lud dud

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Hello, I'm new here. Is my game ruined? I can't progress in Harmonia because I can't find any ways to earn gold. "Working" in the Panda Inn always says there's no one interested. Am I doing something wrong?
Honestly, just use the cheat menu to give yourself a ton of gold. The currency grinds in this game are horribly unbalanced nonsense. All of the links I posted a few pages back are the (more expensive) meta-human version, so the cheats are included.

If you really don't want to cheat, I think there are some painfully tedious ways to make the money, like setting up Rylan to whore himself out, or the goblin minigame. But honestly, just cheat. The economy in this game is horrible, and I think it's intentional because they want people to pay extra for the cheat version.
 

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Your action log in the bottom right has to have EXACTLY these actions in it when you click the craft button. Like, seriously, EXACTLY this. If you click the fire more than once, your log will say "low fire, medium fire, etc" so even if you go back around to the low fire, it won't be EXACTLY this and it won't work. Literally just looking at the other fires before you start messes it up. After you craft the potion once, you can just use the cauldron icon in your recipe book to craft them instantly.
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Hi, I just wanted to know if there is some kind of guide? I'm at the part of Holoryx's story where I can tell him that Garth is alive. Can you tell me what the consequences are? It should be noted that I just started playing this again, since I had left the game at version 25 approximately. I also want to ask if it is possible to force the game in some way (like modifying the saves, etc.) so that I can meet the character of Iacchus, I didn't know about his existence until recently and the truth is I don't want to go through the whole process of killing the warlord again until the most recent version.
 
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lud dud

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Hi, I just wanted to know if there is some kind of guide? I'm at the part of Holoryx's story where I can tell him that Garth is alive. Can you tell me what the consequences are? It should be noted that I just started playing this again, since I had left the game at version 25 approximately. I also want to ask if it is possible to force the game in some way (like modifying the saves, etc.) so that I can meet the character of Iacchus, I didn't know about his existence until recently and the truth is I don't want to go through the whole process of killing the warlord again until the most recent version.
The long-term consequences of that questline aren't even implemented yet, so no one can tell you that unfortunately.
I think you'll run into Iacchus again later, during the vampires quest in Harmonia.
 

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I last played a long time ago. Can you visit galiano in prison now and have sex with him there? That was the thing i wanted to see long time ago xd
 

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Great game,really love it, i can't find the New mission on the notice board in Eldor from update 33.1. it doesn't appear on the notice board. am i missing something?is there a prerequisite to acquire it?
 

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Great game,really love it, i can't find the New mission on the notice board in Eldor from update 33.1. it doesn't appear on the notice board. am i missing something?is there a prerequisite to acquire it?
Iirc, you need to have Hakkon on your crew to unlock it
 

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In fact, a big part of why I like this and Lustful Desires so much is that they let you play as a female protagonist.
Kinda wanna chime in here with a question btw.

I really only started playing adult games like idk a year ago, and this was the first gay male game (with optional femprot) I ever played. I'm a heteroflexible woman, so I def prefer guys and the bigger & more monstrous the better! So I figured I'd love it, and in a lot of ways I did! It was just absolutely incredible, except for one thing... being designed for gay men really bleeds through a lot. :giggle:

Consistently wrong pronouns, wrong gender roles & attitudes, the scene descriptions (female anatomy wasn't used much) etc. You know what I mean I'm sure. It was a weird feeling! Like, I loved the idea of the game and it was so obvious that if I was a gay guy this would just totally be my thing! But ultimately I didn't feel like a girl playing it, I felt like an occasionally misgendered guy.

Since then I tried a few other similar gay games and realized it's apparently pretty common. And tbh in hindsight Lust Odyssey did waayyy better than the rest. But I couldn't help but wonder how much of this is a personal issue? It's not like I talk to a lot of other people playing these after all.

Basically - and I mean this with absolutely no judgement(!) - I kept wondering, why bother even adding femprot as an option at all? I mean it's clearly a whole lot of work, all of which could've been spent on improving it for gays instead? Or am I just being pedantic, and the female experience that's there is still enough to make it worthwhile for a lot of people? I'm curious, in a good way I promise. :D
 

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Kinda wanna chime in here with a question btw.

I really only started playing adult games like idk a year ago, and this was the first gay male game (with optional femprot) I ever played. I'm a heteroflexible woman, so I def prefer guys and the bigger & more monstrous the better! So I figured I'd love it, and in a lot of ways I did! It was just absolutely incredible, except for one thing... being designed for gay men really bleeds through a lot. :giggle:

Consistently wrong pronouns, wrong gender roles & attitudes, the scene descriptions (female anatomy wasn't used much) etc. You know what I mean I'm sure. It was a weird feeling! Like, I loved the idea of the game and it was so obvious that if I was a gay guy this would just totally be my thing! But ultimately I didn't feel like a girl playing it, I felt like an occasionally misgendered guy.

Since then I tried a few other similar gay games and realized it's apparently pretty common. And tbh in hindsight Lust Odyssey did waayyy better than the rest. But I couldn't help but wonder how much of this is a personal issue? It's not like I talk to a lot of other people playing these after all.

Basically - and I mean this with absolutely no judgement(!) - I kept wondering, why bother even adding femprot as an option at all? I mean it's clearly a whole lot of work, all of which could've been spent on improving it for gays instead? Or am I just being pedantic, and the female experience that's there is still enough to make it worthwhile for a lot of people? I'm curious, in a good way I promise. :D
you brought up an interesting perspective, while i did know lust odyssey and lustful desires had the option to make female characters i didnt know they were neglected like that. I want to make new saves using FeMC to see it for myself.
 
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Kinda wanna chime in here with a question btw.

I really only started playing adult games like idk a year ago, and this was the first gay male game (with optional femprot) I ever played. I'm a heteroflexible woman, so I def prefer guys and the bigger & more monstrous the better! So I figured I'd love it, and in a lot of ways I did! It was just absolutely incredible, except for one thing... being designed for gay men really bleeds through a lot. :giggle:

Consistently wrong pronouns, wrong gender roles & attitudes, the scene descriptions (female anatomy wasn't used much) etc. You know what I mean I'm sure. It was a weird feeling! Like, I loved the idea of the game and it was so obvious that if I was a gay guy this would just totally be my thing! But ultimately I didn't feel like a girl playing it, I felt like an occasionally misgendered guy.

Since then I tried a few other similar gay games and realized it's apparently pretty common. And tbh in hindsight Lust Odyssey did waayyy better than the rest. But I couldn't help but wonder how much of this is a personal issue? It's not like I talk to a lot of other people playing these after all.

Basically - and I mean this with absolutely no judgement(!) - I kept wondering, why bother even adding femprot as an option at all? I mean it's clearly a whole lot of work, all of which could've been spent on improving it for gays instead? Or am I just being pedantic, and the female experience that's there is still enough to make it worthwhile for a lot of people? I'm curious, in a good way I promise. :D
I'm not really that knowledgeable about adult games either, tbh, I've barely played any since I'm very picky and specific about what I like. But I feel like 'furry' or at least 'furry'-adjacent games have the legacy of 'Corruptions of Champions' behind them as a kind of genre defining game, and it offered a lot of customisation options for the main character, including the gender. I've barely played it, so I have no idea how much of a difference it made there, but now most games include both female and male MCs as an option just because it did, I feel.

I guess there's also a common assumption that the player gender doesn't matter for the 'bottom' scenes and their writing, so the authors just change the pronouns/genitals (if that) and call it a day. I honestly don't know why they bother with it, though, if they aren't interested in writing M/F stuff at all. Lustful Desires, anecdotally, seems like it's the best at handling the FeMC content; I did a casual playthrough to see the content differences and there seemed to be some notable differences there.

In general, though, the bottom stuff doesn't appeal to me at all in these kinds of games, but I would imagine it would be an even bigger turn-off for female players since it's such a total opposite of what female-audience oriented erotica reads like. Maybe I'm wrong, though lol
 
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lud dud

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Kinda wanna chime in here with a question btw.

I really only started playing adult games like idk a year ago, and this was the first gay male game (with optional femprot) I ever played. I'm a heteroflexible woman, so I def prefer guys and the bigger & more monstrous the better! So I figured I'd love it, and in a lot of ways I did! It was just absolutely incredible, except for one thing... being designed for gay men really bleeds through a lot. :giggle:

Consistently wrong pronouns, wrong gender roles & attitudes, the scene descriptions (female anatomy wasn't used much) etc. You know what I mean I'm sure. It was a weird feeling! Like, I loved the idea of the game and it was so obvious that if I was a gay guy this would just totally be my thing! But ultimately I didn't feel like a girl playing it, I felt like an occasionally misgendered guy.

Since then I tried a few other similar gay games and realized it's apparently pretty common. And tbh in hindsight Lust Odyssey did waayyy better than the rest. But I couldn't help but wonder how much of this is a personal issue? It's not like I talk to a lot of other people playing these after all.

Basically - and I mean this with absolutely no judgement(!) - I kept wondering, why bother even adding femprot as an option at all? I mean it's clearly a whole lot of work, all of which could've been spent on improving it for gays instead? Or am I just being pedantic, and the female experience that's there is still enough to make it worthwhile for a lot of people? I'm curious, in a good way I promise. :D
I think part of it is that it just ends up being harder than the devs thought it would be. For most traditional games, it's super easy to implement (literally just change the pronouns and that covers 99% of cases), so these adult game devs feel like it's an expected thing to have. Like, if they don't have it, they're "missing something" or "not ambitious enough". But in a game like this, where the characters are having sex all the time, it's actually a pretty ambitious thing to implement, especially if you also want to support dom/sub/top/bottom dynamics.
 

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Kinda wanna chime in here with a question btw.

I really only started playing adult games like idk a year ago, and this was the first gay male game (with optional femprot) I ever played. I'm a heteroflexible woman, so I def prefer guys and the bigger & more monstrous the better! So I figured I'd love it, and in a lot of ways I did! It was just absolutely incredible, except for one thing... being designed for gay men really bleeds through a lot. :giggle:

Consistently wrong pronouns, wrong gender roles & attitudes, the scene descriptions (female anatomy wasn't used much) etc. You know what I mean I'm sure. It was a weird feeling! Like, I loved the idea of the game and it was so obvious that if I was a gay guy this would just totally be my thing! But ultimately I didn't feel like a girl playing it, I felt like an occasionally misgendered guy.

Since then I tried a few other similar gay games and realized it's apparently pretty common. And tbh in hindsight Lust Odyssey did waayyy better than the rest. But I couldn't help but wonder how much of this is a personal issue? It's not like I talk to a lot of other people playing these after all.
From what I've heard, characters being misgendered occasionally goes both ways in this (but isn't that common from what I remember?), likely because it's a game that still has a lot of development and bug fixes to get through. I'm not sure what you mean by "wrong" gender roles and attitudes though, particularly since the player character in this (and RPGs with player characters in general) seem pretty "neutral" regardless of gender. While I don't remember anything specific from this (it's been awhile since I played), the only other game of this sort that I know of that allows a female protagonist is Lustful Desires, and gender-unique text does in fact pop up in that whenever it is relevant within that game's writing. Enough times that I can actually recall several instances of it off the top of my head.

I also don't think that it needs as much work as you think it requires since, aside from adding female-exclusive snippets here and there where appropriate, gay male/hetero female bottom stuff is rather easily interchangeable for obvious reasons.

Basically - and I mean this with absolutely no judgement(!) - I kept wondering, why bother even adding femprot as an option at all? I mean it's clearly a whole lot of work, all of which could've been spent on improving it for gays instead? Or am I just being pedantic, and the female experience that's there is still enough to make it worthwhile for a lot of people? I'm curious, in a good way I promise. :D
You could ask that question for any role-playing game. It'd be like removing femshep from Mass Effect and everything associated with it so the devs could just "focus" on maleshep, or removing that plus elves/dwarves/quanari as player options from Dragon Age so they could "focus" on male human players. If the goal of the game is to seriously be a role-playing game (and these are) then I would consider that to be a major failure, but if the goal of the game is solely to pander to a specific group of people then sure, but then it wouldn't just stop at removing female characters, it'd become hyperfixated on either top or bottom content, or potentially other more specific niches, and perhaps just do away with most character options entirely.
 

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Kinda wanna chime in here with a question btw.

I really only started playing adult games like idk a year ago, and this was the first gay male game (with optional femprot) I ever played. I'm a heteroflexible woman, so I def prefer guys and the bigger & more monstrous the better! So I figured I'd love it, and in a lot of ways I did! It was just absolutely incredible, except for one thing... being designed for gay men really bleeds through a lot. :giggle:

Consistently wrong pronouns, wrong gender roles & attitudes, the scene descriptions (female anatomy wasn't used much) etc. You know what I mean I'm sure. It was a weird feeling! Like, I loved the idea of the game and it was so obvious that if I was a gay guy this would just totally be my thing! But ultimately I didn't feel like a girl playing it, I felt like an occasionally misgendered guy.

Since then I tried a few other similar gay games and realized it's apparently pretty common. And tbh in hindsight Lust Odyssey did waayyy better than the rest. But I couldn't help but wonder how much of this is a personal issue? It's not like I talk to a lot of other people playing these after all.

Basically - and I mean this with absolutely no judgement(!) - I kept wondering, why bother even adding femprot as an option at all? I mean it's clearly a whole lot of work, all of which could've been spent on improving it for gays instead? Or am I just being pedantic, and the female experience that's there is still enough to make it worthwhile for a lot of people? I'm curious, in a good way I promise. :D
Welcome to our world.
This is exactly the feeling Many of us had, when we don't have many Gay focused games,
that need to settle with F/M porn or YAOI porn which were targeted at Straight Men / Women. :LOL:

Why adding FemMC to a Gay focused game you ask?
While I'm not the dev, I'm 95% sure it's to "get a wider range of audiences".
Given the Bottom bias of these games, many gay bottom MC aspects align with Female MC, so it's and easy addition.
But It's still an Afterthought. That's why you feel out of place all the time. (You feel misplaced cuz you are)

The fact is, porn game serves very specific audiences, as sexual preferences often conflict each other. And when it happens, the game no longer functions for that person.
Gay devs won't ever hav the perspective of a female MC. Just like F/M or YAOI Porn don't have the perspective for gay men who like hunks (I also don't think they Care to even try to have).
They serve different audiences.

Is it worthwhile for hetero female? I'm not one so can't say much, but different strokes for different folks.
Also, there ain't many porn games for straight women who like beefy dudes. ;)
 
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I'm not sure what you mean by "wrong" gender roles and attitudes though, particularly since the player character in this (and RPGs with player characters in general) seem pretty "neutral" regardless of gender.While I don't remember anything specific from this (it's been awhile since I played), the only other game of this sort that I know of that allows a female protagonist is Lustful Desires, and gender-unique text does in fact pop up in that whenever it is relevant within that game's writing. Enough times that I can actually recall several instances of it off the top of my head
Well having tried Lustful Desires it's actually a great example! Iirc when you make it to the first town, there's a guy who's clearly very into you, yet you - as a woman - are expected to pay them to have sex with you. I mean that's just not how it works. And that same small but critically important difference in people's attitudes, expectations, wording etc is everywhere. Most of it is barely nuance, but it's so ever-present that even then it's enough. I mean, I still FAR prefer that to the blatant misogyny most other games written by guys for guys seem to deal with. x.x Then again, even tho I'm a complete sub I'm not really into degradation, so maybe it's also that idk?

I'm not blaming the games mind! Like I said, especially Lust Odyssey was just so obviously amazing for what it does! I just wandered in here on a whim after checking for new games and spotting this one, saw the comment I replied to and thought I'd ask bc it always made me curious is all. :giggle:

Also lud dud had a great point! Sex scenes are just wholly different from your typical RPG's since they really play into those fetishes & gender roles and can't help but dance on and over all kinds of lines of what's ok and what isn't. Non-adult RPG's don't have to deal with any of it at all, for them it's literally as easy as just switching the pronouns and that's that.

Welcome to our world.
This is exactly the feeling Many of us had, when we don't have many Gay focused games,
that need to settle with F/M porn or YAOI porn which were targeted at Straight Men / Women. :LOL:

Why adding FemMC to a Gay focused game you ask?
While I'm not the dev, I'm 95% sure it's to "get a wider range of audiences".
Given the Bottom bias of these games, many gay bottom MC aspects align with Female MC, so it's and easy addition.
But It's still an Afterthought. That's why you feel out of place all the time. (You feel misplaced cuz you are)

The fact is, porn game serves very specific audiences, as sexual preferences often conflict each other. And when it happens, the game no longer functions for that person.
Gay devs won't ever hav the perspective of a female MC. Just like F/M or YAOI Porn don't have the perspective for gay men who like hunks (I also don't think they Care to even try to have).
They serve different audiences.

Is it worthwhile for hetero female? I'm not one so can't say much, but different strokes for different folks.
Also, there ain't many porn games for straight women who like beefy dudes. ;)
Yee you make a lot of great points! I think you're prolly right. I guess idk, I just wondered whether other women felt like I did? And if yes, then felt it would be better for them to focus on gays to make the best possible experience for you guys! Definitely didn't mean any disrespect to the creators or the ppl playing it. And if this is more of a personal issue of mine and other women really enjoy the game, all the better!

I can really only imagine your PoV in this, and how hard it must be to find good games in mountains of straight stuff. x.x
 
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