I vote for adding the LI point of view during the ntr events like a "Meanwhile...." and see directly and from the start what happend to the LI in term of ntr. Maybe this point of view of the LI can be optional for people who like to keep the ntr a mystery until the MC find out. But I think the majority of people who like ntr wants to see it happen from the start to see the evolution/corruption happening. I think that is the best compromise...?
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I vote for the exact opposite, though in his prior post it sounds like the dev is inclined to proceed along these lines. From my perspective the overall tone of dialogue of the game is more mature and "western", and these kinds of displays would feel like a jarring discontinuity. Unless you're talking about the more realistic style of "oh, I rejected this girl, now off screen she's going out with some guy tonight." <--more realistic but not really compelling porn game material.
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The Idea currently is that you can just see/witness the same as MC. And I thought a lot about this the past 2 weeks. And I more less already made my decision to not do those meanwhile moments or similiar things like see trough walls/doors etc.
Here is my reason:
I played a lot of AVNs now. You can hate it or love it but one of my favourit genres is NTR/Cheating. But it's not that you see your partner with someone else it's more the pain you get from first time realizing it/caught them. The constantly fucked up jealous mind while you don't know what happened. But in most/maybe all NTR games it's getting destroyed (IN MY OPINION!) because you clearly see right from the beginninig what happens. But thats totally fine because they don't wanna hide it.
And so I came up with the idea to create my own game and also with the name Lovephobia. I really would like to archive transporting those feelings but I am not an experienced writer or an artist so might fail my goal. And if that's a dealbreaker for some people than I am sorry but I really wann stick to my vision of the game. And this change would be just to huge.
Yes, it is a lot work, no doubt about that. But we are trying to warn you, there is a dead-end street ahead. This tropes you mention are, in a visual medium (PORN) a makeshift solution, a inevitable solution. The quest is which master holds your oath, AVN or AN? In the moment only one thead hat a visual payoff. To NTR itself, is it the play of ruin. The MC is not a avatar of the player, he is a crashtest dummy. It is not the player bond to a chair in a dark room, were the last scene and collapse of the building is a black screen. It is a highspeed crashtest in spotlight, filmed by 360 grade cameras for 3d and slow motion. A ballet of aluminium, plastic and steel. The Dummy liberated from gravity, frozen in time, gaze into his doom in wait of his last touch.
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Honestly I don't understand what you wrote down. Even with google translator it doesn't really make sense to me. Could you simplify your text?
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I prefer more the corruption type. The "realizing/caugh" type, for me, demand a lot of effort to put myself/identify into the MC. And you basically fap only once at the very end lol. Anyway, I still don't know why you can't do both. With a disable FMC POV option for the corruption scenes. Its more work of couse, but maybe worth it
Then, it's your game, it is great like it is for the vanilla part. We will just have to wait for the ntr part...
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This is not an NTR focused game, yeah sure bro sure. Hole game seems like a cuckfest with some beta MC.
how on earth can it be a cuckfest if no one's slept with anyone else yet? (Other than mc and his girl together) This makes zero sense, unless you got triggered by the mother talking about going on a date.
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I am happy to hear that you like the Vanilla path so far. I really try to be as transparent to you guys as much as possible. And there are so many things I didn't thought about few months ago when I started Lovephobia. So many things I thought will turn out so much different.I prefer more the corruption type. The "realizing/caugh" type, for me, demand a lot of effort to put myself/identify into the MC. And you basically fap only once at the very end lol. Anyway, I still don't know why you can't do both. With a disable FMC POV option for the corruption scenes. Its more work of couse, but maybe worth it
The MC and Ava parts turned out (in my opinion) so much better as on my papers that I am not happy anymore with the way I planned to start the Ava NTR path. Which means I can still do it the way it is currently written down and hope the best or I think about something new. Something more suitable.
I have so much like much much much much much and even more mucheseses.. fun creating that game that I probably will think about something else just so I will not reget it later. It will still take some more time until it starts so currently the only NTR will be only with the others girls.
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It's your opinion that's ok. But I would really like to know why you came to that conclusion?
This tropes you mention are, in a visual medium (PORN) a makeshift solution, a inevitable solution.
Trope = stereotype, cliche
Plot devices as: in the meantime or transparent walls.
Visual medium = Film, Videogames or Visual Novel.
This Stereotypes are blunt but necessary tools.
The quest is which master holds your oath, AVN or AN?
Quest = Question, sorry, my bad.
AVN = Adult Visual Novel
AN = Adult Novel
What is your goal? Are you creating a porngame or a trashy book.
In the moment only one thead hat a visual payoff.
Create two or more plotlines, but reward only one, is unwise.
To NTR itself, is it the play of ruin.
Zentral genre point is collapse, individual and social collapse.
The MC is not a avatar of the player, he is a crashtest dummy.
The player is not in character, he is a observer. Empathy not coping.
It is not the player bond to a chair in a dark room, were the last scene and collapse of the building is a black screen.
Filming the collapse of a dark building by placing the camera inside.
Art critics will love it, but art critics dont buy.
It is a highspeed crashtest in spotlight, filmed by 360 grade cameras for 3d and slow motion.
Crashtest high-level filmed.
A ballet of aluminium, plastic and steel.
Car crash in slow motion.
The Dummy liberated from gravity, frozen in time, gaze into his doom in wait of his last touch.
Dummy in the moment of the collision.
Trope = stereotype, cliche
Plot devices as: in the meantime or transparent walls.
Visual medium = Film, Videogames or Visual Novel.
This Stereotypes are blunt but necessary tools.
The quest is which master holds your oath, AVN or AN?
Quest = Question, sorry, my bad.
AVN = Adult Visual Novel
AN = Adult Novel
What is your goal? Are you creating a porngame or a trashy book.
In the moment only one thead hat a visual payoff.
Create two or more plotlines, but reward only one, is unwise.
To NTR itself, is it the play of ruin.
Zentral genre point is collapse, individual and social collapse.
The MC is not a avatar of the player, he is a crashtest dummy.
The player is not in character, he is a observer. Empathy not coping.
It is not the player bond to a chair in a dark room, were the last scene and collapse of the building is a black screen.
Filming the collapse of a dark building by placing the camera inside.
Art critics will love it, but art critics dont buy.
It is a highspeed crashtest in spotlight, filmed by 360 grade cameras for 3d and slow motion.
Crashtest high-level filmed.
A ballet of aluminium, plastic and steel.
Car crash in slow motion.
The Dummy liberated from gravity, frozen in time, gaze into his doom in wait of his last touch.
Dummy in the moment of the collision.
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First of all thank you for taking the time. I should have explain my problems a bit better, I am sorry. It's less that I don't know the words, it's more that I don't understand what you are trying to tell me. My answer are inside the quote.
Short legend:
Red = Polyphem first post
White = Polyphem answer
Purple = Dev answer
Short legend:
Red = Polyphem first post
White = Polyphem answer
Purple = Dev answer
Okay, all i am saying is your game is promising, but the quadrature of the circle is not possible. Yes, 100% is impossible. Humans are born with 10 fingers, but is every human born with 10 fingers? Yes, the scene with mom and Matt is a perfect example. Short, flawless but oddly sterile. Ava cross the scene moments ago, no impact? Kitchens are reverberative, is the MC deaf? Or was he spotted before he can speak? The shlurp as banal as it is, it leads to emotions and thoughts in the MC. The look through the wall may convey moms emotion in this streeful moment. So it is a unemotional hunch grip. For the last 4, contrast, unemotional disguised narration of a collapse vs the raw uncut moment of a collapse.
That is indeed very sad to read, especially cause the main girl seems hot af. Well you cant get them all
cheers and good luck, movin on
