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IvoryOwl

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I think most players like this game because of the hot setting and good writing, not because they want to fuck monsters / aliens / robots.
Then I guess I'm in the minority, because the latter are the reason why I play this game, and I'm not talking about "recolored humans pretending to be aliens". As a xenophile / teratophile, it's quite hard to find a decent game with proper monstrous and alien looking NPCs that aren't just your stereotypical cannon fodder, dumb enemies. Even more so a game that allows a female protag with a backbone, or dom position, and not just some vapid bimbo cum dump (even though you can play it that way).

I understand that actual monsters and aliens can be the opposite of "sexy" for some people, it's just that... the polls feel unfair IMO. If the majority of your player base only cares about one thing, then that's the option that is going to win most of the time. It's a perpetual cycle of making game for one particular crowd, which attracts more like-minded individuals, which means more like-minded votes. IMO, if a particular theme won on the previous polls, it should be temporarily locked out from the next one or two.

Alternatively, just be honest with the player base and say you are only interested in developing the kinks you are into and leave it at that. I guess it's better to specialize in something and do it well than adding content just for inclusivity's sake, and then make it shallow and boring because you don't like it...
 
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Sure thing, here you go! Can't share links at the moment cuz I usually lurk, but I may end up uploading it to gaytorrents.
Also, I've posted the requirements for the scene "Beg to be fucked" below.
i already killed thw warlord but i think there is something wrong with this Screenshot (15).png
 

nackedsnake

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I mentioned furry as a catch-all term for non-human sex. I didn't mean anything else by it.

I personally really like this game, I think it's a gem among gay-leaning projects.
A ton of movies, books and media set in space feature only humans or very human-looking aliens. I don't see it as a problem per se. Bigger and better in this case seems to be a matter of opinion. You think they're essencial, a lot of people don't.

Either way, you missed the point of my message, which wasn't about my personal opinion at all. I was just surprised that people continue to be shocked about patrons picking humans over non-humans when they have done that since that Patreon was set up.

I do agree that game design by committee is where creativity goes to die.
A big difference / niche this game has, is it actually has tons of very good alien designs, and you interact with them / actually having sex with them from get go - which is where the "huge potential" lies.
But then it's rolling downhill sorely due to Patreon votes - strictly stick to "Human contents".
  • Which I kinda don't understand, How a brilliant dev then be dedicated by the un-creative mass - maybe design aliens are too hard of the work for his liking? So he just stick to easy money?
  • I thought the Patreon vote was just for "Priority"(meaning we get "human contents" first, but the rest would follow), but it seems it's actually "Direction" and "Contents" (so we won't get the "rest" at all)
Essentially if this game started like one of those you mentioned (human focused), it will be a different story.
But right now it feels like a "direction shift".
Well, about many human in space game
Good example is this...

Infinite star VN
In itch and this site.
They've alien yes but there's also many human which "Different type" like most of them you can romance but they are up to your choice.
They can be just friend and have good writing too.
Why i brought this up? Because there's new character aliens or always considered other thing not focus around only human or some character (some might but it's not like other don't get it)

In this game there was no anthro or specific furry, maybe it's about content writing.

There's many human yet at the same time, alien have their own role or content which doesn't cut out.
I think maybe... It's about time we stop focus on one character, there's time content on ryan and this time galiano which almost big amount content their got.
Sure ryan brother is interested in our relationship with ryan so i understand about his content.
Unfortunately for Infinite star VN:
  • Its background is actually not "space", but "Spaceship" - your are mainly interacting with your shipmates - which are only human
  • There's only one Alien race atm, which means "Alien" is not a focus.
  • It's mainly Female audience targeted (as a gay man, I find scenes sometimes are very awkward)
 

nackedsnake

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The games I had in mind are like Corruption of Champion/Tainted Space, which are pretty similar to Lustful Desires/Lust Odyssey, and probably inspired them, but have a very clear focus on furry/alien characters and the associated fetishes (like every other character having a giant horse cock for some reason). I found the initial settings/stories and character building/creation mechanics to be pretty interesting, but there is really nothing there for someone who doesn't enjoy furry content. This is why I like that there are alternatives to them that feature human characters and vanilla sex more prominently as an alternative

LO and LD are also intended primarily for a gay/bi male audience, which is also pretty rare, as far as adult games go. Or maybe not exactly rare, but there are a lot less of them compared to straight games and especially very few Bara games vs BL. The reason I had a look at CoC/Tainted Space in the first place was to see the gay content they offered, and there was annoyingly very little of it, and like 99% of it is also bottom content, which does not appeal to me at all.

This is just my perspective and what I am looking for when it comes to LO. I can definitely understand that, for someone who is interested in the alien content only, the human characters having so much prominence and getting so much content would be frustrating, especially with how new planets are still not becoming available. It will probably feel like there aren't enough aliens for a while because a lot of the locations are still in development and haven't been created yet. I think that, when the game starts to really expand, it would stop feeling like the human characters are getting too much attention.
People like to shit on Pateons, you don't really need to justify your vote. Tho it's interesting to see the other side of the coin :p
I actually understand where you are coming from - your options / choices are way more limited:
Those who like alien / furry porn won't shut done good human porn (at worst find it boring);
On the contrary, people only interested in human contents most of the time hv sexual distastes towards non-human.
The situation is kinda resembles "Lust For Adventure" only that is "Straight" VS "Gay", but the dev come clean about shifted to gay focus cuz that's what he want his game to be.

That said, The quantity of "Human only/focused" gay porn game are way more than "Alien themed", only thing close is Furry VN (apparently gay furry artists love to create VN since it's work adjacent).

BTW, CoC/TiTs are actually a totally different genre from LO/LD: They are TF (Transformation) walking sim - which nets to highly customizable body parts, and it heavily focused on Futa. (A more gay weighted entry will be "Flexible Survival")
While LO/LD is more in line with VN with elements of RPG, and LO is / was very unique in what it offers.

Anyway, since it's still a WIP game, let's hope what you guys voted for is on for "Priority", and the rest is yet to come
 
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What is Rylan's romance route like? I mean, can you sum up his attitude in a few words? Last time I played the game I chose to decline to have sex with him at the first opportunity and he was a very "neutral" crewmate after that point, so I still don't know what to expect from him in a more involved relationship.
 

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Then I guess I'm in the minority, because the latter are the reason why I play this game, and I'm not talking about "recolored humans pretending to be aliens". As a xenophile / teratophile, it's quite hard to find a decent game with proper monstrous and alien looking NPCs that aren't just your stereotypical cannon fodder, dumb enemies. Even more so a game that allows a female protag with a backbone, or dom position, and not just some vapid bimbo cum dump (even though you can play it that way).

I understand that actual monsters and aliens can be the opposite of "sexy" for some people, it's just that... the polls feel unfair IMO. If the majority of your player base only cares about one thing, then that's the option that is going to win most of the time. It's a perpetual cycle of making game for one particular crowd, which attracts more like-minded individuals, which means more like-minded votes. IMO, if a particular theme won on the previous polls, it should be temporarily locked out from the next one or two.

Alternatively, just be honest with the player base and say you are only interested in developing the kinks you are into and leave it at that. I guess it's better to specialize in something and do it well than adding content just for inclusivity's sake, and then make it shallow and boring because you don't like it...
I think the Patreon polls prove you're the minority indeed.

While I do understand wanting to cater to one's base audience, I think letting patrons choose almost every aspect of the game makes a project creatively backrupt. I wouldn't do it to my game if I had a Patreon.

It seems like the author has different ideas and wants to do a bit of everything, but the Patreon keeps railroading him into the same characters over and over. Personally, if I were him, I'd remove the always-winning-human choices from the options for a time and only give options that are different, in order to have the game go in an unexpected direction.
Or just stopping letting patrons decide as much as they do regarding content. However that can lead to people stopping their support, as a lot of peeps just support in order to try to cater to their own interests.

A big difference / niche this game has, is it actually has tons of very good alien designs, and you interact with them / actually having sex with them from get go - which is where the "huge potential" lies.
But then it's rolling downhill sorely due to Patreon votes - strictly stick to "Human contents".
  • Which I kinda don't understand, How a brilliant dev then be dedicated by the un-creative mass - maybe design aliens are too hard of the work for his liking? So he just stick to easy money?
  • I thought the Patreon vote was just for "Priority"(meaning we get "human contents" first, but the rest would follow), but it seems it's actually "Direction" and "Contents" (so we won't get the "rest" at all)
Essentially if this game started like one of those you mentioned (human focused), it will be a different story.
But right now it feels like a "direction shift".
As far as I remember, from the beginning this was more human focused. Aliens were there by Rylan had the most content.
Still, as I said above, I agree that simply sticking to Patreon votes kills creativity in a project.
It does seem like we won't get "rest".

What is Rylan's romance route like? I mean, can you sum up his attitude in a few words? Last time I played the game I chose to decline to have sex with him at the first opportunity and he was a very "neutral" crewmate after that point, so I still don't know what to expect from him in a more involved relationship.
You can choose romancing him or being his slave/master (depending on attitude) as far as I can recall.
I've never played the romance route, but on the slave route, he's dominating, mean, aggressive and overall everything a slave can hope from a master in such a game.
 
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The games I had in mind are like Corruption of Champion/Tainted Space, which are pretty similar to Lustful Desires/Lust Odyssey, and probably inspired them, but have a very clear focus on furry/alien characters and the associated fetishes (like every other character having a giant horse cock for some reason). I found the initial settings/stories and character building/creation mechanics to be pretty interesting, but there is really nothing there for someone who doesn't enjoy furry content. This is why I like that there are alternatives to them that feature human characters and vanilla sex more prominently as an alternative

LO and LD are also intended primarily for a gay/bi male audience, which is also pretty rare, as far as adult games go. Or maybe not exactly rare, but there are a lot less of them compared to straight games and especially very few Bara games vs BL. The reason I had a look at CoC/Tainted Space in the first place was to see the gay content they offered, and there was annoyingly very little of it, and like 99% of it is also bottom content, which does not appeal to me at all.

This is just my perspective and what I am looking for when it comes to LO. I can definitely understand that, for someone who is interested in the alien content only, the human characters having so much prominence and getting so much content would be frustrating, especially with how new planets are still not becoming available. It will probably feel like there aren't enough aliens for a while because a lot of the locations are still in development and haven't been created yet. I think that, when the game starts to really expand, it would stop feeling like the human characters are getting too much attention.
Which is totally fair. As an exclusively M/M myself, I do wish CoC/2/TiTS had more male content but the majority of characters are herms/dickgirls.

Also it's not so much "I'm into aliens/furry", it's more "humans are generally boring" especially if they don't push a few of my other buttons at the very least. Barrel and Harold in LD for example? 100% absolutely yes. Rylan here in LO? No thank you.

I was also more thinking of all the other kinds of games you see floating around here that have gay and human-exclusive content that never does it for me. Hell, I'd prefer text-only over images that idc for so I can at least use some of my imagination to fill in the gaps.

I think most players like this game because of the hot setting and good writing, not because they want to fuck monsters / aliens / robots.
It seems that your assumption is since game is a space odyssey then readers MUST like furry-adjacent monster-fucking content. That's just not true.
Sorry, I play NSFW games because I'm looking for fap material. That's just me, but I wouldn't be so bold as to claim "most" people are here for "the setting and writing". You don't have this many sex scenes if you're just trying to "make a good story".
That said, you can absolutely weave a good story in as well (which IMO LO does very well, better than most other NSFW games), but it's definitely not my primary reason for following it.

Then I guess I'm in the minority, because the latter are the reason why I play this game
You and me both. Idk, it's a weird take to say "NSFW games are primarily used for its story instead of fap material", because there's no way this game would be as seen without the descriptive sex scenes.
 

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Sorry, I play NSFW games because I'm looking for fap material. That's just me, but I wouldn't be so bold as to claim "most" people are here for "the setting and writing". You don't have this many sex scenes if you're just trying to "make a good story".
That said, you can absolutely weave a good story in as well (which IMO LO does very well, better than most other NSFW games), but it's definitely not my primary reason for following it.
It seems you have misunderstood what I meant. When I said "good writing" I meant the sex scenes, which are hot and well written.
As in, I assume most of the readers of this game like the setting (a space odyssey) and the scenes we do have (sex with humans most of the time) and not because they're in search of non-human sex.
Patreon polls prove my point. Most don't care about alien-sex per se, although they'll like slightly un-human characters (Galiano) if the writing for that character is good (esp. during the sex scenes.)
 

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People like to shit on Pateons, you don't really need to justify your vote. Tho it's interesting to see the other side of the coin :p
I actually understand where you are coming from - your options / choices are way more limited:
Those who like alien / furry porn won't shut done good human porn (at worst find it boring);
On the contrary, people only interested in human contents most of the time hv sexual distastes towards non-human.
The situation is kinda resembles "Lust For Adventure" only that is "Straight" VS "Gay", but the dev come clean about shifted to gay focus cuz that's what he want his game to be.

That said, The quantity of "Human only/focused" gay porn game are way more than "Alien themed", only thing close is Furry VN (apparently gay furry artists love to create VN since it's work adjacent).

BTW, CoC/TiTs are actually a totally different genre from LO/LD: They are TF (Transformation) walking sim - which nets to highly customizable body parts, and it heavily focused on Futa. (A more gay weighted entry will be "Flexible Survival")
While LO/LD is more in line with VN with elements of RPG, and LO is / was very unique in what it offers.

Anyway, since it's still a WIP game, let's hope what you guys voted for is on for "Priority", and the rest is yet to come
It's not even that I hate furry content, necessarily, it's more so that it does nothing for me in the erotic aspect. I enjoy a lot of the scenes with the non-human characters, but it's because I like the character archetype or personality, while the animalistic/alien aspects really detract from the experience. The only characters that do absolutely nothing for me in LD/LO are probably Caleb and Hakkon, and that's because the non-human aspects are their central points. Hakkon is really unappealing visually, while Caleb is really in your face with him being a werewolf with all of the knot and pouch talk. I hope there will be at least an option to turn him human in the future so that the werewolf content could be optional like with Logan and Bernie.

And about CoC/TiTs, I think LD at least is on the surface pretty similar. It is a Western-style RPG with a focus on fight/seduce combat, and it has a variety of fantasy races and creatures that the protagonist can be sexual with, which is why I was bit cautious when I first started LD, I was afraid it would be too similar to CoC. However, it has a much higher emphasis on character interaction and relationships, and includes basically none of character transformation/customization and extreme fetishes that CoC has (though it still has a little too much animal content, imo). The gay content is what had me stay around.

Which is totally fair. As an exclusively M/M myself, I do wish CoC/2/TiTS had more male content but the majority of characters are herms/dickgirls.

Also it's not so much "I'm into aliens/furry", it's more "humans are generally boring" especially if they don't push a few of my other buttons at the very least. Barrel and Harold in LD for example? 100% absolutely yes. Rylan here in LO? No thank you.

I was also more thinking of all the other kinds of games you see floating around here that have gay and human-exclusive content that never does it for me. Hell, I'd prefer text-only over images that idc for so I can at least use some of my imagination to fill in the gaps.
I mean, I can also be picky sometimes with my preferences, though "humans are boring" by default is a bit too alien for me. That said, I can understand why Rylan wouldn't be appealing to some. He is probably the closest the game has to a generic pretty love interest who is up for everything, but as the game started developing him I started to enjoy his scenes more.

Personal highlights for me in this game are characters like Galiano, Arthur, Cicero, and Bradley, maybe Katari and Garth. I so far enjoyed the dom players scenes with them (even though the dom aspect can be a bit too much at times). LD-wise, I think I like Logan the most, but I can appreciate most of the named male characters there, outside of Caleb. The generic male human/orc enemies are also visually pretty appealing.
 

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Also, I think everyone in this thread is a bit too panic-y about the Patreon polls. So far, the content polls have only affected what content gets priority in the development, but all of the options eventually make it into the game. Also, the character polls have started very recently and so far the results were: Katari, Galiano, Chip. I honestly don't think these show a human-character bias, from my perspective the characters that get the most votes are the ones that didn't have enough screen time recently/at all, which I think is why Katari won the first one. I think that underdeveloped characters like Alastor/Hakkon getting a good amount of votes also shows that.

The only polls so far that strictly affect the final look of the game are the character design ones, like the ones Chip is getting now (hopefully, more body options will become available at some point to appeal to more players) and Hakkon had very early on, apparently, where the decision was to make him more humanoid or monstrous. Clearly, monstrous won, but if I could, I would have voted for a more humanoid design. :p
 
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Oops, I was one of the people who voted for the human-like Chip, sorry! It just sort of makes sense to me more than having him be a random alien species or having him be too mechanical. Iirc, story-wise, it's supposed to be a synthetic body that he picks out for himself, so I figure he would go for something that resembles something human and is familiar to the MC?

I can see why some people would be miffed about there being more human characters and content compared to the aliens, but, honestly, I find it kind of refreshing. I feel like most adult games that feature fantasy races have very little human characters, if at all, because I guess it would be too vanilla and every character must cater to a certain fetish. So I, personally, enjoy games like LO and LD that still have content that can appeal to those who don't particularly care for furry/non-human stuff.

Also, it's not like the human characters are the only popular ones. Non-human characters are still doing well in the polls, Bradley came in second this time, and Hakkon and Alastor also did OK.

I voted for Earth on that other poll and was pretty surprised that Akra ended up winning. I was fine with the result in the end because I wanted to see where the Garth plot would go, but Galiano also ended up winning the character poll and so the update was only focused on him, so I'm pretty annoyed about that.


I'm upset because it's boring and we had ONE chance at a hot robot man that's also in your brain, and it gets wasted on looking like this motherfucker.

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They're literally even voting for a *buzz cut haircut* which is what this idiot "android" has.

Edit: I REALLY want to emphasize just how MUCH I hate Detroid androids, they're JUST GUYS, this is literally a picture of Markus with his ONE android blinking bit removed.
 

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Side note, what is "LD"?
Lustful Desires, an adult RPG with similar mechanics to Lust Odyssey, but set in vaguely medieval fantasy setting.

The main focus is on gay male content, but similar to LO the protagonist can be either male or female, so there is also straight content for the female players. There are also some female NPCs for straight/lesbian content, but it's very minor and underdeveloped. The game includes both human and furry characters that the player can form relationships with/romance/have sex with, and the monsters that are encountered as enemies can also be seduced during encounters. All of the sex scenes are optional, and the MC's preferences can be customized to lock out certain content: the position (top, bottom, vers), role (dom, sub, vers), and orientation (straight, bi, gay).

So, theoretically, a straight male player could play through the game and avoid all of the gay content, but they wouldn't really get much out of it.
 

WazawaiDa

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I'm upset because it's boring and we had ONE chance at a hot robot man that's also in your brain, and it gets wasted on looking like this motherfucker.

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They're literally even voting for a *buzz cut haircut* which is what this idiot "android" has.

Edit: I REALLY want to emphasize just how MUCH I hate Detroid androids, they're JUST GUYS, this is literally a picture of Markus with his ONE android blinking bit removed.
LOL, I think that's exactly it. I was a bit surprised at the buzz cut option leading so much, but I then I realized that they wanted to recreate Markus in the game. The only part of the design that doesn't seem to have a clear winner yet,is the hair level, I'm part of the "Extremely hairy" gang (y)
 
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How about a boat-shaped hull with eight big legs spreading from the top like a spider, twenty articulated tentacles sprouting from between them to manipulate keyboards, door handles, musical instruments, spanners, saws, screwdrivers, nipple clamps, dildos, deck chairs, hammers, nails, firearms, melee weapons and so on, plus a set of four cameras on the front so he can see in full 3D in 173, 229, 302, 400, 529, 700, 926, 1225, 1621, 2144, 2836 and 3752 nanometre ranges, and maybe active and passive radars on a telescopic stalk rising from the abdomen?

You know, something robotic and powerful and useful and versatile and able to throw you across your bed, pin down all your limbs, stuff your soaked panties into your mouth, hold them in there and stimulate all your erogenous zones at the same time as he fucks you silly with the brand new dildo he made on the CNC mill last night, the way you know you like it, you slut.
 

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Love how people keep saying what they want without being a patron, like maybe if you all went and supported you'd get what you desired?
 
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Love how people keep saying what they want without being a patron, like maybe if you all went and supported you'd get what you desired?
So you're okay with this guy deciding the content of all our games?

You know the actor who created that character got sick of the people not understanding he wasn't a good guy and killed him off?
 
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