VN Ren'Py Lust Odyssey [v0.48.1] [Xperiment]

[Zorrscha]

So you're okay with this guy deciding the content of all our games?

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You know the actor who created that character got sick of the people not understanding he wasn't a good guy and killed him off?

Yes money decides everything it's always been like that, it's hardly their fault it's a good motivator for their hard work

 

[jcbchris]

Love how people keep saying what they want without being a patron, like maybe if you all went and supported you'd get what you desired?

Even being a patron doesn't mean the creator will do whatever the patron want. Beside these "people keep saying what they want" in this free forum, not to the creator her/himself and pressuring the creator to do their bidding so no harm done right?

 

[Furrycomf]

It's not even that I hate furry content, necessarily, it's more so that it does nothing for me in the erotic aspect. I enjoy a lot of the scenes with the non-human characters, but it's because I like the character archetype or personality, while the animalistic/alien aspects really detract from the experience. The only characters that do absolutely nothing for me in LD/LO are probably Caleb and Hakkon, and that's because the non-human aspects are their central points. Hakkon is really unappealing visually, while Caleb is really in your face with him being a werewolf with all of the knot and pouch talk. I hope there will be at least an option to turn him human in the future so that the werewolf content could be optional like with Logan and Bernie.

And about CoC/TiTs, I think LD at least is on the surface pretty similar. It is a Western-style RPG with a focus on fight/seduce combat, and it has a variety of fantasy races and creatures that the protagonist can be sexual with, which is why I was bit cautious when I first started LD, I was afraid it would be too similar to CoC. However, it has a much higher emphasis on character interaction and relationships, and includes basically none of character transformation/customization and extreme fetishes that CoC has (though it still has a little too much animal content, imo). The gay content is what had me stay around.


I mean, I can also be picky sometimes with my preferences, though "humans are boring" by default is a bit too alien for me. That said, I can understand why Rylan wouldn't be appealing to some. He is probably the closest the game has to a generic pretty love interest who is up for everything, but as the game started developing him I started to enjoy his scenes more.

Personal highlights for me in this game are characters like Galiano, Arthur, Cicero, and Bradley, maybe Katari and Garth. I so far enjoyed the dom players scenes with them (even though the dom aspect can be a bit too much at times). LD-wise, I think I like Logan the most, but I can appreciate most of the named male characters there, outside of Caleb. The generic male human/orc enemies are also visually pretty appealing.

what games are these? CoC and TiTs?

 

[Leozinhe]

this forum has a lot of entertainment lmao

 

[IvoryOwl]

Love how people keep saying what they want without being a patron, like maybe if you all went and supported you'd get what you desired?

You assume there are enough of us to become the new majority. Even if that were to happen, being the majority means we would outvote everyone else, which is the exact same ordeal we're going through right now and the reason why we're complaining. There is a better way to handle the polls and that is simply to rotate content and leave previous winners (content or theme) out of the next one.

 

[Dept of Public Worms]

That or keep the options that didn't win in the poll and add new options to replace the ones that did win, and make the votes cumulative, month by month, so the one that got 29% three times in a row beats anything that just got 31% on its debut, but then gets reset to 0.

 

[Polarthief]

That or keep the options that didn't win in the poll and add new options to replace the ones that did win, and make the votes cumulative, month by month, so the one that got 29% three times in a row beats anything that just got 31% on its debut, but then gets reset to 0.

What do you mean you don't like FPTP (First Past the Post), the most unfair, worst, voting system in the history of how to settle any choice? (/s just in case; FPTP is garbage and should never be used for any vote system ever, even in cases like this)

 

[nackedsnake]

Also, I think everyone in this thread is a bit too panic-y about the Patreon polls. So far, the content polls have only affected what content gets priority in the development, but all of the options eventually make it into the game.

"Priority Poll" was all good and dandy (why I didn't pay much attention before), but then we got the Chip "Design Poll" - and mark my word, it won't stop here.
As I mentioned before, There should be a "Line" How much Patreon / Commission can affect the game in development, And the Dev should always be in charge of the direction.
Many games already being ruined cuz they are ruled by money (not porn game exclusively) - mind you, only game-wise, financial-wise they are doing great.

I've played tons of porn games so my experience might differ.
One of the reason LO is great and unique, is the Alien Designs. And it seems it start to lost its sparkle.
It's just a shame. But at least some people are happy about the game, good for them.

this forum has a lot of entertainment lmao

IKR? It will always becomes personal / attacking / flaming.
Or someone try to seek approval, like What on earth could "Patreon poll Prove you are Right" ?

It's not even that I hate furry content, necessarily, it's more so that it does nothing for me in the erotic aspect. I enjoy a lot of the scenes with the non-human characters, but it's because I like the character archetype or personality, while the animalistic/alien aspects really detract from the experience. The only characters that do absolutely nothing for me in LD/LO are probably Caleb and Hakkon, and that's because the non-human aspects are their central points. Hakkon is really unappealing visually, while Caleb is really in your face with him being a werewolf with all of the knot and pouch talk. I hope there will be at least an option to turn him human in the future so that the werewolf content could be optional like with Logan and Bernie.

That's literally "do NOT like furry contents". From the perspective of someone like all kind of contents equally (not favour furry nor non-fur), Caleb is one of my fav in LD, cuz He resembles all the good feature of a doggo - passionate, loyal, cute, simple, and overly "friendly".
Is Hakkon the weapon smith? Then we literally hvn't got anything for him yet.

 

[justcuriousyouknow]

Is Hakkon the weapon smith? Then we literally hvn't got anything for him yet.

No, Alastor is the weapons smith. Hakkon is the alpha alien who can be recruited from the sewer mission on Akra. He's obsessed with breeding.

 

[WazawaiDa]

"Priority Poll" was all good and dandy (why I didn't pay much attention before), but then we got the Chip "Design Poll" - and mark my word, it won't stop here.
As I mentioned before, There should be a "Line" How much Patreon / Commission can affect the game in development, And the Dev should always be in charge of the direction.
Many games already being ruined cuz they are ruled by money (not porn game exclusively) - mind you, only game-wise, financial-wise they are doing great.

I've played tons of porn games so my experience might differ.
One of the reason LO is great and unique, is the Alien Designs. And it seems it start to lost its sparkle.
It's just a shame. But at least some people are happy about the game, good for them.

I'll take your word for it, I haven't been really been following that many projects to tell if content polls are bad sign or not. But so far LO hasn't given me a reason to panic.

That's literally "do NOT like furry contents". From the perspective of someone like all kind of contents equally (not favour furry nor non-fur), Caleb is one of my fav in LD, cuz He resembles all the good feature of a doggo - passionate, loyal, cute, simple, and overly "friendly".
Is Hakkon the weapon smith? Then we literally hvn't got anything for him yet.

Yeah, I guess as far as strictly furry characters go (Arion, Caleb), they aren't really my favorites. As you say, Caleb can have an appealing personality, but all the actual canine physical features and the genitals are a big turn-off.

And yeah, as the other poster said, Hakkon is the alien creature that is just naked muscles and penis-finger-tentacles.

 

[Dept of Public Worms]

We could recruit that thing? Blimey.

 

[IvoryOwl]

As I mentioned before, There should be a "Line" How much Patreon / Commission can affect the game in development, And the Dev should always be in charge of the direction.
Many games already being ruined cuz they are ruled by money (not porn game exclusively) - mind you, only game-wise, financial-wise they are doing great.

You assume the developer is being forced to cater to the whims of the people against his volition. For all we know, he probably did this on purpose to capitalize on it. Many of these patreon and early-access projects are what I like to call "rent-a-dev", where you basically pay money in order to have a product tailored to your tastes. The dev pitches in the basic idea while you steer the rest of development. If nothing else, this serves to engage with the community and keep them interested in the project.

The point is, nobody forced the dev to go down this path. There is some benefit to making your project public; it allows you to gauge interest and troubleshoot things faster. The caveat is that it can lead to people becoming a little too invested in its direction and wanting to change things to cater their tastes. The industry has... hmm... let's say "spoiled" people a bit, in that regard. In the past games were developed behind locked doors and nobody knew what they were getting until it released.

Nowadays, mainstream industry has been pressured into catering to every crowd imaginable in order to maximize profit and avoid releasing a product people dislike. And this trend has trickled down to indie games as well. Ideally, there should be a balance between involving the community and independent creativity. Easier said than done though...

 

[Lestev]

I feel that this type of development, the one where you let your supporters choose on everything, is good in the short term but bad in the long haul. Sure, you'll get a good chunk of loyal supporters that will follow you for the time being, but you are unlikely to attract new fans since their choices won't matter.

More so, if the developer isn't willing to even chose the look of one of the main characters by themselves, the game will probably lose its direction more and more as time goes on. I don't want to be a mood breaker, but that's a recipe for reaching a fast burnout.

 

[kimmy12]

this forum has a lot of entertainment lmao

yuh

 

[nackedsnake]

You assume the developer is being forced to cater to the whims of the people against his volition. For all we know, he probably did this on purpose to capitalize on it. Many of these patreon and early-access projects are what I like to call "rent-a-dev", where you basically pay money in order to have a product tailored to your tastes. The dev pitches in the basic idea while you steer the rest of development. If nothing else, this serves to engage with the community and keep them interested in the project.

The point is, nobody forced the dev to go down this path. There is some benefit to making your project public; it allows you to gauge interest and troubleshoot things faster. The caveat is that it can lead to people becoming a little too invested in its direction and wanting to change things to cater their tastes. The industry has... hmm... let's say "spoiled" people a bit, in that regard. In the past games were developed behind locked doors and nobody knew what they were getting until it released.

Nowadays, mainstream industry has been pressured into catering to every crowd imaginable in order to maximize profit and avoid releasing a product people dislike. And this trend has trickled down to indie games as well. Ideally, there should be a balance between involving the community and independent creativity. Easier said than done though...

Where does this "Dev is Forced" come from, he literally did it himself and it's his choice to go down this path.
Yes maybe afterall the dev just want to do human concentric contents, And I just got the wrong impression.
But "Commission" is different from "Game development", the former is a one-off thing, the latter is a whole package. If you fragmenting the contents, you will just get fragments. That's also why there are so few finished good porn games.
The sad thing is many (especially porn) devs are more keen to your "rent-a-dev" method, they are basically just providing a service.
The peak example are those gatcha games, you basically pay (Crazy amount of) money for porn, monthly - they are not so different from those porn art package Patreons.

Listen to feedback is good, but when you let your Patreon to decide the contents - you will at best get some nice arts, never a good game.
The mass all want different things / the mass don't know what they want, as a game dev it's your job to create / deliver something based on your vision.
A good game can stand against time, while good porn will be flushed out and no one will even remember them, and people will eventually get bored of the project - you can basically look at any project that developed more than 5 years and see what state they are in now.

But again maybe these devs only want to make a living by providing such "service", there's nothing wrong with it.
It's just not a "gamer" such as myself want.
That's the frustration from a gamer, in the envirement of "Modern gaming"(tbh let game become commission is not even on the top list).

No, Alastor is the weapons smith. Hakkon is the alpha alien who can be recruited from the sewer mission on Akra. He's obsessed with breeding.

And yeah, as the other poster said, Hakkon is the alien creature that is just naked muscles and penis-finger-tentacles.

No shit, I love that guy, that's one of the fine example of LO's amazing Alien design.

 

[Dept of Public Worms]

I think I've found a bug.
Talked to Samuel, found the Galactic Union Missions thing, sent people off on missions, wandered around doing other stuff, went to the laboratory and found the "The Warlord" option for talking to Arthur was lit up again. It repeated the whole conversation about whether I was planning to kill it and how I was going to need more soldiers.

 

[Dept of Public Worms]

Second bug: "So can I get up off the floor now?" when talking to Galiano, even if I only just arrived.

 

[Dept of Public Worms]

Additional thing about the missions: "Demanding pleasures" looks like it was meant for the player character. All available crew members are in the -9% to +22% range. Is it possible to go on the mission in person? Is it meant to be?

 

[Dept of Public Worms]

One more: completed a mission and got the bonus reward of 5 basic armour and 5 basic weapons, and there was a pop-up saying "5 weapons: basic removed." Not much of a reward if that's true!

 

[Garnser]

I think I've found a bug.
Talked to Samuel, found the Galactic Union Missions thing, sent people off on missions, wandered around doing other stuff, went to the laboratory and found the "The Warlord" option for talking to Arthur was lit up again. It repeated the whole conversation about whether I was planning to kill it and how I was going to need more soldiers.

I'm sorry to be the one that breaks those news to you, but you are wasting your breath here, you have better chances to get those bugs fixed by contacting the dev himself, which does not reside here.
Try his twitter:

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Btw, alpha 18 version was out 2 days ago, so some of the bugs could be fixed already.