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aerox1234

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Im already hours into s2 and cant see why there is a romance tag on this? MC feels like he has an IQ of 60, no character arc, only thing hes thinking about is fucking and not about feelings or relationship building at all. Even the "choices" you are given dont mean shit because the game forces you to do all the stuff anyway. Is this going to change at some point or am I fighting a long lost fight? What really irritates me is that Jess and Meg are actually well written characters with at least a decent amount of depth and I like them a lot, but the MC is not even human, more like a fucking bull in breeding season, simple minded, retarded and not seems to have no soul at all just like a fucking robot
 

Nemo56

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Im already hours into s2 and cant see why there is a romance tag on this? MC feels like he has an IQ of 60, no character arc, only thing hes thinking about is fucking and not about feelings or relationship building at all.
Even badly written romance is romance, relationship evolves as much as it's possible in two days. Luckily for him, MC knew most of the girls for years before the story started.
Just keep playing, you'll be surprised. Like in any groundhog day story, MC needs to grow up at some point.
 

aerox1234

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Even badly written romance is romance, relationship evolves as much as it's possible in two days. Luckily for him, MC knew most of the girls for years before the story started.
Just keep playing, you'll be surprised. Like in any groundhog day story, MC needs to grow up at some point.
I get what you are trying to say. But what I mean is for the MC hes is doing this for months now, for him its not only 2 days and he gets to find out everything about the characters he's sexually attracted to...I mean after months of beeing intimate with someone so close to you how do you not think once about your romantic/love feelings for them. The groundhog story itsself is not a problem but its dragged out with a lot of (imo) unnessecary stuff. The most frusttrating thing is that none of your choices have an effect on the story, so why give them in the first place? You feel completely detached from the MC because not even the worst people would do the stuff that he does. Like he does this for months and learns nothing from the experiences. Just like a fly thats hitting a window 3 times a second because it forgets each time there is a solid barrier blocking her from flying out resulting from the lack of short term memory because they have practically NO BRAIN.
Dont get me wrong, I actually like a lot about the game but beeing at least 10hours in and having seen no romantic content or even HINTS of POSSIBLE romantic/meaningful content is just infuriating.
 
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Nemo56

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I get what you are trying to say. But what I mean is for the MC hes is doing this for months now.
We don't know about the months. Could be years.
Bill Murray was doing it for 10000 years - at least according to the original script. They removed the number later, since it was a reference to a hindu belief and they didn't want anything religious in the movie.

And some things did change from one repetition to the next, MC noticed it. It's not always the same. MC noticed that already.
I find it sad that the devs were not bold enough to follow the second storyline where you actually play Megans day. Patreons didn't like that idea so it was scrapped.

If you want consequences you better stop playing now, you will hate the ending. Stephen King once said something similar towards the end of his Dark Tower series ... naturally no one cared and kept reading to the end, or was it?

If you can just go with it ... keep playing. Can't promise you won't be disappointed, all I can promise you is that MC will change.
 

aerox1234

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We don't know about the months. Could be years.
Bill Murray was doing it for 10000 years - at least according to the original script. They removed the number later, since it was a reference to a hindu belief and they didn't want anything religious in the movie.

And some things did change from one repetition to the next, MC noticed it. It's not always the same. MC noticed that already.
I find it sad that the devs were not bold enough to follow the second storyline where you actually play Megans day. Patreons didn't like that idea so it was scrapped.

If you want consequences you better stop playing now, you will hate the ending. Stephen King once said something similar towards the end of his Dark Tower series ... naturally no one cared and kept reading to the end, or was it?

If you can just go with it ... keep playing. Can't promise you won't be disappointed, all I can promise you is that MC will change.
Ok seeing how you described it, it def is not worth it for me to continue. I dont care if its happy or sad ending but the game must give me something to care for and to feel, to connect with the characters so It seems like it really was a waste of time for me sadly. You could say this is even the most important part about those games for me so I thank you for your advice :)
 

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If you don't mind spoilers, I'll tell you the end :)

But really ... it's a biggie.
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ps: If instead you decide to keep playing, make sure you also check out the hidden scenes, most are some episodes not relevant to the story. If you hate seeing other guys in the game, don't play Jessica's shoplifter's scenes and Amy' sequence, but they are only available after the finale anyway.
 
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Im already hours into s2 and cant see why there is a romance tag on this? MC feels like he has an IQ of 60, no character arc, only thing hes thinking about is fucking and not about feelings or relationship building at all. Even the "choices" you are given dont mean shit because the game forces you to do all the stuff anyway. Is this going to change at some point or am I fighting a long lost fight? What really irritates me is that Jess and Meg are actually well written characters with at least a decent amount of depth and I like them a lot, but the MC is not even human, more like a fucking bull in breeding season, simple minded, retarded and not seems to have no soul at all just like a fucking robot
You like the mean bitch who is just mean, and the backstabbing jealous bitch who keeps trying to stab her "best friend" in the back? I mean she tries to control MC..."Zoe doesn't deserve him!" bitch, wtf?
 
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aerox1234

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You like the mean bitch who is just mean, and the backstabbing jealous bitch who keeps trying to stab her "best friend" in the back? I mean she tries to control MC..."Zoe doesn't deserve him!" bitch, wtf?
No my friend. I meant that I like that they actually do have a personality and they are written pretty well. Jealousy and guileful behaviour sadly is pretty common. I didnt mean that I think they have desirable characters but at least they give the player some way to feel about them :) btw english is not my main language so I might have some trouble to really make clear how I see things :)
 

Echbert

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No my friend. I meant that I like that they actually do have a personality and they are written pretty well. Jealousy and guileful behaviour sadly is pretty common. I didnt mean that I think they have desirable characters but at least they give the player some way to feel about them :) btw english is not my main language so I might have some trouble to really make clear how I see things :)
Nope you were pretty clear, you said "Well written characters", the person above just wanted to channel their hate of the characters towards you. I agree with many of your points, and i personally stopped being interested in the story as this really felt like a "video game". In S1 they start to hint at what's really going on and you can even see how some of the LI's specifically change to suit the MCs desires, feels less like an actual romance story and really just a straight up fuck simlulator. It's got some really great renders though. It's a shame because there was some serious potential there, all the LI's even have solid background that could have allowed them to develop well.
 

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Nope you were pretty clear, you said "Well written characters", the person above just wanted to channel their hate of the characters towards you. I agree with many of your points, and i personally stopped being interested in the story as this really felt like a "video game". In S1 they start to hint at what's really going on and you can even see how some of the LI's specifically change to suit the MCs desires, feels less like an actual romance story and really just a straight up fuck simlulator. It's got some really great renders though. It's a shame because there was some serious potential there, all the LI's even have solid background that could have allowed them to develop well.
I don't hate him, bruh. I get these traits are realistic. Just makes it hard to enjoy the game when you're fucking women with personalities that make them less sexy. I can't advance the story unless I fuck em. Ugh. The ending fucking sucked too, and yeah, there's WASTED potential. I was hoping to find out what caused Zoe to form a crush on MC, cuz Zoe was a character who had more promise. I mean...ya gotta admire a woman who decides to make the move. She was gonna, and tried, to ask MC out. Don't see that too often.

But to suddenly be all "Oh it's a fake world and for some reason you were chosen, blah blah" Yeah...that was stupid and an excuse.

Now, if you want a game with a similar premise BUT (so far) hasn't fucked up the way this game did, check out Simulation 69. Hell, it is likely making fun of not just this game but the whole world of porn games in general lol.
 

Echbert

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I don't hate him, bruh. I get these traits are realistic. Just makes it hard to enjoy the game when you're fucking women with personalities that make them less sexy. I can't advance the story unless I fuck em. Ugh. The ending fucking sucked too, and yeah, there's WASTED potential. I was hoping to find out what caused Zoe to form a crush on MC, cuz Zoe was a character who had more promise. I mean...ya gotta admire a woman who decides to make the move. She was gonna, and tried, to ask MC out. Don't see that too often.

But to suddenly be all "Oh it's a fake world and for some reason you were chosen, blah blah" Yeah...that was stupid and an excuse.

Now, if you want a game with a similar premise BUT (so far) hasn't fucked up the way this game did, check out Simulation 69. Hell, it is likely making fun of not just this game but the whole world of porn games in general lol.
Pretty sure that there was no real reason, and that the first loop was based of the MC's life, then as he goes through each loop over and over again, the women's "personalities"(Their programs not AI, so they don't actually have personalities, just parameters) continue to change to suit his needs. So in the first loop Megan's secret probably didn't have much to do with her having a crush on MC, just something she wanted him to not know.", then as the lopps progressed The AI changed her to have a crush on the MC. Their "personalities" aren't sexy to you, but the dev can't please everyone now can they? Each character is an archetype meant to fullfill certain kinks. I do agree the forced "choices" feel unecessary, but this whole game was just full of padding, so i'm not surprised really.

Saying all that, if Megan really was going to be another user as implicated by her day, then maybe the devs did have a proer reason.
 
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aerox1234

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Nope you were pretty clear, you said "Well written characters", the person above just wanted to channel their hate of the characters towards you. I agree with many of your points, and i personally stopped being interested in the story as this really felt like a "video game". In S1 they start to hint at what's really going on and you can even see how some of the LI's specifically change to suit the MCs desires, feels less like an actual romance story and really just a straight up fuck simlulator. It's got some really great renders though. It's a shame because there was some serious potential there, all the LI's even have solid background that could have allowed them to develop well.
thats basically how I feel about this game too. The characters are pretty solid and their backstorys could be a good base for some great character arcs but sadly the concept of the game wouldnt allow it. So sadly it cant give me what I look for in AVN's, playing this really just feels like watching some twisted porn video.
 
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aerox1234

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Pretty sure that there was no real reason, and that the first loop was based of the MC's life, then as he goes through each loop over and over again, the women's "personalities"(Their programs not AI, so they don't actually have personalities, just parameters) continue to change to suit his needs. So in the first loop Megan's secret probably didn't have much to do with her having a crush on MC, just something she wanted him to not know.", then as the lopps progressed The AI changed her to have a crush on the MC. Their "personalities" aren't sexy to you, but the dev can't please everyone now can they? Each character is an archetype meant to fullfill certain kinks. I do agree the forced "choices" feel unecessary, but this whole game was just full of padding, so i'm not surprised really.

Saying all that, if Megan really was going to be another user as implicated by her day, then maybe the devs did have a proer reason.
I kinda hoped that the MC was trapped in a cycle by some godlike entity (fate or smth like that) and he had to find his true feelings about each character (friendship or love) in order to escape the cycle. Thats the impression I got when the day didnt repeat after he got close with Jess and I really like that idea, thats what kept me playing. This way the game would continue as you (MC) evolves as a human beeing (growing up) und I would give the game imo a perfect pacing.
 
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here is my unofficial android port of Echoes Of Lust SEASON 1 (Episode1-10) fixed.
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from now on my android ports of Ren'Py games have a 2nd, persistent save location like windows. if you uninstall an app, the save files and persistent data remain intact.
therefore the app needs the permission to access the public external storage, because it has to read and write outside its own external storage directories.
you have to grant the permission or the app is shut down.

have fun and please report problems (you can reach me ).
can't seem to access any of the links above but the ones on S2 version looks fine. are there any alternative links for this? thanks
 

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In season one for the mobile version, the menu controls (skip, back, save, etc) keep disappearing and I was forced to use the icon version only.

I was entirely unable to get the installer for season 2 to work. Attempting to use joiplay with the compressed pc version for now.
 

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can't seem to access any of the links above but the ones on S2 version looks fine. are there any alternative links for this? thanks
actually all 3 links work for me.
In season one for the mobile version, the menu controls (skip, back, save, etc) keep disappearing and I was forced to use the icon version only.

I was entirely unable to get the installer for season 2 to work. Attempting to use joiplay with the compressed pc version for now.
you sould read the spoiler "touch screen usage" and for Season 2 the Download only if you're using Android 11 or newer! part.
 

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you sould read the spoiler "touch screen usage" and for Season 2 the Download only if you're using Android 11 or newer! part.
When you say swipe left and right, are you talking about pinch zoom type actions, or sequential actions or what?

And yeah, the phone I was trying to install it on was running android 9, but joiplay got it running pretty well. Animations even play more smoothly.
 

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When you say swipe left and right, are you talking about pinch zoom type actions, or sequential actions or what?

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You swipe left and right only to find you Tinder app has pulled you into S3 of The Lust Theory and you are now dating Megan and Zoe.

(It's 3 AM where I live and, yes - that is the first thing that came to mind when I saw the swipe comment at the beginning of your post.)

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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