This game has been remade 7 times. Every time the same content is re-added. Sad but true.
We still have some content no available from past. If I recall correctly we had 5 girls done and an new one coming.
We still have some content no available from past. If I recall correctly we had 5 girls done and an new one coming.
Okay. Version 0.37 was the most completed before the dev stated to rebuild the infrastructure of the game. Since then he has only re-added what he'd taken out. Yes he is going damn slow about it but he has been adding other things while doing the rebuild.
When were the other 6 time he shut down and restarted from scratch?
When were the other 6 time he shut down and restarted from scratch?
People are just venting, let them vent, plus it's funny when they exaggerate. It's going to be the 12th remake soon
That's the scary thing about it. He/she probably thinks their exaggerations are all facts and can not be contested. That just weakens their argument/complaint to the point that it's just sad.People are just venting, let them vent, plus it's funny when they exaggerate. It's going to be the 12th remake soon
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Yea, there is "going slow" and then there is "rebooted the game 7 times".
This dev thinks he is marvel because he keeps on rebooting his franchise. But at least marvel finishes a few movies / games before the reboot.
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The game has not been remade several times for fuck's sake! People love to exaggerate and think the dev milking his own game, calling him a scammer which is hilarious. If you don't want to support his game then don't subscribe to his Patreon page and don't download the game at all and just move on. Like Barkin 10 said that v0.37 was the most completed of the game before the dev started rebuilding the game at v0.40 and onwards in each update which is only one time not several times and his original game was "The Dark Prince" which he abandoned years ago then he moved on to "Lust and Power". Yes he slowly rebuilding the game, restoring old content and adding new content at the same time. I have a great suggestion for you go play other games here then come back later when everything is almost restored and yeah it might take Lurking Hedgehog a few more years or more until he gets there. Yeah it might be a long painful wait or otherwise don't come back and move on.
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It was.
dev rebooted to add incest, then rebooted to remove incest, then rebooted to add incest again.
so that is at least 4 versions (counting the original too) already.
plus he might have done more reboots before or after. info gets sketchy.
on the reboot to remove incest, you were not related at all to mom and sister.
instead the story was
> your family sold their ancestral home.
> you start getting weird magic stuff.
> you travel back to your home town and break into your ancestral home. where you find grandpa's ghost in the basement
> then demons happen, so you end up being the protector of this random unrelated woman and her daughter who now own that house.
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Firstly that's not rebooting or remaking the game but just removing and re-adding some content and secondly the incest content was removed once then added back in a later update which was v0.40 and has been onwards in every update since. I know it was removed before v0.37 but don't remember which update it was removed in but it only has been removed one time which was it, not multiple times and and there used to be an incest patch/mod for the game for a while before it was fully re-added back into the game. I have downloaded and played every update from v0.17b (back in 2018 and might even had earlier updates but I think I deleted them) to v0.67 which I have all on one of my external drives.
Here's a screenshot where the incest option is available and again it has been in every update since v0.40.
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Stop wasting your time on your alt account defending your failure of a game and instead focus on making it less of a failure. Seriously... Think how much dialogue likes could be written or sex sceens made, even more with help of AI and added to the game instead of writting a poem everyone is going to, once again, laugh at.
You think this is Lurking Hedgehog's alternate account?
I don't think I've seen Lurking Hedgehog's main account to have an alternate account on f95
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In each such change I have personally seen, the dev removed all the content and then drip fed it back over years
For it to not be a reboot dev would have needed to do:
> New version changes dialog to make it not incest. all the content remains
but no, he did an outright reboot each time.
That crap was done because Patreon was coming down hard on incest at the time. It affected a lot of devs and artists at the time. Summertime Saga for instance. No one complained about it there then because they were all use to having to start over each update.
The sketchy part is the difference between a rebuild and a reboot.
The "reboot" adds or takes out some things with no changes to the main structure of the game.
The rebuild takes everything out to have its code rewritten so it works with the new structure.
Now if you want to say the game has been "rebooted" 7 times that could be fair.
Rebuilt isn't.
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Since he started remaking the game, has anything new been added to the story or nothing? Are there any interactions with the main villain with white hair? (I don’t remember her name, but I’m waiting for the MC to start attacking her holes).
Well... It's not like I have a proof of it, but his fierce resistance and, I would say even delusional, faith in this failure of, back then, a nicely upcoming title makes him either a bitter developer wasting his time defending his title instead of fixing it or a hardcore fanatic trying to convince others (but mostly himself) that he surely didn't waste over 7 years of his life and money supporting this title for nothing.
Well, he certainly doesn't have an account on F95zone, that's for sure. Having it under such nickname would be rather... suicidal idea. But having an account with an alternative, different nickname, would be great enough to avoid direct backlash while also having an option to engage with "the haters".I don't think I've seen Lurking Hedgehog's main account to have an alternate account on f95
OK, let's put the tin foil conspiracy theory to rest.
Dark Lord Nova is a fan and long term supporter of the game, it is thanks to him that f95 has the game on the site.
There are fans of the game so you will see people defending the game that they like, it doesn't make these "Lurking Hedgehog's alternate accounts".
Now, I agree that the content removal was unnecessary, but there is improvements to the game play in the remake and it plays smoother and flows better.
If you don't like the game it's probably better to move on to another as there's no point in making yourself upset and make wild accusations about other users.
The key moment here I think is author vision. If author want things to be removed or or re-done he righteously can do it. It not just prerogative but also duty. Otherwise you stop being a creator.
Eh. Well, I just hope that all these incest thing was dev's personal taste, not just attempt to get some more donation milk.
Eh. Well, I just hope that all these incest thing was dev's personal taste, not just attempt to get some more donation milk.
There's nothing wrong with liking the game and having and defending your opinion about it. If you're a fan of such title and can look past many shortcomings nobody is going to hold a grudge against you for doing so.
But if you are defending a title with fanatical faith and you are seeing every negative opinion followed by valid arguments as lies or even a single negative word about your beloved title, then you are sadly not a fan (which is rather positive term), but truly a fanatic instead (rather negative description of a person from which "fan" comes).
It ain't your job to defend the game. It's developer's job. But not by writting poems about how great game is, not by making empty promises, but by creating game good enough so it can simply defend itself with it's content.
Therefore, Dark Lord Nova ain't a fan. If he ain't hedgehog under different username, then surely he is a fanatic.
While writting this I looked at Hedgehog patreon. He's having right now 3,659 members, with 557 paying ones and is earning 10.850 $ per month. Lowest pay in Germany is around 1500 €, while average is around 4000 €.
It is around 9900 € per month for a game being over seven years in development. A game which still ain't in the place it was before. A game with updates so small you can't really even call them updates.
Deveopers with less income, deveopers with jobs, those making thier games as hobby projects are making greater updates within a month than hedgehog within a year.
So no, I'm not making a simple assumptions. I am rather stating a hypothesis.
A hypotesis that this game is but on a loop of reboot just to milk and milk those fanatics and believers out of money by providing small updates to keep thier hopes up and nova is either creator himself wasting his time having a blast arguing or a fanatic who prefers to be fanatical believer who can't admit he was tricked and wasted quite huge portion of his life and money on a game which never will be finished.
Holly molly, I'm not reading that wall of text.
Basically, vent all you want but keep it civil and don't throw around accusations.
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I'm no fanatic and I'm certainly not Lurking Hedgehog. I would appreciate that you would not throw around an accusation about me which is not true and can we please keep it really civil here. Yeah I might be a fan and long term supporter of this game but I'm not a major fan or fanatic that you're accusing me of. I already lost some interest of this game anyways because the dev taking forever and I changed my tier down to $1 a while ago. I found a lot more interesting games here on F95 and some of them I also support. Yeah a lot of the content removal might have been unnecessary I get that but there has been some improvements to the game and the game might still has bugs in it so what. If you have issues with this game and hate it then good for you. Move on.