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What MiltonPowers has posted:


My face, when I realize she is trying to destroy her ankles, fighting whit high heels:

I am less worried about her ankles, any woman with enough experience can handle activities in them after a while. I am more worried about an inability to fight on any sandy or less hard ground ;)
 

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The intro alone is worth the download. You should definitely watch the whole thing. Excellent animation, great music
- No women with excessively large, unnatural breasts
- No men with horse-cocks, but nice to look at.
I hope they aren't sex-addicted, man-eating women.

Let the game begins
 

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Well...

I just discovered this game and will follow it... it's not something that normally interests me, but I like the detail being put into it, the story (mostly), and the art.

Now I am realizing its not action (sex & etc.) first but story and dialogue. And honestly am cool with that balance and the overall flavor of the game. Yes... I'm glad it's not just some bump-and-grind porn game.

The only thing that really needs work on is a little less technical world build in the character's dialogue with each other and more emotional connection. The technical world build of magic can be worked out in other ways via teachers, experimentation of the MC on his own and research. This would give the audience and the developer insights to the MC's over all plans, feelings, and considerations as inner monologue can flesh out the details.

Some of the tags describing the game are straight forward, though not so sure about "pregnancy" tag... It's a semi-modern medieval fantasy (actually I should say early Victorian feel to it from the costumes), but in such a world sex has consequences and even though two of the women so far involve are in their 40s, so that means still young enough to have children. Now either it be in Victorian times or medieval times usually the lower of the low class would flirt with such a risk--though to be fair such situation wasn't that unheard of in high society.

Regardless, I hope the developer isn't going to just limited himself to what he already has planned, but step back and study his story, plots, and dynamics and see just how deep and developed he can make it.
Pregnancy will happen in the game, but I need to be quite careful with that because of how it can mess with timelines. Also what do you do with the resulting child? That isn't the cop out "there is a magical nursery that whisks it away to look after it and you never see or hear from it again". In universe, they have contraceptives and they have life magic that can prevent or abort an unwanted pregnancy. There are different attitudes towards this across the world and some gods who are very interested in it.
 
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I am less worried about her ankles, any woman with enough experience can handle activities in them after a while. I am more worried about an inability to fight on any sandy or less hard ground ;)
Yea... that is a good point. It'll come down to aesthetic vs realism and aesthetic, to an extent, will probably win. Her heels here are stilettos and I won't go that far, but sturdy high heels I think will do. There is actually a scene that directly calls this out after an incident with high heels, but it's intended to be a little tongue in cheek.
 
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Also the more I look at the girl in yellow armour, the more I want her to be more than just a side character. I might bring her back in the distant future of updates.
 
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Pregnancy will happen in the game, but I need to be quite careful with that because of how it can mess with timelines. Also what do you do with the resulting child? That isn't the cop out "there is a magical nursery that whisks it away to look after it and you never see or hear from it again". In universe, they have contraceptives and they have life magic that can prevent or abort an unwanted pregnancy. There are different attitudes towards this across the world and some gods who are very interested in it.
If you are going to do pregnancy, an obvious choice would be someone in the Courtesans Guild, as there are bound to be clients who have a thing for pregnant ladies, and they would also have the facilities to look after any resulting children, this was very common in ye olde brothels, which the courtesans guild isn't really, but with rich clients they would doubtless have the resources to provide for children of women who want to bear children, and could serve as potential suragates for wealthy nobles who partners were barren, or as a source of "spares" if the heir has an unfortunate accident. They are also going to have people with the greatest understanding of the sorts of fertility magic that would be needed for safe child birth or getting rid of unwanted bundles of joy.
 
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If you are going to do pregnancy, an obvious choice would be someone in the Courtesans Guild, as there are bound to be clients who have a thing for pregnant ladies, and they would also have the facilities to look after any resulting children, this was very common in ye olde brothels, which the courtesans guild isn't really, but with rich clients they would doubtless have the resources to provide for children of women who want to bear children, and could serve as potential suragates for wealthy nobles who partners were barren, or as a source of "spares" if the heir has an unfortunate accident. They are also going to have people with the greatest understanding of the sorts of fertility magic that would be needed for safe child birth or getting rid of unwanted bundles of joy.
That's interesting, I had no idea they did that. There is a life magic practitioner permanently employed by Isabella to look after her entertainers, so that would fit. There are a few ways I can do it, one way is to have the birth happen at the end of a major plotline that then allows me to do a time-skip of 1 year or something just to get things settled. The other is have a female character who wants a child but doesn't want or need the full "family". There is also Saga and Felsia as options. They will come back into the story as part of Ethan's storyline, and pregnancy is definitely on the cards there; it's a huge part of speluncid culture. Their god started out as a "good" fertility goddess. Into beauty, life, nature etc. but she has been twisted into near insanity by watching all her 'children' die and suffer, over and over again. She, and her followers, will be a big part of later plot lines.
 

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question... is the last content in current update the camping with Alice? cause i cant seem to do anything more now.
 

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Pregnancy will happen in the game, but I need to be quite careful with that because of how it can mess with timelines. Also what do you do with the resulting child? That isn't the cop out "there is a magical nursery that whisks it away to look after it and you never see or hear from it again". In universe, they have contraceptives and they have life magic that can prevent or abort an unwanted pregnancy. There are different attitudes towards this across the world and some gods who are very interested in it.
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I just glad a lot of thought is being put into the story and plots. That is first and foremost of importance. I do like the world build and the system behind it as well as a key plot point-- it works and isn't clunky, distracting, and often fits the narratives. The real consideration is how to develop the magic learning, its concerning aspects, consequences and how it helps develop the progression of the game and its characters. It's how that aspect is being dominated with the interpersonal relationships. Oh, I say continue with defining and presenting the magic system but break it up a little so it doesn't get in the way of how the characters interact so more personal connections can be made. The MC making a surprise discover, some research, help from a teacher, maybe some experimentation. That gives the MC opportunity to decide what he may or may not do with his power, influence and magic abilities... inner monologue how and what he's has learned and how it may affect those he is close to is a solid plot build that shows the audience motives and feelings.

Pregnancy could be a very important aspect of the storyline or just a state of condition that isn't important at all... it depends on the time scale the game is supposed to cover. If the game is say just a year, 9 months of that year is being pregnant; thus no real effect on the timeline and is a plot tool or device to evolve a relationship (basically for all intended consequences no births required). However, if large units of time pass {it's not like every day the MC is going out to slay a dragon}, then pregnancy gets in the way if it happens too soon. Timing is everything in a story.

I wouldn't get too deep in the woods about contraceptives and magic fixes-- but a powerful add to relationship building is the emotional connection the characters have for each other to risk it, especially for older women with more life experience. And for the most part women generally know when they shouldn't have sex. And it could be a whole plot device in itself... Just having a woman come to the MC and say "guess who is going to be a daddy..." isn't a good fit--but if there is a love connection and desire between two characters it can be a risk-- it doesn't have to happen like getting lucky it didn't happen and might be a tool having shared that risk develops the relationship going forward.

Overall, great game... and I love just how wide open it can be developed. Sure, it can be a rifle barrel of predictable events one right after another, and it still would be a good game. However, plenty of room for surprises, plot twists to wow the audience. Not sure how I would write it--likely lean too much into old European history to draw inspirations from. But that's the joy of seeing other people's work in how they do it and why like games well thought out
 
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i like the story of this game so far and the character setup..i see that there is romance options...can you romance multiple ppl or does the other women get angry/dissapointed if you choose others after you started the romance path?
 

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i like the story of this game so far and the character setup..i see that there is romance options...can you romance multiple ppl or does the other women get angry/dissapointed if you choose others after you started the romance path?
Yes you can. I am trying to avoid the trap that I think some "harem" style games fall into ,where all the women throw out all reason and mindlessly accept living in an extended relationship with 15 others, because the MC is just so incredible.

For the older women, this is pretty easy to achieve... The MC is a bit of a fun for them, he scratches an itch but they will never seriously consider embarking on a long term, exclusive relationship with a man who is 20 years younger than they are. He will be a very close friend and trusted confidant, but not their boyfriend/husband. Those women are busy and important enough that they also have no real need or want to go pursuing that. Emelia, for example, already has two adult children and is very happy having fun with the MC and building her business for her children to inherit. So, for her, the MC is perfect. She likes him, she trusts him and if she was 20 years younger with no baggage she'd totally want to commit to him, but she's happy to have a friends with benefits arrangement with him.
For some female characters it will be about convenience, they live high stress, high risk lives and combined with the unusual effects of his chaos spark, they are going to be happy to have someone to blow off steam with.
For others, especially those of a similar age they will be in it for a proper romantic relationship and they will be the harder ones to pull off convincingly. I'm still not 100% sure I can, but I'm going to give it a try.
 

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It's fine as long as you can do naughty stuff with your mum. It's illegal to not allow that and make her this hot. That's written in ancient AVN scripture.

I'm probably interested in her storyline the most. She already has the mysteriously veiled 'what are her actual powers' thing going on and her training with Z-something I forget the name. But I'm also hoping for a bit of backstory about what her adventure was like when she arrived in this world first, without her family, not knowing where they were and if she would she them again, while having to build a new life in a strange world.
 

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It's fine as long as you can do naughty stuff with your mum. It's illegal to not allow that and make her this hot. That's written in ancient AVN scripture.

I'm probably interested in her storyline the most. She already has the mysteriously veiled 'what are her actual powers' thing going on and her training with Z-something I forget the name. But I'm also hoping for a bit of backstory about what her adventure was like when she arrived in this world first, without her family, not knowing where they were and if she would she them again, while having to build a new life in a strange world.
All 3 of the family members are love interests, but it will take a while to get there. There needs to be a good reason why they throw all that societal expectation out the window.

I haven't planned to do a flashback, but she will talk about her experiences. Doesn't mean I wont do it, but it would be a while before I do. Sarah is the single character that all events will revolve around.
 

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All 3 of the family members are love interests, but it will take a while to get there. There needs to be a good reason why they throw all that societal expectation out the window.
this right there.
such a hudge amount of i**est storys in name only where one can just replace a name/title and all stays the same. that the people involved actually have to confront the taboo and the implications/the waight of their decisions, is what makes 80% of the tag.
and so far dev has made an excellent job with this and i hope they can continue to deliver. just from a story point of view rly well done
 

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I agree. There is no pay-off if there isn't a build-up first. As an aside, and I want to be clear I'm not trying to meddle with the story here, it could make for a nice bonding moment between Sarah and MC if she confides in him what her struggles were in the beginning. But you've done great with the story so far and I'm sure you'll make any future storyline worthwhile.
 

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Just started playing the game and so far I'm liking it, although I'm wondering if the aunt and cousins will appear. Or even if they have something to do with it, given that the MC and his family arrived at different times. I dunno, just seemed odd the reference of them at beginning of the game, hence I was curious.

And yes, with the way the game is going the family being love interests will take time, but I don't mind that. Being family members for the sake of being family members isn't necessarily good. While I don't deny I like the incest taboo theme, I much rather have a good writing that fits the game rather than a rushed content just to please a playerbase. Time is needed for quality.

Anyway, good luck to the dev for the project. Curious on how the game will develop in the future.
 
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Just started playing the game and so far I'm liking it, although I'm wondering if the aunt and cousins will appear. Or even if they have something to do with it, given that the MC and his family arrived at different times. I dunno, just seemed odd the reference of them at beginning of the game, hence I was curious.

And yes, with the way the game is going the family being love interests will take time, but I don't mind that. Being family members for the sake of being family members isn't necessarily good. While I don't deny I like the incest taboo theme, I much rather have a good writing that fits the game rather than a rushed content just to please a playerbase. Time is needed for quality.

Anyway, good luck to the dev for the project. Curious on how the game will develop in the future.
Thank you. I left the aunt/cousins stuff in as a possibility for the future, but it really was just a case of leaving the door open, I don't have any specific plans to include them.
 
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