Yup, the end of the game is near folks! Let it be over so our fav dev can focus on the next gem that's already showing a great deal of insanely good promise!
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Where is the last version available? I been using 69games. but it seems that it doesn't get update since 2022
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Ummmm, on page 1 at the top in this forum. There are links to the most recent build.
MakinWaves
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img/chars/fiona/story/introS2Lwd1.mp4 and img/chars/fiona/story/introS2Lwd0.mp4 also stutter severely on Google Chrome. YMMV
The entire scene where Jen admits she finds the thought of the PC being intimate with Fiona arousing and eventually begging her own son to "break" her sister like he did to her is fantastic btw
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Should be "and a multitude"
img/chars/fiona/story/introS2Lwd1.mp4 and img/chars/fiona/story/introS2Lwd0.mp4 also stutter severely on Google Chrome. YMMV
The entire scene where Jen admits she finds the thought of the PC being intimate with Fiona arousing and eventually begging her own son to "break" her sister like he did to her is fantastic btw
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Thanks for pointing this out! And i'll see if I can get those clips fixed. Happy to say you'll get a follow up to that event in the next release.
I'm so excited.
More typos:
Should be "You're going to make me cum~!"Christine Anal Scene said:
When interacting with Christine in the morning, she asks "So, has she actually beaten me to it?", and one of the options has a typo: "Jelous?"
Should be "prey on a young"Jen Bring Someone Over Task said:
After Christine heard 6 lydia love sex events, I cannot update the requirement for Christine/Lydia's "Steak and Wine" goal. It's stuck at 3/6. EDIT: I used dev tools to set the ChistineSpyLwd variable (or whatever it's called) under LydiaEventObj to 6 but I did not get a new scene option in the PC's room, just Christine Story: Intentions.
Been thinking about Christine and Lydia. I'm not quite through the end of the content with her yet, so this might be premature, but I want to get my thoughts down before I sleep.
First off, I think a "Player is loyal to Lydia from start to finish and never sleeps with another woman" ending doesn't fit in the game. It might be possible to get to the gym content and meet Lydia without ever coming onto Jen, but even then it wouldn't be a fair expectation that the player will ignore the poster girl of the game and hold out for their darling wife.
However, Christine's very presence has made me wonder a few times if the game has been tracking my dalliances with Lydia's mother, especially if I'm doing the love route, where the relationship between the PC and Lydia is more emotionally intimate and balanced: Lydia overcomes her past issues with the PC, and generally seems more in love with the PC than obsessed/seduced as she is the lust route. I kept predicting that, at some point, the game would pull a "gotcha" moment on me for making Lydia my girlfriend (and avoiding all NTR content, claiming that I've never cheated at the party, etc.) and then turning around and fucking her mother behind her back. I figured it would be Christine springing the trap shut; she's supposed to be a fairly cutthroat woman that's seduced more than one man for his money and has no shame in telling her own daughter to use her body to get what she wants from men - namely you - in front of you. (It's so brazen and horrible that it winds back to being endearing.) I thought that Christine, seeing that Lydia is genuinely falling in love with the PC, would eventually put her foot down and either demand that the PC stop meeting her (Christine), or else break the news of your infidelity if the PC and Lydia attempt to go steady/official. I got a taste of that with the Love route Anal scene with Christine, where she initially claims her intention is to remove the temptation entirely by moving out of the house before the PC seduces her - or does he? Christine is fun like that; she could pull a 180 and toss the PC out at any point and I'd believe it. Nevertheless, it seems that there's more content with the two of them past this point.
So I thought about it some, asking what I wanted here and what would actually work. I don't think Christine should cock-block the PC or end the Lydia love route if the player chooses to mess around with Christine; it's a porn game with a bunch of different LIs and the player naturally expects to romance multiple women if multiple women are offered. Just a staple of the genre, and going against the grain here would piss people off, could add some significant programming and storywriting complexity, and, honestly, doesn't quite fit with the story as a whole anyways. Even ignoring Lydia, the player can follow the Jen, Fiona, and Mel love routes simultaneously without being threatened with negative consequences. Locking a true harem game to just the lust routes would be bizarre at this point.
I think that there could be room for inclusion of these choices at the very, very end though. In the epilogue, the closing slideshow, the final rundown of all the different relationships and choices. At this final point, where lots of branching depending on player choice matters less because you don't have to pick any of them back up, I think having a different end result for a relationship with Lydia depending on the player's choices regarding Christine would be a nice touch for her character and a good way to add some player choice beyond the current love/lust dichotomy.
Some ideas:
* Lust route, flings with Christine, harem end: Player doms both and adds them to his harem. If Lydia gets married, it's just for his money. If she leaves home, she always finds her way back to the PC. Mother and daughter sleeping in the same bed with the same man is too wonderful of a sick perversion to give up, and neither finds their way out from under his thumb.
* Love route, flings with Christine, player cuts it off, non-harem end: PC and Lydia marry, Christine honors the marriage, but never quite gives up tempting the PCs loyalty to her daughter. If he resists, her daughter has a fine, honest husband, something that Christine never had and maybe never expected for her daughter. If he gives in, Christine has her favorite toy back and can prune a cheating husband from her daughter's life. Win-win.
* Love route, flings with Christine, player doesn't cut it off, non-harem end: Lydia wants to marry, but Christine spills the beans. Lydia is hurt, but the PC is too much of a part of her life and the nature of their relationship was vague for so long that she can't bring herself to shut him out. They remain friends with benefits, as does the PC and Christine, but never anything more. If they part ways, it's amicable and she's still grateful for his help and companionship.
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MakinWaves I'm not sure if it's a bug or something normal, but I can't join Krissy Saturday night party anymore. I see Lidya going there but I can't find the option to join her in her house.
Could you post your save file so I can take a look? (Save menu -> save to disk)
Thanks again for the typos, fixed them
So the Christine goal will stop once you unlock either the love or lewd story event. Sorry for the confusion but it's intentional. I'll see if I can put something in there to make it more clear / hide the goal once it's done.
I didn't account for people only going with one girl and being loyal to her etc. I figured it was probably possible, but so unlikely a course a player would take, as I'm sure is reasonable. I *may* be able to detect it when it comes time for the endings and give a special bonus or something. That's the sort of thing I want the endings to reflect.
Speaking of which, the plan for the endings is quite in line with what you're thinking. A bunch of choices of how you want to proceed, such as choosing one girl or starting a harem, then it all playing out with some reactions / additions based on choices made through the game. The Lydia / Christine thing should play out at this point. I'll probably even give Christine her own special ending, maybe Krissy too?
I'm glad you found Christine's awful behaviour endearing, since that's what I was going for. Having that third character to bounce off added a nice extra layer to it all I think. Definitely something to keep in mind for the future.
I'll be putting out a usual dev post for the supporters soon, but there's honestly not a whole lot to show. Fiona is getting new home events to make up her final content stage, something you've all seen many times by now
Waves what would you consider to be a "cannon" ending or route ? Or your personal favorite.
I really can't look at this as having a cannon route. Picking a favourite? My mind goes between Atonia, Lydia and Jen to the point I have to ask for them all!
Yea, having them all under one roof.... ufffff..... best ending yet lol
I have finished the special visit event and it says I have finished the current love route so it is not showing anymore events for me to progress to.
It comes up with the message 'end of current love route content'.
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It's been a wee while since I played or posted about this great game as I've been too busy with my stupid education but I can't imagine that the underlying formula for Jen specifically has changed from version 10/11 (whichever I played last). I used to know the game well enough that I didn't ever use the walkthrough so I can't speak to what events are called on that but having had a quick glance at the patch notes for the last few releases it doesn't seem like Jen has had any new main content since I last played so hopefully this helps.
Her final main event(s) are the anal ones and I'd imagine the walkthrough will cut off at this point. If that's where you are then you've finished her main content but there will still be dozens of other events scattered throughout the game, at home, the office, the club, gym, street, etc. You just have to find them. At the end of an event chain there will be a tab in your bedroom after you wake up following a sleep to "level up" and start the next set of main events. This happens every time you finish a main event chain from the walkthrough with all the characters.
If you're running the love route individually then you're missing out on a lot of the other content and while I would suggest doing the lust route too you won't be able to play a lot of it without starting a new game because of how the game progresses when you level up Jen after the final event in the chain.
To anyone playing the game from scratch I can't recommend enough going down both the love and lust routes before choosing which of the main events you want to finish to progress the story.
I'll wait for the next release before getting my teeth into this game again properly which should be especially fun with all of the updates to play through. Maybe one day I'll finally find the time to pen a personal guide or something like I have in the past but we'll have to see. Time is everything we have and don't.
You need to do the intro that will appear in your room (same place as the special visit event). It appears between 7am - 9am.
Go through all the fund/morale sub event options for yourself and the characters you have working there, and see if any still have rewards to give. There should be an arrow on the link if there is still a reward to collect. You may also consider hiring Lydia if you haven't, which can be done by talking to her in her room.
If you are really stuck, post your save file for me (save menu -> save to disk) and I can check myself where you are missing something.
For the Lydia gym events, you need prositituion level. You might have to use the button to go back to the previous level's events, do one of the sharing events there to get her level up.