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BDI123

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I have a problem with getting stuck in the witches house and not being able to get out, I can click on the icon on the left that says that I have to go but just stays there
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Immunity

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So he finally bent a knee...just like everyone else. Disappointing. And what makes it even worse is how cocky he got a few releases back, when instead of making a patch for it (like any rational developer now'a'days does), he was going to "leave it in until they force him to take it out". So now, they've forced him, and the fans are left with squat. What a shame - the concept had potential.
 

pingp

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So Mom and sis became the Emma and Kelly ? Is that mean the most storyline will be chenged?

"I found a Mother and her daughter and I decided to fuck them all"?
 

Tyrranus

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nice, he lost the incest thats a good thing :D
no seriously... Im kinda sick of all the 9bazillion fucking games that have to incorporate incest flooding the damned h-game market.

now the fact that he did fuckall else and still took super long..... thats pretty shitty

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amusing already seen 2 spots where 'sister' and 'mom' are still referenced

also if anyone is interested the variable names havent changed
 

bobdillan

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Yeah, he should have left the game as it was and then have Patreon shut his account down removing his source of income. But he didn't, what a dick.

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you can simply change it to patreon is to support the creator and give access to games you make elsewhere like a thread or something. since then you are no longer producing incest content on patreon, it is to support you as a creator not your content and patreon technically can't go after people for that because they are not breaking the rules as they are not giving out that content on the page. an example of this would be dating my daughter and how it is now its own website not on patreon.
That being said you would be giving your game out for free and well those greedy for money don't do this. or they could just have an "unofficial" incest patch like almost every other now "non incest" game has done. but hey if the main audience for this game doesn't care then i guess it doesn't matter, although i do believe that the main point of this from the begging was supposed to be about incest sooo :|

Anyway my personal opinion is well meh since I thought the art was okay, but didn't care for the story or the gameplay really, so for me it is just one less game to play out of the filling harddrive of porn games that I have to play (not to mention double ups because of updates) never thought i would miss the days of spending 3-6 hours every 2-4 days with updates then having days of just nothing to play cause i already played them. now it is I got 20 games i can play hmmmm which one? o look another 10 games were updated that i would play.
 
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bstr2k2

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Yeah, he should have left the game as it was and then have Patreon shut his account down removing his source of income. But he didn't, what a dick.

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and there is another way to earn money of a game. there is still PayPal u can use to get donations.
but when i look at the prices for the various pateron levels in context to new content its obviously scam.
pledging for two month alone and you can buy any top game on steam.
 

bstr2k2

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edit:
amusing already seen 2 spots where 'sister' and 'mom' are still referenced
also if anyone is interested the variable names havent changed
his editor must be from the 80s ... no search and replace in a whole project ... how pityful
 

Pretentious Goblin

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I'm not a patron but I think I'd be mildly disappointed by the update. Retooling the game to remove the incest; no new H-content with any of the existing characters; and the addition of another lecherous and immature ''character'', as if MC wasn't bad enough. Well, at least they progressed the gameplay a little bit. Wonder how far into the game this is now.
 

JohnnyMarco

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Listen, I will write here assuming the developers read this forum.

The game is really good, but it can be improved a lot if you change some things on the story... You may think I'm just a random guy who does not support you with money, but hear me out please.

I don't think removing the incest is a big problem for this game, MC relationship with his mother and sister was already too strange before and I think making him a strange to the girls opens an even better oportunity for the plot, because now as they are not part of his family he can be much rougher with them demanding for services in exchange for his protection, but for that you must change the way both girls behave towards him.

The problem is both are very submissive since the start, they understand too fast the bad situation they are in and submit very fast, they need to resist more, and by resisting I don't mean only complaining in dialogue, but through actions.

At 1st they shouldn't bow to any of his demands, they should stand defiant and force MC to really show he is boss through his actions. Like, at first they should act as if it is his duty to bring them food, this way they do not bow to any of his demands, so he is forced to stop giving them food to make them compliant. I can even see an event with Kelly going out of the house to get food herself and almost getting raped by a demon, being saved by the MC.

and the addition of another lecherous and immature ''character'', as if MC wasn't bad enough.
I have to agree here, the shadow guy makes an already goofy MC look even goofier, it also breaks the flow of dialogues... On my personal opinion if you had made a MC which were more respectable with a real "dark" personality it would be better for the plot, but I understand that's how you made him be, however his shadow is very stupid and ads nothing... Too bad it seems you've wasted a lot of development time on it...

The game has potential, end of incest is not really a problem on my personal opinion, it may even be an opportunity to make the story better.

his editor must be from the 80s ... no search and replace in a whole project ... how pityful
I remember way back in the 80's MS-DOS text editor already had these tools... MS-Basic already had it then too if I quite remember my school days...
 

camoway

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after playing it in the last version to end I simply don't want to NOT cheat. I have already grinded and only want to see the new content. that is all..... putting anti cheat just take this game from cool to not cool. we always always always always always always always always get around the system and do what we are going to do anyway. You are just hurting new of less dedicated hackers and your fanbase. I hope everyone see's the anti-cheat as a challenge that needs to simply be patched.
 

1zaza1

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I would say the worst part in this realease is the lack of progression with any of the main characters.
Exactly. Not hating the new Demonhunters angle (opens up some possible bondage angles), and it's good that there are more uses for earlier almost useless items like batteries and alcohol, but there's no story progression at all.
 

TCMS

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:pokerFace: I just now noticed I never actually uploaded the Anti-cheat removal file that works across versions... z.z I'll do that now. (will edit this post with link when done)

Edit: Updated the link in the OP. Here's the post. This will work for any future versions!

 

Delmach

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I don't think removing the incest is a big problem for this game, MC relationship with his mother and sister was already too strange before and I think making him a strange to the girls opens an even better oportunity for the plot, because now as they are not part of his family he can be much rougher with them demanding for services in exchange for his protection, but for that you must change the way both girls behave towards him.
The game has potential, end of incest is not really a problem on my personal opinion, it may even be an opportunity to make the story better.
You might be fine with removing incest, saying it may even be an opportunity to "make the story better", but its still censorship, and even worse, its self-censorship before he even had to act. And while your ideas would indeed fit with the game theme and name better, as in really taking advantage of the power, taking it too far could also get you in trouble. And honestly, theres no reason to not just have the same ideas under the old story, the family members could just act more defiant and it can still all take place.

And while I have yet to see a game being reviewed and deemed as too "hard to distinguish from non-consensual", taking it even further, like the sentence you wrote that I highlighted, could actually land the developer a review there as well.

Sadly it sounds like a mine field that some developers have to tread through, and adding the fact that we are talking about fiction/fantasy makes it even worse. Especially since fictional characters can basically never consensually agree or disagree, they have no will, they dont exist.
 

JohnnyMarco

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If a fucking demon is gonna rape you and someone saves you, you sure as hell gonna be submissive
You're underestimating the level of entitlement people have these days, not everyone acts rationally, and in fact most of the people don't. There's also those who have principles and wouldn't give up on them easily, even in the face of danger...

Hell, there are some people who wouldn't give up their principles even under torture... but those wouldn't fit very well as characters for a porn game, unless it is one about extreme BDSM, blood, death and gore...

And this is not just something out of anime stuff... I mean, just watch The Walking Dead... the level of entitlement of that people is outrageous!

You might be fine with removing incest, saying it may even be an opportunity to "make the story better", but its still censorship
I agree with you, I really hate this patreon censorship and had already an heated debate about this on another thread. But, as I said, the problem is in this game the incest really didn't add much, and in fact it is getting in the way of the story because the MC has to withold his dominant self with his family, and yet they easily agree to his demands like some submissive sluts.

If, however, they were more like entitled bitches they behaviour could trigger the MC's anger and switch his dominant self on with them... Yet for that there should be some reason for him to hate them(just like the MC in Waifu Academy, he hates his mother and sister because they abandomned him and his father in the past), if he really loves his mother and sister he wouldn't be mean to them, and wouldn't even do the things he does in the game, like forcing them to fuck him for food...

That's why I say he has a weird behaviour with them, they don't look like they are his family at all, he just treats them as random bitches, so there is really no point in keeping the incest... in my opinion.

And while I have yet to see a game being reviewed and deemed as too "hard to distinguish from non-consensual", taking it even further, like the sentence you wrote that I highlighted, could actually land the developer a review there as well.
This solely depends upon the writer's competence, he could easily make the girls so bitchy to be outright wrong in their behaviour, giving thus the MC moral grounds to be rough, and later they would just need to humble out of desperation and ask for his protection.

And, of course, games like Kangoku Senkan don't give a fuck about consensual sex...
 
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