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Some quick advice for you DEV as you seem to be genuine in your attempts to be clear and transparent.

Firstly, you are going to need to decide "who the game is for"

If its for the NTR/Sharing/Swinging/Trans/Vanilla crowd; (biggest money is probably in the Vanilla and then the NTR groups)

You are going to have to focus on toning the game for that crowd. There are many ways that DEV's try to do this, but the simplist (arguably) is to focus on elements that appeal to that group and make anything else AVOIDABLE*

If its a story for YOU;
Then do whatever the hell you please, but know that your going to have seriously reduced appeal and player numbers.

Avoidable* is not the same as skippable. As a non-english native speaker, I know how hard it can be to confuse some of these very similar terms. But Avoidable means that elements can be avoided, either by something like a fetish toggle on the menu or by player choice in the game. Skippable means that the player can choose not to experience/view those elements, but that they still happen in the story. This avoidable/skippable label is VERY important to many players as it will have a large effect on if they hit the IGNORE button or not.

My final bit of general advice, if the game has a single instance of something happening TAG it. For example if female LI has sexual relations with another female LI - tag it. Don't assume its fine because "they are both girls" - thats an opinion, and a player is going to go by their own, not yours.

Its much better to be overly cautious and 'tag' ish than to not tag because the game "didn't have enough in your opinion". If you don't tag it, and the content is their (in the players opinion) you will be called deceptive and trust will be broken. If you tag for something that is borderline and the Devs/Players tell you to remove it.. We'll the blame for the tag not being there is on them. Which as a Dev is infinatly better.

I have some specific advice in regards to your post, which I will give below the quotes.

Otherwise, graphics are awesome (expecially for AI) and good luck

Prostitution.. no chance of avoiding it. Key characters in the game work as prostitutes and one of the factions is about protecting and advancing their status, protecting their businesses etc. But it isn't you or anyone in the family that do it, Isabella and Gabriella are prostitutes and strippers etc. Isabella, not so much as she is wanting to retire from that life, but Gabriella is and does use those skills to advance her agenda and protect Isabella and her allies. It doesn't mean you will see her doing it. At this point I can't see why I would have you actually watching her "at work", the prostitution side of it anyway, stripping.. almost certainly.
If any of these are Love Interests of sexual partners for the MC, it is something you should let the players know about before they get into the game. Prostitute LI's are a very dangerous story to attempt as it can easily backfire. Best advice is to be transparent and consider things from the One Dick Rule (explained below)

NTR I've talked about it on other threads, I don't think it's what most people seem to be reading it as, but can't work out how to explain that.
This is pretty easy to consider in the terms of F95's player base. Regardless of what the original meaning of NTR was. On this site, and to many Adult Game Lovers, NTR is a catch all for 'Other Dicks touching girls who will touch the MC's dick". I am not saying that this is the correct use of the NTR venacular, what I AM saying is that its the SAFEST use. Also let players know if they can avoid it, skip it, or not.

You seem like a Dev who cares, and likely wants to be around for a while. That means maintaining the trust and respect of the players. Therefore, play it safe.

Futa/Trans - one of the main romantic interests who is not in 0.1 and won't be in for a while, is trans. Sort of, they are a different species so i'm not sure that gender identity tag works here. You don't have to romance them, but I doubt I could make it so you don't interact with them at all. There are also other supernatural and magical beings and it's likely some of those will have multiple sex attributes, but you will not have to engage in sex with any of them (but you may see them if, for example, it's a god or demon that doesn't care about hiding what they are). I dono, i could put an option to skip the images showing I guess, I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
Two things here... saying "I'll figure it out later, or I'll cross that bridge" is going to immediatly make a good number of players assume the worst, so probably best to figure this out asap and let people know.

My suggestion would be either avoidable or (if you really want the gold star) allow the player to select if the Trans character is actually a regular old female or not. Its extra work, but the players will respect you all the more for it.

Trans in general is another good example of the One Dick Rule. For some, if there is a dick, it's not a woman.

Overall, if its something people are asking about/bitching about/complaining about/wondering about its probably best to be as clear and transparent as you can.

1 instance of it = add the tag
avoidable/skippable/forced = let them know

Hope this helps. It is meant to be genuine and helpful.

Good Luck.

PS: The One Dick Rule = if it involves any penis other than the MC's, let the players know about it and if it can be avoided.
 

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Luminary Protocol is an adult Isekai visual novel with a dark, unfolding narrative. You, along with others, are torn from your reality and thrown into Lumis—a dangerous, magic-filled copy of Earth ruled by enigmatic gods and demons.
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Wow!!! For your first time I think this is amazing. I salute you for giving it a try and I think you have the potential to do something magical. Devs with years of experience haven't done what you have and it will only get better. Best of luck, looking forward to the next update.
 
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There is player choice, but the overall plot remains the same. I don't want to get tied up in knots trying to track multiple story altering events. Also, the more major plot variations you have to manage, the longer it takes to get anywhere with the game. One of my favourite games on here is Seeds of Chaos. I love the characters, the art style, the deep interwoven plots and the choice.. but the story moves along so slowly because they have to produce so many variations. I find that frustrating and don't want it to happen here. So choices here = flavour, think Mass Effect style renegade/paragon. The outcome is usually not different, but the way it is achieved puts a different flavour or spin on it. There haven't been many choices up to this point, because the opening was intended to set the scene, build some characters and establish the challenge ahead of the MC. You will notice at the end that there are points for things starting to be accrued. Those points will translate into different (not better or the only way to achieve something) options in later choices. It will also unlock events and missions and determine the outcome of certain key events.
Well, i already drop this one so do as you please, i will just not read/play it.
For now there are 2 choices for a little less 1 hour, the first is not important and the second finish to the same, so don t really matter and even not flavour anything. with update regularity to the work done, i don t really care the time it take, when you will finish it, one day... it will just be one path game in the end, no replay ability and quickly forget, that all.
Set the scene... more lock player in one path you chose for the story you want to tell... for me vn or more like play to paper role play than read a book, but well. you want to make a kinetic it s up on you, like i said i already drop this one because there are not enought choice to call this a game...
So good luck for your story, i will not answer more so there is no point to answer me, i would just tell you why i drop it and end.
 

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Ok, here it's better to ask a more specific question. I have nothing against prostitutes having sex or slaves as long as they are not imposed on us like LI and I don't consider this NTR. The question is, will the main LI sleep with someone behind the MC's back while being in a relationship with him?
Simple answer, no.

Gabriella is the contentious one here. I'm intending to allow that relationship to go either way.. casual or involved. She is a prostitute and someone who will do whatever it takes to achieve her goals, but that will be obvious. Her longer term plotline involves getting her out of that lifestyle. By the time any kind of romance is in the air, she won't be having sex with others. But it's up to the player whether they choose to engage in her romance path, her casual path or she just be there as a companion you don't get involved sexually or romantically with.

There is a plotline involving a major love interest that could also see her having sex with a god. Again, it's down to player choice whether she does or not and whether the MC is involved in it or not. There will be a clear and always available route where that does not happen.
 
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Some quick advice for you DEV as you seem to be genuine in your attempts to be clear and transparent.

Firstly, you are going to need to decide "who the game is for"

If its for the NTR/Sharing/Swinging/Trans/Vanilla crowd; (biggest money is probably in the Vanilla and then the NTR groups)

You are going to have to focus on toning the game for that crowd. There are many ways that DEV's try to do this, but the simplist (arguably) is to focus on elements that appeal to that group and make anything else AVOIDABLE*

If its a story for YOU;
Then do whatever the hell you please, but know that your going to have seriously reduced appeal and player numbers.

Avoidable* is not the same as skippable. As a non-english native speaker, I know how hard it can be to confuse some of these very similar terms. But Avoidable means that elements can be avoided, either by something like a fetish toggle on the menu or by player choice in the game. Skippable means that the player can choose not to experience/view those elements, but that they still happen in the story. This avoidable/skippable label is VERY important to many players as it will have a large effect on if they hit the IGNORE button or not.

My final bit of general advice, if the game has a single instance of something happening TAG it. For example if female LI has sexual relations with another female LI - tag it. Don't assume its fine because "they are both girls" - thats an opinion, and a player is going to go by their own, not yours.

Its much better to be overly cautious and 'tag' ish than to not tag because the game "didn't have enough in your opinion". If you don't tag it, and the content is their (in the players opinion) you will be called deceptive and trust will be broken. If you tag for something that is borderline and the Devs/Players tell you to remove it.. We'll the blame for the tag not being there is on them. Which as a Dev is infinatly better.

I have some specific advice in regards to your post, which I will give below the quotes.

Otherwise, graphics are awesome (expecially for AI) and good luck



If any of these are Love Interests of sexual partners for the MC, it is something you should let the players know about before they get into the game. Prostitute LI's are a very dangerous story to attempt as it can easily backfire. Best advice is to be transparent and consider things from the One Dick Rule (explained below)



This is pretty easy to consider in the terms of F95's player base. Regardless of what the original meaning of NTR was. On this site, and to many Adult Game Lovers, NTR is a catch all for 'Other Dicks touching girls who will touch the MC's dick". I am not saying that this is the correct use of the NTR venacular, what I AM saying is that its the SAFEST use. Also let players know if they can avoid it, skip it, or not.

You seem like a Dev who cares, and likely wants to be around for a while. That means maintaining the trust and respect of the players. Therefore, play it safe.



Two things here... saying "I'll figure it out later, or I'll cross that bridge" is going to immediatly make a good number of players assume the worst, so probably best to figure this out asap and let people know.

My suggestion would be either avoidable or (if you really want the gold star) allow the player to select if the Trans character is actually a regular old female or not. Its extra work, but the players will respect you all the more for it.

Trans in general is another good example of the One Dick Rule. For some, if there is a dick, it's not a woman.

Overall, if its something people are asking about/bitching about/complaining about/wondering about its probably best to be as clear and transparent as you can.

1 instance of it = add the tag
avoidable/skippable/forced = let them know

Hope this helps. It is meant to be genuine and helpful.

Good Luck.

PS: The One Dick Rule = if it involves any penis other than the MC's, let the players know about it and if it can be avoided.

Thank you, I intend to put a codex in, it's "on the list".
This game is definitely not intended to be for the NTR crowd. There is one character who will be having sex with others, as it's her job and a means to an end. You won't see it, it won't be whilst you are romantically entangled with them and the idea is to get them away from that life. There is one who will be pursued by a god with strange proposition and it's up to the MC to decide whether and to what extent they go along with it.

I will consider your advice about the trans character and you are right, that would be the ideal solution. It's a long way away yet, so I've got time to work out if the work load of doubling up the sex and nudity scenes is feasible or not.
 
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Got to say it is fairly impressive. If you want AI generated sex scenes you might want to try contacting Novel (the maker of Boundaries of Morality) they have animated AI generated sex scenes, and may be able to help if you want to include them, however it would be equally valid to just stick with the way you are doing it.

I have a couple of points, in the Pearl, a couple of times people refer to the MC as Alex, even if you have renamed your character.
I think it was during the prologue (or might have been chapter 1), when talking with your step-sister she mentions being trained in sword and stave. Now a stave is a rod, and that may have been your intent as magic and wands and what not, but if you are refering to the long stick-like weapon, it would be more proper to refer to it as a staff, unless you are using the pural form in which case it would indeed be staves, although curiously in games like D&D they have taken to calling them staffs, which to me, just doesn't sound right, but hey.

I really like the animated scenes, but I do find the looping a tiny bit jarring, I think if it were up to me, I would either play the scene once and pause it on the final frame, or add a delay of a few seconds before repeating it (preferably with some sort of transition, like a blur or fade, not sure which would work best). Just my opinion and feel free to ignore it

I don't think your conceit of step family will in any way save you from the ban hammer, although some games do fly under the radar for a LONG while before they get pinged. User defined relationships, or a patch are typically the best way to avoid this.
You are seriously playing with fire including any sort of darker sexual activity, Steam is really relaxed (even allowing "real" incest), but I think even they will draw a hard line under what you have planned, not sure on the policy of Itch, perhaps reach out to someone like Oppiaman and see what their policies are, I don't think they are a particularly popular platform right now, but they might be a little more relaxed about your content.
Thank you for the feedbacl. I did get the staff/stave thing the wrong way around so I'll change that. Also thanks for the catch on the default name, I've corrected that for the next version.

You are not the only one to comment about the repeating animations being jarring so Ill make them play once in the next update.
 
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The characters are attractive. The girls are hot. The guys are handsome. MC is good looking and ripped. Even the saggy-breasted madame is gorgeous. The story has potential and the writing is adequate; even quite good in spots. Many of the scene renders are spectacular. That's the good part. Overall, this VN needs a LOT of work.

I hate being a grammar nazi, but the grammar is horrendous. Good word usage is not enough. Learn to punctuate or get a proof reader, JubsGames.

Text boxes. No, don't. They get in the way. They are awful. A nice white blocky font with a black boarder and a transparent text box is highly legible.
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Switching back and forth between fonts is a terrible idea. Especially when one of them is fake cursive chicken scratchings.
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If you want to use colored text to tell me who's talking, that's fine. Don't put it in a sentence on a regular basis. You colorize and bold case pronouns like sister, brother, mother and, proper nouns like first and last names in sentences throughout the story. It's distracting and immersion breaking. Worst of all it's unnecessary.

Incest or no incest: It doesn't matter. Lose the "step" bullshit. You'll constantly catch hell about it from the incest fanatics. However, whether it's going to be step or full relation - chill. Treat it more casually. Very seldom does anyone say, "Sister, hand me the butter, please." They never ever say, "Stepsister, hand me the butter, please." And no one even thinks of saying, "Brother, I like your tie." Establish the relationships and move on. Mum, is good. Brothers and sisters call each other by name, pet name or nickname.

Looping animations: No, no, no. No, no, no, no! Every time a character walks up; every time MC walks down a street; I'm jerked around by the animation ending, and characters teleporting back to their starting position while I dutifully try to read several lines of dialogue or paragraphs of narration. It' jarring, annoying, distracting and aggravating. You are actually encouraging me to skip the text. Did I mention it's annoying? It's annoying. Run it once and let me enjoy your excellent graphic art after I've finished reading the text. I get the idea after one viewing... People walked. Breasts bounced. Life is good.

The looping animations absolutely ruin the rescue scene. Whatever impact seeing the abuse victims are subjected to is lost to the loopy loopy. That scene could really use some help from the standpoint of depicting the actions of the rescuers, as well. It just doesn't have any punch to it as it stands.

Finally, our stud-muffin MC could really use a bit more spine. He doesn't really come across as a dweeb or a coward..., just..., useless. He gets jump pinned by his little sister. He's intimidated by a fat, drunken asshole. He gets shown up by a bloodied, wisp of a blonde. By the time that rescue is over I have the impression she didn't really need his help. The only combat victories he has under his belt are the ones where he manages a sneak attack from behind. Not exactly heroic up to this point. I get that you want him to grow into his stature, but we need our heroes to have at least some victories that portend greatness rather than sneakiness.

I'm sure this will seem like a harsh review. I didn't pull any punches, but I'm really trying to help. I think this could be a good story and a successful project for you. But..., as it stands now, I wouldn't recommend it.

Edit: Even step incest will get you banned on Patreon, eventually. You need to write it completely without and make it easy to substitute for a mod. Even then, a few good stories have been banned by spies on the F95 reporting back to Patreon.
Thanks for taking the time to provide this feedback.

I think the grammar issue is because I was writing the story in renpy. I've started writing it in Word and then transferring it to renpy later.

You are not the only to mention the video looping as an issue. It didn't bother me, but I can understand why it would jar. I'll remove the looping. I figured people might prefer to see the animations again, but they can always scroll back and forth to restart it.

The MC being not particularly effective at this point is deliberate. Emelia didn't need his help, but his help did help and she appreciates it. They have a conversation about this in 0.2. I can't see that a pampered, western 20 year old, even with 6 months of training, would be jumping into knife combat with confidence. Chapter 2 is called Reality Check because it is the event that starts to turn him into a much more decisive and effective fighter. He isn't living in the UK anymore. This isn't some lovely fairy-tale fantasy world. He has to accept that his life is never going back to the relative ease he had before. He knows that what he did wasn't heroic or particularly impressive. It takes this event for him to grow and having now taken a life, taking another one is going to be less of a barrier to overcome. Emelia is also going to be putting him through his paces and building his confidence in 0.2, where he will be significantly more 'heroic'.
 
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Personally I like the fact that the MC nearly has a mental breakdown after killing for the first time. Far too many games have the MC start combat for the first time, slaughter a bajillion people and then off to the pub for a pint, pie and chips, and when asked how was their day at work, they answer "eh...same old...".
The time skip immediately after with very little in the way of downtime/rationalisation is slightly...weird, but if (as a writer) you don't know have any experience, it would be really difficult to write about something that you know nothing about. I guess you could find people who have killed in the line of duty (cops or squaddies) and ask them, but starting that conversation is going to be a barrel of giggles...
 
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Thanks for taking the time to provide this feedback.

I think the grammar issue is because I was writing the story in renpy. I've started writing it in Word and then transferring it to renpy later.

You are not the only to mention the video looping as an issue. It didn't bother me, but I can understand why it would jar. I'll remove the looping. I figured people might prefer to see the animations again, but they can always scroll back and forth to restart it.

The MC being not particularly effective at this point is deliberate. Emelia didn't need his help, but his help did help and she appreciates it. They have a conversation about this in 0.2. I can't see that a pampered, western 20 year old, even with 6 months of training, would be jumping into knife combat with confidence. Chapter 2 is called Reality Check because it is the event that starts to turn him into a much more decisive and effective fighter. He isn't living in the UK anymore. This isn't some lovely fairy-tale fantasy world. He has to accept that his life is never going back to the relative ease he had before. He knows that what he did wasn't heroic or particularly impressive. It takes this event for him to grow and having now taken a life, taking another one is going to be less of a barrier to overcome. Emelia is also going to be putting him through his paces and building his confidence in 0.2, where he will be significantly more 'heroic'.
Well then...
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Here it is …
Just to say , you can add "please" or something like that. Always better to be polite :p !

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Come gather 'round, ye kin and code,
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For when my disk did groan and swell,
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No sword in hand, nor steed to ride,
Just wisdom vast and bytes as guide,
He tamed the beast of data’s girth,
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So raise your mugs, let ale be poured,
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Cheers to the one who saves the day,
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I can't wait AI cg be really good in years or maybe a decade. But today is not the day.
 

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Hello.

I was waiting for more informations before trying the game.

I get that. I think maybe I shouldn't have included some of those tags, I just am not sure what the best thing to do about them is. Gay, sissification etc. Not in it, may never be in it. There are gay people and people doing gay things in the world and you may encounter that, but you won't be involved and it won't show what they are doing. There are also slaves and people in situations they have no control of and you may encounter that too, but again.. not in a taking part kind of way. I have a plot line and character arc I could develop where this happens to another character in the game (not the MC) but it's not something I have any intention of working on any time soon, there is a vast amount of other content to get done before I even consider it.
In short, what you're saying is the gay content would consist of voyeur scenes? If so, then it's disappointing.
Well, I'll have to continue searching for another possible good bi game.

A question about the horror tag too : what can we expect? Atmosphere, blood, dismembered members? Soft or more on the gory side?

Good continuation.
 

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Hello.

I was waiting for more informations before trying the game.


In short, what you're saying is the gay content would consist of voyeur scenes? If so, then it's disappointing.
Well, I'll have to continue searching for another possible good bi game.

A question about the horror tag too : what can we expect? Atmosphere, blood, dismembered members? Soft or more on the gory side?

Good continuation.
In all honesty I don't know. I'm not against putting avoidable gay content in the game, or even having the MC be a part of that. It's just so far down the line that I've not spent any time beyond some very basic concepts of what could happen and why.

Horror wise, there will be gore and violence and supernatural beasts, gods, demons and characters. In 0.1 there is an animated scene where a man has ice explode out of his body. I intend to make it is gristly as I can with the tools I have. I was pleasantly surprised at how gory I was able to get that scene, so I'm going to keep pushing it. Some of the storylines will be a bit B-Movie like, sort of modernised and more detailed Hammer Horror I guess. But some stories won't have any horror elements. It's not a horror story, it's a story that happens to have a lot of horror elements within it.
 
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Breath taking Start! Simply super awesome.. Exceptional captivating georgeous intro. Great story & fabulous character line up. All the best dev! You have extraordinary potential, wishing you all sucess!!
 
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