Ren'Py Lust Theory [v0.8.3] [Inceton Games]

[Dr. Javi]

I think we need a copyright lawyer in this thread.

 

[MrMax]

Story: 100%
Renders: 100%
Animations: 95%
Code: 40%
Total:90%

They might actually pull it off - still got 3 days to go

 

[HorttoKaalo]

Story: 100%
Renders: 100%
Animations: 95%
Code: 40%
Total:90%

They might actually pull it off - still got 3 days to go

They don't work on weekends though, so it's either tomorrow or then next week.

 

[gelu123]

They don't work on weekends though, so it's either tomorrow or then next week.

Best bet is monday patreon release , tuesday here

 

[HorttoKaalo]

Best bet is monday patreon release , tuesday here

Monday on patreon, Thursday here.

 

[Felicityskye]

I don't know under what kind of license DAZ models are published, and what rights customer gets with purchase of model. Many people are guessing here, me included, but unless we actually see, it's only guessing.

You can literally look up the licenses for DAZ models. When you purchase any 3D content from Daz, it already comes with standard license.

What the Standard License Agreement covers:
Whenever you purchase 3D Content from Daz, it comes with certain rights that allow you to use that content. Some of those rights include the ability to:

1. Render Images
2. Render Videos
3. Render HDRIs and/or Virtual Reality (VR) scenes

Any of these that you produce and render out are completely owned by you, so you can use them commercially, modify them, sell them, or promote them, as protected by the

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(

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). This is because the end product is a render (your individual artwork) of the 3D Model, as opposed to the actual 3D Content.

Every image in Echoes of Lust, IS a render. Inceton aren't using the ACTUAL model they purchased in the game. The game actually has no assets, it is all rendered images which belongs to Inceton. If Inceton made a game like House Party, where you actively control an actual in-game model of the 3D content you purchased, they would need an Interactive license.

When you should get an Interactive License:
Certain applications of models from Daz 3D require an Interactive License if you want to use that product in a particular way. Any app, game, or video game where the model changes depending on what a user does requires an Interactive License (example: if the 3D Model moves, bends, or walks based on an action the user of that app or game makes).

Because apps and games redistribute un-rendered versions of the 3D Model you’ve purchased to alter and manipulate it, they’re not covered by the Standard License Agreement (

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) and require that you purchase an Interactive License (with only one notable exception — if you are using the content for a game engine that will not be distributed, in which case the

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is sufficient). While plenty of 3D Content from Daz comes with an Interactive License option, select items do not — the creator of each product chooses whether or not to offer an Interactive License.

Read the full rights of the

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here. More details on Interactive License can be found in Section 3.0. If no Interactive License options are offered for a product, it is not an option for using in an app, game, or video game (as a 3D model). Unless otherwise specified, these licenses are not eligible for returns or refunds.

Do you now understand the difference? Render of the model vs Actual use of the model are not the same thing.

 

[Aristos]

Hey, someone please ping me as soon as the update is uploaded. 15 mins late and there ain't none for you to download any more

 

[huyan1995]

Do you guys have girls's voice ? i try to reset the game but there no voice like season 1? Help pls thanks

 

[HorttoKaalo]

Do you guys have girls's voice ? i try to reset the game but there no voice like season 1? Help pls thanks

Season 2 doesn’t have voice acting yet, that will be added when the season is done.

 

[Penfold Mole]

Actually, not. From the EULA:

Author can sell the models with his game, but for any other way of sale or purchase he needs written consent of DAZ.


Also this (not directly connected, but it shows DAZ retains copyrights:

What you quoted from EULA is about DAZ CRT Content - the actual interactive 3D models or model data and incorporating it into user applications and making either 2D or 3D products (renders or 3D prints or whatever) using those applications.
For example, an actual 3D game has a 3D character in it that moves around and is rendered on the screen in real time. Or an application similar to 3D DAZ has a DAZ model incorporated into it and the application user can pose the model there and make 2D or 3D prints or renders using this application.

You left out the part that explains what that "CRT Content" actually is:

3.0 Interactive License Addendum

The terms of this addendum 3.0 are in force only when User has purchased a "Game Develoer License" or an "Interactive License Add-On" from the online DAZ store.

For any User who has purchased one or more Game Developer Licenses the terms of this Addendum 3.0 apply to all Content that the User has purchased a license to via the DAZ store where the "Artist" field of the Content contains a list of one or more Artist Names, and that the User has also purchased Game Developer Licenses such that the User has purchased a Game Developer License for each of the Artist Names represented in the Artist Name field of the Content.

For any User who has purchased one or more Interactive Add-On Licenses via the DAZ store, the terms of this Addendum 3.0 apply to all Content that the User has purchased such an Interactive Add-On License for.

In the case of Game Developer Licenses where the Artist Name for that license is "Daz Originals". The terms of this section 3.0 apply to all content which also contains "Daz Originals" in the Artist Name, regardless of the presence of additional artist names also in that field.

All Content that can be identified according to the above criteria shall hereinafter be referred to as "CRT Content". The terms of this addendum 3.0 do not apply to any other Content.

None of the Ren'Py or other 3D CG games contain any interactive 3D models. They contain only 2D renders of those models.

The part of EULA about it is in the beginning:

1.0 General License Agreement.

• Spoiler

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• Terms of Use. Two Dimensional Works. Subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement, User may (i) access, use, copy and modify the Content in the creation and presentation of two-dimensional animations and renderings, (ii) incorporate two dimensional images (including two dimensional images that simulate motion of three dimensional objects) derived by User from the Content in User's other works, and (iii) publish, market, distribute, transfer, sell or sublicense User's two-dimensional animations, renderings and other works; provided that User may not in any case publish, market, distribute, transfer, sell or sublicense any renderings, animations, software applications, data or any other product from which any Content, or any part thereof, or any substantially similar version of the Content can be separately exported, extracted or de-compiled into any re-distributable form or format.

Content (NOT the CRT Content) in this case = DAZ 3D model (model data)

 

[Thermophob]

What you quoted from EULA is about DAZ CRT Content - the actual interactive 3D models or model data and incororating it into user applications and making either 2D or 3D products (renders or 3D prints or whatever) using those applications.
For example, an actual 3D game has a 3D character in it that moves around and is rendered on the screen in real time. Or an application similar to 3D DAZ has a DAZ model incorporated into it and the application user can pose the model there and make 2D or 3D prints or renders using this application.

You left out the part that explains what that "CRT Content" actually is:



None of the Ren'Py or other 3D CG games contain any interactive 3D models. They contain only 2D renders of those models.

The part of EULA about it is in the beginning:



Content (NOT the CRT Content) in this case = DAZ 3D model (model data)

Look, I don't really think we are getting anywhere with this discussion. That's why I deleted it. I certainly have other things to do than discuss legal issues on pirate forum.

 

[Penfold Mole]

I didn't start this debate, I just tried to correct obvious mistakes.
I'm really not interested about correcting your misconceptions, either. Thanks for realizing when to quit.
Peace out!

 

[Felicityskye]

Look, I don't really think we are getting anywhere with this discussion. That's why I deleted it. I certainly have other things to do than discuss legal issues on pirate forum.

Of course we aren't getting anywhere because you seem to be unable to grasp something as simple as a photo/snapshot/image of something is not the same as the actual use of that something. And then proceeded to misquote the EULA in an attempt to disprove what was said. It is hilarious that you now use that excuse to back out of the discussion that you started and continued for over 2 weeks.

 

[Thermophob]

Of course we aren't getting anywhere because you seem to be unable to grasp something as simple as a photo/snapshot/image of something is not the same as the actual use of that something. And then proceeded to misquote the EULA. It is hilarious that you now use that excuse to back out of the discussion that you started and continued for over 2 weeks.

For most part I was discussing about RenPy and LGPL. How do fuck it has to do with EULA (which you brought today)?
Now, relax.

 

[aidenboy]

Mega Link is down. Thought I'd mention something relevant to this game in it's threaad.

 

[Felicityskye]

For most part I was discussing about RenPy and LGPL. How do fuck it has to do with EULA (which you brought today)?
Now, relax.

Did you already forget you deleted a reply earlier and instead of owning up to misquoting the EULA, you responded with...

Look, I don't really think we are getting anywhere with this discussion. That's why I deleted it.

Instead of admitting you made a mistake, you pull this nonsense.

 

[BOBJevent]

Mega Link is down. Thought I'd mention something relevant to this game in it's threaad.

The Developer keeps taking down Mega link and Nopy downloads, thats what all the chat is about EULA. So all is relevant and you probably wont see a link for the game on those sites again.

 

[aidenboy]

The Developer keeps taking down Mega link and Nopy downloads, thats what all the chat is about EULA. So all is relevant and you probably wont see a link for the game on those sites again.

What possible thing is the dev copying? I haven't played since s2e3 but from what I remember none of these characters are direct copies of anything I can recognize. Did the dev insert something into the game in the last two episodes that could break this? Or is it because the models and such are gotten from somewhere else? If that were the case, I am pretty sure that stuff falls under free-use?

 

[BOBJevent]

What possible thing is the dev copying? I haven't played since s2e3 but from what I remember none of these characters are direct copies of anything I can recognize. Did the dev insert something into the game in the last two episodes that could break this? Or is it because the models and such are gotten from somewhere else? If that were the case, I am pretty sure that stuff falls under free-use?

Its not a case of the the Developer using stuff, they just want to control where you get the game from.

 

[Corambis]

What possible thing is the dev copying? I haven't played since s2e3 but from what I remember none of these characters are direct copies of anything I can recognize. Did the dev insert something into the game in the last two episodes that could break this? Or is it because the models and such are gotten from somewhere else? If that were the case, I am pretty sure that stuff falls under free-use?

It's a copyright thing. The transfers are being taken down under the DMCA as being a violation of their copyright. Some people have wrongly claimed that the game can't be or isn't already automatically copyrighted, which is where the debate has come up.