made - lost 13LOVE and now she just says PISS OFF.

Both were 100 LOVE
Lexi was locked at 25 Submissive - so she wasn't a slave.
Sasha was 54 submissive

My reading of WIKI and such makes it seem the only way this works out is if Sasha had already agreed to be my sex slave and asks Lexi if she takes good care of me.

So is this understanding correct? Do I go to a previous save and do not take Lexi to Mall yet? Or will Sasha eventually stop saying Piss Off and still work something out so that I can be in a relationship with both her and Lexi?
I wasn't planning on making sasha a sex slave/collared person. But it seems I may have to in order to advance Lexi's story cuz she's locked at 25 sub, and the next on the list is mall date.

You need to backtrack. Lexi needs Sasha to be collared to be able to both collar her and join the home harem.

 

[Swiftflame]

When I do Bree's birthday date she says it feels like a moment where I'd propose but then it says I missed the point and just laugh which brings the date score way down and loses some love points. I'm not sure what I'm missing or need to do?

 

[TittyLuvr1334]

You need to backtrack. Lexi needs Sasha to be collared to be able to both collar her and join the home harem.

Thank you both for your answers.

But what if I don't want to collar or have them as home harem? I done necessarily need them to be together.
I guess what I'm asking is - will Sasha eventually stop saying PISS OFF or have I permanently ruined my relationship with her?
At the end of the encounter, Lexi was like 'hey i'm okay with whatever is going on with sasha"
So if I can repair my relationship with Sasha and continue on as it was which was going swell with them both until the Mall date.

(i'm not really a fan of making Sasha sex slave - what i love about her is her independent fierceness; to take that away removes a lot of what makes her different from so many others, and when you sex-slave/collar people they all seem to pretty much act the same).

 

[rd3123]

Thank you both for your answers.

But what if I don't want to collar or have them as home harem? I need them to be together.
I guess what I'm asking is - will Sasha eventually stop saying PISS OFF or have I permanently ruined my relationship with her?
At the end of the encounter, Lexi was like 'hey i'm okay with whatever is going on with sasha"
So if I can repair my relationship with Sasha and continue on as it was which was going swell with them both until the Mall date.

(i'm not really a fan of making Sasha sex slave - what i love about her is her independent fierceness; to take that away removes a lot of what makes her different from so many others, and when you sex-slave/collar people they all seem to pretty much act the same).

You've ruined it. Sasha is the only girl in the game that if you cheat on at all her possessive streak bear full fruit and she never goes back afterwards.

Collaring her or raising her to 75 kp and having her fully submit are the only two ways it won't occur. If you raise her to 75 kp you can talk to her at meal time and she will submit without collar since she is what you call a switch in she likes both being dominated and dominating depending on individual she interacts with.

 

[TittyLuvr1334]

You've ruined it. Sasha is the only girl in the game that if you cheat on at all her possessive streak bear full fruit and she never goes back afterwards.

Collaring her or raising her to 75 kp and having her fully submit are the only two ways it won't occur. If you raise her to 75 kp you can talk to her at meal time and she will submit without collar since she is what you call a switch in she likes both being dominated and dominating depending on individual she interacts with.

Hmmm, okay - sad to hear. I got a "APOLOGIZE" event update when it happened for Sasha - so it led me to believe there was some hope - but for the next couple days she just said "piss off" so i have no idea what that is about.

Thanks for the advice of the on getting Sasha more submissive.

What I wonder is - can I up the Sub points to 75, unlock the ability to have the mall date, and unlock Lexi's Sub cap of 25, THEN allow Sasha's sub to dwindle back down to 50? Would that then ruin the pact? or is it forever unlocked?


EDIT _ and what's really confusing is you're saying that Sasha is one of those who you absolutely cannot be with anyone else (unless she's a slave) - during a band studio event, when Kleio was flirting with me, Sasha left and I opted to walk her home, but she encouraged me to go back to the studio to have sex with Kleio. So a bit out of character I think.

 

[Cartageno]

EDIT _ and what's really confusing is you're saying that Sasha is one of those who you absolutely cannot be with anyone else (unless she's a slave) - during a band studio event, when Kleio was flirting with me, Sasha left and I opted to walk her home, but she encouraged me to go back to the studio to have sex with Kleio. So a bit out of character I think.

Yeah. That had been mentioned before. However, she doesn't know what you're doing, and for some people that is a huge difference. But given her general jealous behavior, yeah, OOC moment.

 

[Kiirraann]

Can anyone help me, I don't see Audrey in story tracker and 'meet people' tab. I have replayed the game from start to trigger her story but she doesn't show up even after the conditions( from wiki) are met. She just doesn't appear in the game except for the opening scene in office.

 

[rd3123]

Hmmm, okay - sad to hear. I got a "APOLOGIZE" event update when it happened for Sasha - so it led me to believe there was some hope - but for the next couple days she just said "piss off" so i have no idea what that is about.

Thanks for the advice of the on getting Sasha more submissive.

What I wonder is - can I up the Sub points to 75, unlock the ability to have the mall date, and unlock Lexi's Sub cap of 25, THEN allow Sasha's sub to dwindle back down to 50? Would that then ruin the pact? or is it forever unlocked?


EDIT _ and what's really confusing is you're saying that Sasha is one of those who you absolutely cannot be with anyone else (unless she's a slave) - during a band studio event, when Kleio was flirting with me, Sasha left and I opted to walk her home, but she encouraged me to go back to the studio to have sex with Kleio. So a bit out of character I think.

You can be with anyone else. That is not an issue with Sasha. Just before you get to 75 kp you can't kiss or grope anybody in front of her after kissing her. THAT is the trigger for what happened. As for the apology event, if you have Samantha up to the point that you either told her about the cheating Ryan was doing before or after the wedding, you can talk to her at the bakery about giving advice on this. This is really supposed to be a part of the jealous harem events, but I guess it can be triggered otherwise surprisingly. After talking to Samantha you should be able to apologize to Sasha theoritically.

 

[TittyLuvr1334]

You can be with anyone else. That is not an issue with Sasha. Just before you get to 75 kp you can't kiss or grope anybody in front of her after kissing her. THAT is the trigger for what happened. As for the apology event, if you have Samantha up to the point that you either told her about the cheating Ryan was doing before or after the wedding, you can talk to her at the bakery about giving advice on this. This is really supposed to be a part of the jealous harem events, but I guess it can be triggered otherwise surprisingly. After talking to Samantha you should be able to apologize to Sasha theoritically.

What I was talking about had nothing to do with Samantha.
I was on a date with Lexi at the mall. She dragged me into the clothing store where Sasha was working. Sasha asked her how she (Lexi) knew me, and Lexi blurted that we were romantically involved.
Sasha told me she was disappointed in me and left (-13 LOVE), a "APOLOGIZE" event showed up on the right column showing a new event unlocked - but for the next few days I couldn't interact with Sasha - she just said Piss Off.
So I came here to ask if the "piss off" was now a permanent thing for me/her. Which so far the responses are "she's gone - i've ruined my chances with Sasha" So I was confused what the point of the "Apologize" event if it can never be effectuated.

 

[TittyLuvr1334]

Can anyone help me, I don't see Audrey in story tracker and 'meet people' tab. I have replayed the game from start to trigger her story but she doesn't show up even after the conditions( from wiki) are met. She just doesn't appear in the game except for the opening scene in office.
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The first time to really interact with Audrey (IIRC) is at the pub after work in the evening time.

 

[TittyLuvr1334]

So Next dilemma. I've read about Emma (who is super cute in those dream sequences) that if you're "boyfriend" status with Samantha, you cannot pursue Emma.

So I "friendzoned" Sam and when she asked me if I was wanting to date her, I said "not really".

However when I finally met Emma (just happened) she introduced me as "boyfriend" even though the status on her profile says "Just friends".

Afterwards MC asks her to clarify? "Wait what? You introduced me as a boyfriend? We never talked about that" and she admitted she got carried away and made a mistake.


SOOOOO - are my chances with Emma now severed because of that? I would have to go way back to before she met me in the mall and told me she broke up with douchebag...I mean Ryan.

 

[TheOGTommy]

im not gonna lie, this is the reason i have yet to get that far into this game. so many bullshite "you said kinda instead of maybe in that one conversation 156 days ago? yeah, now that girl is unfuckable" kind of crap.

i really dont get why so many devs think doing this will make people want to replay the game.

its a massive pet peeve of mine, right along arbitrary choices for routes mid game. i remember playing this not bad, but not great kim possible game, and i had to pick how to treat someone, i dont remember which choice i got, but so many days later i didnt get a single real scene with the girl, and instead i got a "you gotta pick the other route to get the rest of the content".

mind you this shit is for other characters too.

and the game is sandbox badly done, meaning you gotta spend so much time grinding for stuff that only has 1 use.

WHY?

this is the reason i keep telling devs, SANDBOX ISNT BAD, BAD SANDBOX IS BAD. and this is the worst style of sandbox there is.

punishing the player for not doing the right choice perfectly.

and its not like normal visual novels are that diferent either, with many having this stupid point system, that makes you unable to get scenes because you didnt answer the right way every time. and its either that, or no choice at all.


so if you want that kind of replayability doesnt make it a sandbox.

I'm going to put my two cents on this
I see this game as like the MYHOUSE.WAD mod for GzDoom, the creator intends you to go in completely blind, with no info on the story, just knowing what it is and the type of game and all that, both the mod and game also expect you to play through the game once whatever you do and how far you get by yourself is what you got to. then when you can't find out anything new to find out they expect you to go online and get help to either 100% the game, get the true ending, etc. L&SSB also expects you to trial and error the game before you look online for the answer to what you were having trouble with as does myhouse

TL;DR Play through the game once, trial and error, then look online for what you were having trouble on

now here is where add my two cents on the game itself, as a sandbox renpy game, it is good in a lot of areas
the time system is good, and the art is good, the choices are consistent in terms of what you can do a lot of stuff is good in this game and with it running in the same engine as DDLC which is a linear game
now I'm going to say that this game can get buggy at times (which happens with any game on any engine) as well as laggy because my computer is the type where it has a 1 GHz CPU so that might be only on my end
the game is a awsome with flaws cause no game is perfect
the game deserves the fame it has

sorry if there are any gramatical errors my brain is half awake i will most likely edit it so it makes more sense later

 

[TheOGTommy]

So Next dilemma. I've read about Emma (who is super cute in those dream sequences) that if you're "boyfriend" status with Samantha, you cannot pursue Emma.

So I "friendzoned" Sam and when she asked me if I was wanting to date her, I said "not really".

However when I finally met Emma (just happened) she introduced me as "boyfriend" even though the status on her profile says "Just friends".

Afterwards MC asks her to clarify? "Wait what? You introduced me as a boyfriend? We never talked about that" and she admitted she got carried away and made a mistake.


SOOOOO - are my chances with Emma now severed because of that? I would have to go way back to before she met me in the mall and told me she broke up with douchebag...I mean Ryan.

did tell sam about ryan cheatin before the wedding or after the wedding

 

[TheOGTommy]

So Next dilemma. I've read about Emma (who is super cute in those dream sequences) that if you're "boyfriend" status with Samantha, you cannot pursue Emma.

So I "friendzoned" Sam and when she asked me if I was wanting to date her, I said "not really".

However when I finally met Emma (just happened) she introduced me as "boyfriend" even though the status on her profile says "Just friends".

Afterwards MC asks her to clarify? "Wait what? You introduced me as a boyfriend? We never talked about that" and she admitted she got carried away and made a mistake.


SOOOOO - are my chances with Emma now severed because of that? I would have to go way back to before she met me in the mall and told me she broke up with douchebag...I mean Ryan.

so based on you saying that sams status is girlfriend went on

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which is where Sam dumps Ryan and wants an exclusive relationship with you
the path you want to happen is

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where the wedding happens but you want to tell her on the second quest in path b

You must be registered to see the links

straight from the wiki
Samantha had a talk with Ryan about their marriage not working, and in response he disappeared. She looks for comfort and then sex.

Afterward, Mike has the opportunity to tell her Ryan cheated, if he knows.

• If Mike tells her, she will ask why Mike waited so long
  • If he says Sam isn’t much better, she leaves, and this opens
    You must be registered to see the links
    .
  • If he apologizes, this opens
    You must be registered to see the links
    .
• If Mike doesn’t tell her about the cheating, she suggests a threesome with Ryan. This opens
  You must be registered to see the links
  of her story.

long story short you want to go back to a save where you have not told Sam about Ryan cheating before the wedding

 

[JollyRancher69]

No ones posted 23.07 yet? Funny that the monthly build hasnt been posted but the weekly builds were pretty consistently lol

 

[TheOGTommy]

No ones posted 23.07 yet? Funny that the monthly build hasnt been posted but the weekly builds were pretty consistently lol

true lol

 

[TheOGTommy]

i was having a date with bree and... my dick fell off

 

[TittyLuvr1334]

i was having a date with bree and... my dick fell off

That's happening to a lot of guys lately.

 

[TittyLuvr1334]

so based on you saying that sams status is girlfriend went on

You must be registered to see the links

which is where Sam dumps Ryan and wants an exclusive relationship with you
the path you want to happen is

You must be registered to see the links

where the wedding happens but you want to tell her on the second quest in path b

You must be registered to see the links

straight from the wiki
Samantha had a talk with Ryan about their marriage not working, and in response he disappeared. She looks for comfort and then sex.

Afterward, Mike has the opportunity to tell her Ryan cheated, if he knows.

• If Mike tells her, she will ask why Mike waited so long
  • If he says Sam isn’t much better, she leaves, and this opens
    You must be registered to see the links
    .
  • If he apologizes, this opens
    You must be registered to see the links
    .
• If Mike doesn’t tell her about the cheating, she suggests a threesome with Ryan. This opens
  You must be registered to see the links
  of her story.

long story short you want to go back to a save where you have not told Sam about Ryan cheating before the wedding

OKAY - that's quite a lot to take in.
No none of that happened.


Here's the path as it unfolded. I was going down the "revenge path" as detailed in the wiki.
I did not tell Sam prior to wedding.
I let them get married. She caught Ryan cheating at the wedding reception. Out of spite, she gave me a BJ at the wedding reception.
She came over to my house several times - talked on the phone while she did dirty things with me
I talked to her about why she wearing ring.
Last one was she came to my house in her wedding dress, had sex, and she took a picture of herself covered in cum and sent to Ryan.
She met up with me at the park, and Ryan showed up. He started getting rowdy with us, and so i kicked the shit out of him when he tried to go after her.
She later told me she was divorcing Ryan.


Meanwhile -
I had dream of Emma
I had second dream of Emma
I looked for her everywhere (couldn't find her) and unlocked the event to meet her.


The day On Samantha's bio page I was listed as "FRIEND", but I had the 'friendzone' icon available. I used that. I lost 8 heart but was still like 77 heart. Bio changed from "Friend" to "just friends"

Then same day, she found me in mall and said "I would like to date you". My response was "i'm not sure I feel the same" (lost 3 hearts).

Next day I went to bakery, she introduced me to Emma as her boyfriend. After Emma left, I admonished Sam that I wasn't sure why she did that. Sam offered a "Friend Date" for all three of us.

That's where I'm at.

 

[TheOGTommy]

OKAY - that's quite a lot to take in.
No none of that happened.


Here's the path as it unfolded. I was going down the "revenge path" as detailed in the wiki.
I did not tell Sam prior to wedding.
I let them get married. She caught Ryan cheating at the wedding reception. Out of spite, she gave me a BJ at the wedding reception.
She came over to my house several times - talked on the phone while she did dirty things with me
I talked to her about why she wearing ring.
Last one was she came to my house in her wedding dress, had sex, and she took a picture of herself covered in cum and sent to Ryan.
She met up with me at the park, and Ryan showed up. He started getting rowdy with us, and so i kicked the shit out of him when he tried to go after her.
She later told me she was divorcing Ryan.


Meanwhile -
I had dream of Emma
I had second dream of Emma
I looked for her everywhere (couldn't find her) and unlocked the event to meet her.


The day On Samantha's bio page I was listed as "FRIEND", but I had the 'friendzone' icon available. I used that. I lost 8 heart but was still like 77 heart. Bio changed from "Friend" to "just friends"

Then same day, she found me in mall and said "I would like to date you". My response was "i'm not sure I feel the same" (lost 3 hearts).

Next day I went to bakery, she introduced me to Emma as her boyfriend. After Emma left, I admonished Sam that I wasn't sure why she did that. Sam offered a "Friend Date" for all three of us.

That's where I'm at.

i forgot to ask what is emmas LP but based off of you saying friend date she is at 10 lp

this part is from the wiki

A Friend Date


Prerequisite: Bakery, 2 days since Samantha's Friend

Samantha organizes to get together with Mike and Emma. It will take place at 16:00 on the day of your choice.

Choosing to joke about dating both of them gains Samantha 5 LesP . After this event Emma will give you her number.

Outcome: Emma become available on the map, LP max set to 10.