VN Ren'Py Luna Reloaded [v0.20 Part 1] [Frozen Synapse]

[Birdnman993]

lol I actually wasn't asking for a share I just wanted someone to talk to about the latest release because it wasn't here yet. I'm a member of the Patreon but I have a burning need to discuss some of the paths lol, but thanks all the same.

The sub route is going great imo.

I must have missed the route (thank god) with Diatima, someone said they introduced. Nothing would turn me from a paying Patreon member to an EX-patreon member is reintroducing her to me. To each there own but she never did anything for me.

So they don't talk much about the game on Patron? I'm a little sad to hear that.

 

[wildride69]

So they don't talk much about the game on Patron? I'm a little sad to hear that.

I'm sure they have a discord somewhere but I'm way to lazy to look it up lol

 

[wildride69]

the changelog is inside also the update doesn't have a lesbian scene onlly submissive
I play the dom side so no much for me

I love them both but I usually explore the super submissive route first and the play again on the dominant route so she can kick all the ass.

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

Luna Reloaded [v0.20] [Frozen Synapse]

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[LoveWhores]

That's your right, but my point is that Diatima herself (if you've fully played the game) did not die, but plunged herself into cryosleep. And the best part is that she will also be present in Luna Reloaded as a supporting character (one of the possible love interests of the dominant Luna).. In fact, Dia has already appeared in the game, but Luna can't wake her up yet, hehe. Also, after all the events that took place in the Diatima finale, the current Luna is still far from her true abilities. The old world has crumbled, and the new one has yet to be conquered.

The second part "Diatima Issecai" was really annoying,i've only played it to see what's the connection with the first one "Luna's Fall From Grace" and the only thing that i found was that the story happens a lot of years after the stroy in Luna's Fall From Grace,the two leading gang groups still exist, the Ogre's nephew was introduced and that the stupid Diatima was teleported from another world to the world of Luna's Fall From Grace but like i sayed a lot of years after the end of the first game - there was nothing to explain how Diatima's story is a sequel of Luna's Fall From Grace and how they are connected! Now that third one seems to be connected to the second one with Diatima (and it's a lot more better and great,almost like the first Luna) but still doesn't explain how is connected to the first Luna - the story continues from where Diatima's story ended which means everything keep happening a lot of years after Luna's Fall From Grace but the character here is completelly different Luna - the only thing both Lunas share is that they both have some kind of curse,been possessed or have split personality disorder(but it's seems more like the second one - been possessed) but still doesn't explain how the new Luna is connected to the first Luna,i really hope at some point all of that will be explained! Did the first Luna's main story was to be played "bad ass - evil" and because of that she somehow manage to turn into some evil Goddess that later find followers and after so many years find and possessed another girl that's also called Luna(or may be after possessing her it made her believe hers name is Luna and to forget her real name) and look a bit like her but not completelly? Is that why the second Luna also has some kind of split personality disorder - because she is possessed by the first Luna? There are too many questions about the first Luna and that second one - right now it seems Diatima and the new Luna are completelly different story and has nothing to do with the original Luna from the first game!

PS: I played the first Luna on corrupting and submissive path not on evil path or hero path and just like the first Luna,that's how i play the second Luna too!

 

[diesel009]

The second part "Diatima Issecai" was really annoying,i've only played it to see what's the connection with the first one "Luna's Fall From Grace" and the only thing that i found was that the story happens a lot of years after the stroy in Luna's Fall From Grace,the two leading gang groups still exist, the Ogre's nephew was introduced and that the stupid Diatima was teleported from another world to the world of Luna's Fall From Grace but like i sayed a lot of years after the end of the first game - there was nothing to explain how Diatima's story is a sequel of Luna's Fall From Grace and how they are connected! Now that third one seems to be connected to the second one with Diatima (and it's a lot more better and great,almost like the first Luna) but still doesn't explain how is connected to the first Luna - the story continues from where Diatima's story ended which means everything keep happening a lot of years after Luna's Fall From Grace but the character here is completelly different Luna - the only thing both Lunas share is that they both have some kind of curse,been possessed or have split personality disorder(but it's seems more like the second one - been possessed) but still doesn't explain how the new Luna is connected to the first Luna,i really hope at some point all of that will be explained! Did the first Luna's main story was to be played "bad ass - evil" and because of that she somehow manage to turn into some evil Goddess that later find followers and after so many years find and possessed another girl that's also called Luna(or may be after possessing her it made her believe hers name is Luna and to forget her real name) and look a bit like her but not completelly? Is that why the second Luna also has some kind of split personality disorder - because she is possessed by the first Luna? There are too many questions about the first Luna and that second one - right now it seems Diatima and the new Luna are completelly different story and has nothing to do with the original Luna from the first game!

PS: I played the first Luna on corrupting and submissive path not on evil path or hero path and just like the first Luna,that's how i play the second Luna too!

The Cannon version of LFFG is the Dark Raven Godess ending so this game follows it

 

[Lanceire]

I played the first Luna on corrupting and submissive path not on evil path or hero path

That's why. Most if not all lore about Raven and her sisters is told on badass and hero routes and not on sub routes, which makes sense. Also badass ending is canon, as others said.

 

[Stan5851]

PS: I played the first Luna on corrupting and submissive path not on evil path or hero path and just like the first Luna,that's how i play the second Luna too!

Some of the questions have already been answered. The problem is that you ignored the main canon route of LFFG (Вad Ass path), depriving yourself of additional knowledge about the game's plot. I can only advise you to take that route, and then there will be far fewer dark spots.There is no "new Luna", only a weakened Luna/Raven that the game author placed in this post-apocalyptic, degraded-to-medieval world. Here's what the author himself writes about it.

What I can say for sure is it will be a soft reset and that Luna will get nerfed (she was way too strong at the end of LLFG). She will be a badass (if you choose to) but not inhumanely strong or omnipotent.
The dominant/submissive thing will be the default but I am probably going to add subchoices on the dominant route.
The Raven will still be there, though, for various reasons, she will...not be around, at least at first (more like a faint voice in Luna's head basically) and depending on the player's choice, she will come back.

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[LoveWhores]

Some of the questions have already been answered. The problem is that you ignored the main canon route of LFFG (Вad Ass path), depriving yourself of additional knowledge about the game's plot. I can only advise you to take that route, and then there will be far fewer dark spots.There is no "new Luna", only a weakened Luna/Raven that the game author placed in this post-apocalyptic, degraded-to-medieval world. Here's what the author himself writes about it.

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Still doesn't make sense - at the beginning of Luna's Fall From Grace is explained she was the daughter of some mafia Boss who passed away and she was left alone,not a forgotten goddess and one of the other mafia members Anthony(Fat Tony) that always know her and hers father(he was hers father best friend in the past) and since she was also his uncle's goddaughter (Jhon did explained to Santoro at the beginning and sayed that Tony may want to protect Luna because of that)offer to stay and work for him as meanwhile trying to manipulate her and make her his!His uncle payed for hers college and everything and take care of Luna! Luna spend all hers time studying,reading and hanging out with hers friend Kimberly before all that happens,she find hers father died and she was involved in the Mafia stuff!Luna was also in coma for two years after a car accident before all that! I can keep explaining but i think you got my point and if not you can start Luna's Fall From Grace from the beginning of chapter one and see what i mean! She was a human not a goddess which means after so many years later she will either be very old or will not be alive except if it was not in crio-camera like Diatima but there was nowhere to be explained she was in such a crio-camera which means the old Luna probaly died or was somehow turned into a evil goddess in result of some experiments and may be even the drug they used on her and may be that's how she become the so-called Raven but in any case if she was a human before,that new Luna can't be the same one after so many years passed but she can be possessed from that goddess! In that one here we start with the Hellions finding the new Luna but in the Luna's Fall From Grace we start with the Sons and Brotherhood that are taking care of Hellions and the original Luna was first involved with them since they have made a deal with the Familly and Luna was from the Familly! I think it's not only me who should try play Luna's Fall From Grace again but also you since it seems you don't remember everything of the story there and especially the intro at the beginning - like i sayed she was a human not a goddess back there!

 

[Stan5851]

Still doesn't make sense - at the beginning of Luna's Fall From Grace is explained she was the daughter of some mafia Boss who passed away and she was left alone,not a forgotten goddess and one of the other mafia members Anthony(Fat Tony) that always know her and hers father(he was hers father best friend in the past) and since she was also her uncle's goddaughter (Jhon did explained to Santoro at the beginning and sayed that Tony may want to protect Luna because of that)offer to stay and work for him as meanwhile trying to manipulate her and make her his!He payed for hers college and everything and take care of Luna! Luna spend all hers time studying,reading and hanging out with hers friend Kimberly before all that happens,she find hers father died and she was involved in the Mafia stuff!Luna was also in coma for two years after a car accident before all that! I can keep explaining but i think you got my point and if not you can start Luna's Fall From Grace from the beginning of chapter one and see what i mean! She was a human not a goddess which means after so many years later she will either be very old or will not be alive except if it was not in crio-camera like Diatima but there was nowhere to be explained she was in such a crio-camera which means the old Luna probaly died or was somehow turned into a evil goddess in result of some experiments and may be even the drug they used on her and may be that's how she become the so-called Raven but in any case if she was a human before,that new Luna can't be the same one after so many years passed but she can be possessed from that goddess! In that one here we start with the Hellions finding the new Luna but in the Luna's Fall From Grace we start with the Sons and Brotherhood that are taking care of Hellions and the original Luna was first involved with them since they have made a deal with the Familly and Luna was from the Familly! I think it's not only me who should try play Luna's Fall From Grace again but also you since it seems you don't remember everything of the story there and especially the intro at the beginning - like i sayed she was a human not a goddess back there!

Buddy, you've been told before (and not just by me) that you're missing the whole basic point of the game because you haven't played the canon BadAss bitch route. It's all explained there. No one cares who Luna was in the beginning...I remember that mobster and uncle who “took care” of her. But that has nothing to do with divinity and everything else.

Sure, Luna is an ordinary human, not a goddess, but there was a secret organization whose goal was to gain immortality by trying to somehow contact the divine plane of existence and gain the powers of goddesses. Luna was connected to this as the daughter of one of the scientists working on this secret project. I don't remember all the nuances, but the LFFG explains in some detail how it came to be that the Luna was chosen by the sleeping Goddesses for their physical incarnation.

 

[Birdnman993]

A great update, the plot goes from strength to strength, a few things I would like to point out, we added another woman to Luna's Harem (hell yes), little by little Luna is gathering capable women to her cause, which I love, I wish she had done the same in LFFC, now she needs to wake up the sleeping beauty, and hopefully Luna will teach her to use her alien powers.

Now a negative point that I can't ignore is that the quality of the scenes are tremendously mediocre, it hurts me in my heart that a story that I like has visual errors like this.

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Tell me I'm crazy but it looks like Luna is bigger than the man in the last scene or the guy shrunk, it looks really strange, so much so that it makes me raise my eyebrows in shock.

Anyway it's something I needed to get off my chest to be at peace with myself, I love Luna and her story with all its mistakes and flaws.

 

[Stan5851]

Tell me I'm crazy but it looks like Luna is bigger than the man in the last scene or the guy shrunk, it looks really strange, so much so that it makes me raise my eyebrows in shock.

Ofc, he's petty, for he's just a pathetic, lustful dork who risked raising his hand against the harsh but fair Goddess.

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[Blurpee69]

A great update, the plot goes from strength to strength, a few things I would like to point out, we added another woman to Luna's Harem (hell yes), little by little Luna is gathering capable women to her cause, which I love, I wish she had done the same in LFFC, now she needs to wake up the sleeping beauty, and hopefully Luna will teach her to use her alien powers.

Now a negative point that I can't ignore is that the quality of the scenes are tremendously mediocre, it hurts me in my heart that a story that I like has visual errors like this.

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Tell me I'm crazy but it looks like Luna is bigger than the man in the last scene or the guy shrunk, it looks really strange, so much so that it makes me raise my eyebrows in shock.

Anyway it's something I needed to get off my chest to be at peace with myself, I love Luna and her story with all its mistakes and flaws.

Eh, the strength of the Luna games has never really been the visual story telling. Every now and again Frozen Synapse will bust out some cool or interesting blocking and staging (think the truck scene in LFFG), but it's usually simple, often repetitive, poses in shot reverse shot. Even the attack on the jail was fairly boring visually speaking, and that's supposed to be a big climatic scene and presumably the close of the first, arguably second, act.

 

[LoveWhores]

Buddy, you've been told before (and not just by me) that you're missing the whole basic point of the game because you haven't played the canon BadAss bitch route. It's all explained there. No one cares who Luna was in the beginning...I remember that mobster and uncle who “took care” of her. But that has nothing to do with divinity and everything else.

Sure, Luna is an ordinary human, not a goddess, but there was a secret organization whose goal was to gain immortality by trying to somehow contact the divine plane of existence and gain the powers of goddesses. Luna was connected to this as the daughter of one of the scientists working on this secret project. I don't remember all the nuances, but the LFFG explains in some detail how it came to be that the Luna was chosen by the sleeping Goddesses for their physical incarnation.

My point is that Luna isn't a goddess! You say she is a goddess and i try to explain to you she is not! If you play from the begginning of the first game Luna's Fall From Grace and look carefully you will see that there was a explaining from the past - twelve years ago Luna's father Joe "Headshot" Rossi was explainig to one of his friends Tom that he wants to bring Lisa,Luna's mother back and thats why if he needs he will even sacrifice his own daughter Luna in the process - some treatment he decide to do to Luna by using the experimental drug Tom was already been stold from the Company! Tom warned Headshot for the consequences and that this may mess forever with Luna's head but Headshot didn't listen him and sayed there's no other way! He believes his wife Lisa wasn't ordinary girl and has some supernatural powers and since Luna is hers daughter and has the same blood he can use that to bring Lisa back inside Luna by possessing her and clearly that's what really happened to Luna in the first game and that's why she has split personality that makes her crazy and messes with hers head,not because she is a goddess! Tom also tried to explain to Headshot that this supernatural powers Lisa was having was side effect of the experimental drug(clearly she uses it too before she die)! The other thing you can see a little bit before that "past" it's that Tanisha brings Luna to Hellions shaman Nana and Nana uses hers shaman powers on Luna and told her there are two personalities inside her - obviously talking about hers mother successfully possessing Luna after the treatment used on her from hers father or that the drug was really messed her head and instead really bringing her mother inside Luna made Luna suffer from split personality and acting like crazy(and may be that kind of magic or whatever power is it from the shaman also increases hers madness more,that is not sure)! In any case Luna is not a goddess but a human and like i sayed before,after so many years passed away from the first game,there's not chance the first Luna is alive except if not been put into crio-camera like Diatima or if she is alive she will be really old and that's exactly why that new Luna can't be the Luna from the first game! She may also be possessed but there's not really possible that the first Luna survive after decades and didn't even changed since she is just a human and was not put to sleep into crio-camera or anything like that! Do you understand what i mean now? You even sayed it by yourself here that Luna is just a human,so i guess you finally see what exactly i'm talking about and trying to explain,right? Perhaps the Raven is actually Luna's mother and she wasn't just messed with the drug but really did has some supernatural powers like that shaman Nana and Headshoot's treatment on his own daughter Luna with the drug was successfull and really mange to bring Lisa back and make her possess Luna's body,but also messes with her head and may be now Luna or Lisa manage to possess another girl (may be called once again Luna or either maiking her believe hers name is Luna - after all the girl didn't remember anything and barely remembered hers name after been find by the Hellions)!Not to mention no one still knows how that new Luna happens to be there - perhaps someone did the same experimental treatment with the drugs on her as Luna's father and she somehow manage to escape but collapse there? Perhaps the old Luna may also be used as part of the experiment and that's why now the new Luna is also possessed? May be she is even the daughter of the original Luna and if someone used the same experimental treatment on her as Headshot on his own daughter,may be that's why it was also successfull and now the first Luna possess the new one's body just like her own mother with her before? Guess we will need to wait a bit to find out if the new Luna is the daughter of the previous one or just a girl that was also possessed by the Raven after the same experiment with the first Luna(probably at first was Luna's mother Lisa was Raven and later happens that Luna take hers mother place or Lisa is still the Raven)!

 

[Birdnman993]

My point is that Luna isn't a goddess! You say she is a goddess and i try to explain to you she is not! If you play from the begginning of the first game Luna's Fall From Grace and look carefully you will see that there was a explaining from the past - twelve years ago Luna's father Joe "Headshot" Rossi was explainig to one of his friends Tom that he wants to bring Lisa,Luna's mother back and thats why if he needs he will even sacrifice his own daughter Luna in the process - some treatment he decide to do to Luna by using the experimental drug Tom was already been stold from the Company! Tom warned Headshot for the consequences and that this may mess forever with Luna's head but Headshot didn't listen him and sayed there's no other way! He believes his wife Lisa wasn't ordinary girl and has some supernatural powers and since Luna is hers daughter and has the same blood he can use that to bring Lisa back inside Luna by possessing her and clearly that's what really happened to Luna in the first game and that's why she has split personality that makes her crazy and messes with hers head,not because she is a goddess! Tom also tried to explain to Headshot that this supernatural powers Lisa was having was side effect of the experimental drug(clearly she uses it too before she die)! The other thing you can see a little bit before that "past" it's that Tanisha brings Luna to Hellions shaman Nana and Nana uses hers shaman powers on Luna and told her there are two personalities inside her - obviously talking about hers mother successfully possessing Luna after the treatment used on her from hers father or that the drug was really messed her head and instead really bringing her mother inside Luna made Luna suffer from split personality and acting like crazy(and may be that kind of magic or whatever power is it from the shaman also increases hers madness more,that is not sure)! In any case Luna is not a goddess but a human and like i sayed before,after so many years passed away from the first game,there's not chance the first Luna is alive except if not been put into crio-camera like Diatima or if she is alive she will be really old and that's exactly why that new Luna can't be the Luna from the first game! She may also be possessed but there's not really possible that the first Luna survive after decades and didn't even changed since she is just a human and was not put to sleep into crio-camera or anything like that! Do you understand what i mean now? You even sayed it by yourself here that Luna is just a human,so i guess you finally see what exactly i'm talking about and trying to explain,right? Perhaps the Raven is actually Luna's mother and she wasn't just messed with the drug but really did has some supernatural powers like that shaman Nana and Headshoot's treatment on his own daughter Luna with the drug was successfull and really mange to bring Lisa back and make her possess Luna's body,but also messes with her head and may be now Luna or Lisa manage to possess another girl (may be called once again Luna or either maiking her believe hers name is Luna - after all the girl didn't remember anything and barely remembered hers name after been find by the Hellions)!Not to mention no one still knows how that new Luna happens to be there - perhaps someone did the same experimental treatment with the drugs on her as Luna's father and she somehow manage to escape but collapse there? Perhaps the old Luna may also be used as part of the experiment and that's why now the new Luna is also possessed? May be she is even the daughter of the original Luna and if someone used the same experimental treatment on her as Headshot on his own daughter,may be that's why it was also successfull and now the first Luna possess the new one's body just like her own mother with her before? Guess we will need to wait a bit to find out if the new Luna is the daughter of the previous one or just a girl that was also possessed by the Raven after the same experiment with the first Luna(probably at first was Luna's mother Lisa was Raven and later happens that Luna take hers mother place or Lisa is still the Raven)!

What a bad way to understand such a simple story.

 

[gregers]

Fuckin' Enter keys, how do they work?

 

[Stan5851]

My point is that Luna isn't a goddess! You say she is a goddess and i try to explain to you she is not! If you play from the begginning of the first game Luna's Fall From Grace and look carefully you will see that there was a explaining from the past - twelve years ago Luna's father Joe "Headshot" Rossi was explainig to one of his friends Tom that he wants to bring Lisa,Luna's mother back and thats why if he needs he will even sacrifice his own daughter Luna in the process - some treatment he decide to do to Luna by using the experimental drug Tom was already been stold from the Company! Tom warned Headshot for the consequences and that this may mess forever with Luna's head but Headshot didn't listen him and sayed there's no other way! He believes his wife Lisa wasn't ordinary girl and has some supernatural powers and since Luna is hers daughter and has the same blood he can use that to bring Lisa back inside Luna by possessing her and clearly that's what really happened to Luna in the first game and that's why she has split personality that makes her crazy and messes with hers head,not because she is a goddess! Tom also tried to explain to Headshot that this supernatural powers Lisa was having was side effect of the experimental drug(clearly she uses it too before she die)! The other thing you can see a little bit before that "past" it's that Tanisha brings Luna to Hellions shaman Nana and Nana uses hers shaman powers on Luna and told her there are two personalities inside her - obviously talking about hers mother successfully possessing Luna after the treatment used on her from hers father or that the drug was really messed her head and instead really bringing her mother inside Luna made Luna suffer from split personality and acting like crazy(and may be that kind of magic or whatever power is it from the shaman also increases hers madness more,that is not sure)! In any case Luna is not a goddess but a human and like i sayed before,after so many years passed away from the first game,there's not chance the first Luna is alive except if not been put into crio-camera like Diatima or if she is alive she will be really old and that's exactly why that new Luna can't be the Luna from the first game! She may also be possessed but there's not really possible that the first Luna survive after decades and didn't even changed since she is just a human and was not put to sleep into crio-camera or anything like that! Do you understand what i mean now? You even sayed it by yourself here that Luna is just a human,so i guess you finally see what exactly i'm talking about and trying to explain,right? Perhaps the Raven is actually Luna's mother and she wasn't just messed with the drug but really did has some supernatural powers like that shaman Nana and Headshoot's treatment on his own daughter Luna with the drug was successfull and really mange to bring Lisa back and make her possess Luna's body,but also messes with her head and may be now Luna or Lisa manage to possess another girl (may be called once again Luna or either maiking her believe hers name is Luna - after all the girl didn't remember anything and barely remembered hers name after been find by the Hellions)!Not to mention no one still knows how that new Luna happens to be there - perhaps someone did the same experimental treatment with the drugs on her as Luna's father and she somehow manage to escape but collapse there? Perhaps the old Luna may also be used as part of the experiment and that's why now the new Luna is also possessed? May be she is even the daughter of the original Luna and if someone used the same experimental treatment on her as Headshot on his own daughter,may be that's why it was also successfull and now the first Luna possess the new one's body just like her own mother with her before? Guess we will need to wait a bit to find out if the new Luna is the daughter of the previous one or just a girl that was also possessed by the Raven after the same experiment with the first Luna(probably at first was Luna's mother Lisa was Raven and later happens that Luna take hers mother place or Lisa is still the Raven)!

Even the developer himself wrote that it's the same character (Luna from "LFFG" and Luna from "Luna Reloaded" and the only difference is that in the new game she is initially weakened and still lacks those supernatural powers that she had in the canon BadAss bitch ending of LFFG). There is no split personality, no schizophrenic Luna, but rather divine entities with supernatural powers and a human Luna who (at the player's choice) can voluntarily accept one of these divine Entities and merge with it, gaining great power.

The main canon ending of the game is Goddess Raven's triumph, where she actually uses her supernatural arsenal, and many dozens of her enemies have the misfortune to experience it on their own skin. And this is neither fantasy nor schizophrenia, but the very real reality.



P.S. Anyway, you can stop writing me your tons of bullshit anymore, I've added you to my blacklist.

 

[GokutheG]

My point is that Luna isn't a goddess! You say she is a goddess and i try to explain to you she is not! If you play from the begginning of the first game Luna's Fall From Grace and look carefully you will see that there was a explaining from the past - twelve years ago Luna's father Joe "Headshot" Rossi was explainig to one of his friends Tom that he wants to bring Lisa,Luna's mother back and thats why if he needs he will even sacrifice his own daughter Luna in the process - some treatment he decide to do to Luna by using the experimental drug Tom was already been stold from the Company! Tom warned Headshot for the consequences and that this may mess forever with Luna's head but Headshot didn't listen him and sayed there's no other way! He believes his wife Lisa wasn't ordinary girl and has some supernatural powers and since Luna is hers daughter and has the same blood he can use that to bring Lisa back inside Luna by possessing her and clearly that's what really happened to Luna in the first game and that's why she has split personality that makes her crazy and messes with hers head,not because she is a goddess! Tom also tried to explain to Headshot that this supernatural powers Lisa was having was side effect of the experimental drug(clearly she uses it too before she die)! The other thing you can see a little bit before that "past" it's that Tanisha brings Luna to Hellions shaman Nana and Nana uses hers shaman powers on Luna and told her there are two personalities inside her - obviously talking about hers mother successfully possessing Luna after the treatment used on her from hers father or that the drug was really messed her head and instead really bringing her mother inside Luna made Luna suffer from split personality and acting like crazy(and may be that kind of magic or whatever power is it from the shaman also increases hers madness more,that is not sure)! In any case Luna is not a goddess but a human and like i sayed before,after so many years passed away from the first game,there's not chance the first Luna is alive except if not been put into crio-camera like Diatima or if she is alive she will be really old and that's exactly why that new Luna can't be the Luna from the first game! She may also be possessed but there's not really possible that the first Luna survive after decades and didn't even changed since she is just a human and was not put to sleep into crio-camera or anything like that! Do you understand what i mean now? You even sayed it by yourself here that Luna is just a human,so i guess you finally see what exactly i'm talking about and trying to explain,right? Perhaps the Raven is actually Luna's mother and she wasn't just messed with the drug but really did has some supernatural powers like that shaman Nana and Headshoot's treatment on his own daughter Luna with the drug was successfull and really mange to bring Lisa back and make her possess Luna's body,but also messes with her head and may be now Luna or Lisa manage to possess another girl (may be called once again Luna or either maiking her believe hers name is Luna - after all the girl didn't remember anything and barely remembered hers name after been find by the Hellions)!Not to mention no one still knows how that new Luna happens to be there - perhaps someone did the same experimental treatment with the drugs on her as Luna's father and she somehow manage to escape but collapse there? Perhaps the old Luna may also be used as part of the experiment and that's why now the new Luna is also possessed? May be she is even the daughter of the original Luna and if someone used the same experimental treatment on her as Headshot on his own daughter,may be that's why it was also successfull and now the first Luna possess the new one's body just like her own mother with her before? Guess we will need to wait a bit to find out if the new Luna is the daughter of the previous one or just a girl that was also possessed by the Raven after the same experiment with the first Luna(probably at first was Luna's mother Lisa was Raven and later happens that Luna take hers mother place or Lisa is still the Raven)!

You really need to go back and replay the game on the non sub route. It's explained on the badass and hero routes that Luna is the vessel to a goddess. The "Luna" you see during the Nana trip is the godess that's possessing her and the spirit that Nana talks about. If you follow either of those endings you'll see that she becomes extremely powerful much more than if she was just a mortal with split personality. You'll also learn that the drug was developed by people who wanted to bring the goddess back.

 

[LoveWhores]

You really need to go back and replay the game on the non sub route. It's explained on the badass and hero routes that Luna is the vessel to a goddess. The "Luna" you see during the Nana trip is the godess that's possessing her and the spirit that Nana talks about. If you follow either of those endings you'll see that she becomes extremely powerful much more than if she was just a mortal with split personality. You'll also learn that the drug was developed by people who wanted to bring the goddess back.

Do you realize that you've just confirm what i already sayed and that's the fact Luna is not a goddess but it's just possessed?

 

[jallawat128]

Do you realize that you've just confirm what i already sayed and that's the fact Luna is not a goddess but it's just possessed?

Just play the Bad Ass Route and you will see that she merged in the End with the Bad Ass Godess Raven. In the End she WAS the Raven Godess on that Route also she was the Hero Godess on the Hero Route in the End what simply explains her Immortality in Case of Age.