ash996

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Is it necessary to replay the second season or can you watch the new scenes in the gallery without losing plot information for the third season?
 

cleanfeel

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Jun 16, 2017
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Yeah, thanks for that comment
For sure we are not trying to please everyone, I'm here just to listen to the opinions. If someone said "you guys did bad animation/storyline/dialogue/anything in scene XXX" we probably just skip it, but if 10 pple said that - that is the reason to double-check again and if possible improve\change it.
That's why feedback always matters, but it should be constructive, otherwise, we just can't get what should be improved. (not talking about you, just some other comments)
In the spirit of constructive feedback, here's mine:

If 10 people say a scene looks bad, don't redo it. It's not worth it. A game of this type is a medium to tell a story. Making a particular scene better animated, better lighting, different word in dialog, etc is a waste of development time. Spelling mistakes, sure. Spend 5 minutes fixing it max. New dialog, new scene, new animations, new cum stains? Fuck no.

I believe developers who spend months remastering the game because when I started I didn't know what I was doing!" is purely trolling and milking for more money. Be more like Eva Kiss. Eva Kiss just makes another game and improves upon the first, not go back and redo her earlier works.
 

Talmadge

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May 7, 2018
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Okay. I'm a little lost. Is there an update to seasons 2 and 3, or just to season 3? It makes it sound to me like there is one to both seasons, and want to know rather I need to update both, or just the one. Thanks!
 

Bear in the Night

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Dec 16, 2019
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Okay, here is something you hopefully consider constructive and useful: you have not properly integrated the narrative with the sandbox mode. You cannot have (almost) complete freedom alongside optional story chains that significantly change the status quo.

I complained about the inconsistencies in the writing about the family before, and it's the most obvious symptom of not reconciling the freedom to choose stories with stories that affect the narrative.

If you go through all of Ashley's content in S2, she reveals that one of the major reasons she ran off with the guy (who turned out to be a monster) is that Don was sexually harassing her. That is a Big Deal. This revelation significantly alters the family dynamic, but it's optional. If you don't go through all of her content, then as far as the player is concerned the only reason Ashley ran off is because she's dumb and got catfished.

Now this is pure conjecture, but it seems to me that since the interactions with the family as a whole is almost entirely done through the linear VN style introduction/ending segments, in order to accomodate those who may have ignored Ashley's content you basically pretend the relevation never happened. That works fine for the players who never got the relevation, but makes no sense for those who learned that Ashley is wary of Don because he has been sexually harassing her. (Also Sam's relationship with Don is fine, but when they meet up she says nothing about how he's been hospitalized with a heart attack? Like if my dad had a heart attack while I was at university, it would certainly be something I'd address when I went home for the summer.)

Another obvious example of this disconnect between the narrative and the sandbox mode are those parties, after visiting Dale. Like you cum in Molly on the weekend, but aren't anywhere near that intimate in the actual story with her. I appreciate being able to have sex with Molly because I like her, but it's very strange in terms of story.

Complete freedom requires you to check which optional content has been accessed, and have different scenes that account for those choices. That is difficult and a lot of extra work. Most sandboxes tend to make more useful of progression gates that require you to advance to certain stages in otherwise optional story chains, which ensures that every player knows important information about the story. That allows for consistency in the narrative, because you don't have to care about "oh but what if the player didn't do <optional content>?"
Hey!
Thanks :), I'll send it to our Writers and GD
We will check these things and try to fix it
 

Bear in the Night

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In the spirit of constructive feedback, here's mine:

If 10 people say a scene looks bad, don't redo it. It's not worth it. A game of this type is a medium to tell a story. Making a particular scene better animated, better lighting, different word in dialog, etc is a waste of development time. Spelling mistakes, sure. Spend 5 minutes fixing it max. New dialog, new scene, new animations, new cum stains? Fuck no.

I believe developers who spend months remastering the game because when I started I didn't know what I was doing!" is purely trolling and milking for more money. Be more like Eva Kiss. Eva Kiss just makes another game and improves upon the first, not go back and redo her earlier works.
M...thanks for your feedback :)
Here is yes and no. If something is completely bad, it's better to redo the things (if we have enough resources for that and it won't significantly reduce development speed), because it can be a game-stopper for a large group.
 
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fishbrain

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Apr 9, 2018
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Is the new content for S2 only in sandbox mode? I didn't think the changelog was clear on that.

The same question is above. Can you provide more feedback about S3, why do you think it's "crappy"?
First I'll say renders are really good and animations are great!! As far as season 3 for me personally, I didn't think introducing new characters was necessary. At this point I'm locked in on who I want to spend time with, and basically zipping through those I don't. That said I don't know how much longer this will be and I typically assume by this point it's starting to wind down a bit and getting close to the finish so bringing in several new characters just slows development. Overall I'm still a big fan, the story isn't so boring and dragging on to the point that I feel the need to run through dialogue and I'm not usually into the magic/fantasy type games so that's an accomplishment in itself.
 

Garybaldi

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I can't get any of the unseen scenes from 2 or 3 working even with the gallery unlockers and mods - any suggestions for what I may be doing wrong?
 

Sylaann

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The blue haired girl is borring as fuck... who in her right mind join a school of sorcery to spend all her days locked up in her room playing video games.

I'm a gamer/geek too but i don't have magic, she prefer to play sorcerer in an mmo to have the higehst dps when she can have it irl that doesn't make sens (And how is she not expelled spending all her afternoon playing video games when 1st years have potion classroom in the afternoon???).
 

Lorion2k20

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Dec 25, 2020
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Changelog - Season 2 1.12.1d said:
Majorly rewritten and proofread dialogues
Fooled me with this one. ;)

Theres still obvious stuff like "(It seems to be a difficult book. I'll go and help her.)" in there. Amelie is carrying a heavy book in this scene. Same event: "Would you be me, if I told you, that ..." where be should be believe (and maybe interpunction, no native english speaker myself).

And overall super cringy dialogues:

Molly afterparty scene:

MC: Yeah!
MC: Molly...
MC: Yes, yes, yes!
MC: And one more time!

...while shes blowing him.

Molly: I'm already flowing with impatience.
MC: That's great!
MC: What a beautiful ass you have!
Molly: I have an ass and you have me, ha-ha!
MC: Its about that.
...
MC: I'm about to cum!
MC: What a buzz!
MC: Now I'm trembling myself.
Molly: Yeah!
MC: And one more time!
MC: There we go ...
Molly: MC...
MC: You are my wonderful...
Molly: Wow! That was really cool.

Is this supposed to turn you on? Quite the opposite.

And I remember when it finally got serious with Sabrina... the awkward and cringy dialogue with baby here and babe there ruined the whole experience for me. :(

But don't get me wrong. Overall I really like the game. The girls are cute and hot, the main- and sidestories are interesting enough. I like the sandbox and minigames. But those super badly written dialogues (grammar and content wise) are a huge turn off!

So *please* find at least a sufficiently educated native english speaker to do the proofreading to get rid of the bad translation. Best would obviously be a experienced native english writer.

Cause at the moment the bad translation and writing pulls the game way down even though it could be one of the best porn games (in my opinion at least).
 
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