Ren'Py Lust Theory [v0.8.2] [Inceton Games]

[Embercat]

@Embercat

I have so many questions about LT, but I don't want to take up too much of your time. We all know how eager people are for updates. Still, I think it's great of you to take the time to respond to our feedback.

So, if I may ask a few questions. (You're always welcome to say I don't want to answer them.)

First: Will we get an answer to the scene I referred to?

Second: Some of the farewell stories in LT2 felt different from the plot itself. More emotional and less chaotic. Were the main plot and the farewell stories conceived by the same person?

Third: Has it been revealed which arc will be continued next?

And there's more, but I know I have to wait for what's coming. Haha



Threesome

Thanks for that comment. Yeah, I try to make it a point to respond to feedback and to interact with the community, whether it is on Inceton's official Discord or here.

Forgive me for going on a tangent instead of answering your question, but when I first started writing for Inceton, I was glued to the reviews and comments on here. This was for Lust Bound at first, but later for Lust Theory. While I do not wish to cast shade on anyone, I saw a lot of comments and conversations on both pages that I struggled with. I found a lot of negativity and harsh comments shared on both pages. There was good stuff too, praise for the games that I truly valued and which inspired me.

But it was hard dealing with users who would post random comments or complaints, dissing either the game (or at least the seasons preceding my writing) or Inceton as a company.

In many instances, these criticisms I knew weren't aimed at me directly. A user might complain about S2 before I had the privilege of taking over the writer, or their complaints might have been directed at Inceton in general. But in any case, I took these messages to heart, and I don't think posters here appreciated how much of what they were saying was being seen, read, absorbed. To their defense, they couldn't have known, as I was intentionally not posting here for the longest time, just observing.

I have mentioned once before in this forum that I have difficulties with my mental health, a lot of self-doubt, and imposter syndrome that so many creatives suffer with. It's a funny thing, imposter syndrome sucks, but it also drives us to excel and work constantly to better the work we're putting out into the world.

For a time, the more negative comments I read here were a good driving force to keep me motivated. I wanted to show my best self in the stories I'm telling in Lust Theory and Lust Bound. More than that, I wanted and still want to make series and stories people love and adore.

Eventually, I came to the conclusion that being a passive observer on this forum was not working for me. I needed to feel able to defend myself when critique came that I struggled with or felt was unjust. I also wanted players to realize and know that they aren't just screaming into an empty void here. That their words, have weight. I wanted them to see that their criticisms were heard and that I try to keep them in mind to improve, and that their insults I carry with me just as much.

I'm glad I made that commitment to myself. I have found in both the Lust Bound and Lust Theory pages of F95, conversation and comments have been a lot more pleasant since I stepped up and introduced myself as the writer. I like to believe, or at least hope, it might also be a sign that I am doing good work in the game itself and players are resonating with the stories I'm telling, but I also think taking the time to comment, to talk through issues, explain decisions, and stances on things has helped make the discourse here much better. I hope so at least.

I truly value all the comments and questions posted here, and will always endeavor to answer what I feel I can answer when I can.

I know F95 and Inceton do not have the best of relationships. I do not intend to weigh in on that whole thing. But I want players to feel heard, I want them to recognize that heart and soul go into these games, a lot more than some might think. And engaging with players in this space feels like a good way to prove that. And above all else, I want players to enjoy the games Inceton is putting out there to get excited for our releases and want to support us.

Sorry, I 100% haven't answered your question at all there. I just let myself go off on a tangent.

QUESTIONS -

FIRST - Maybe? I'm not going to spoil anything.

SECOND - I believe the farewell stories were written by the same writer who managed season 2. This was before my time, so I can't speak with authority, but I believe it was the same writer. And yes, there was a lot of emotion in those goodbye scenes, something I really wanted to honor and carry forward into LT3.

THIRD - It has not been officially revealed whose arc is up next, so I will keep that under my hat until the announcement.

... I really didn't have many answers to offer to your questions, did I? I'm sorry. :'D

 

[grey_shadow]

Forgive me for going on a tangent instead of answering your question, but when I first started writing for Inceton, I was glued to the reviews and comments on here. This was for Lust Bound at first, but later for Lust Theory. While I do not wish to cast shade on anyone, I saw a lot of comments and conversations on both pages that I struggled with. I found a lot of negativity and harsh comments shared on both pages. There was good stuff too, praise for the games that I truly valued and which inspired me.

But it was hard dealing with users who would post random comments or complaints, dissing either the game (or at least the seasons preceding my writing) or Inceton as a company.

In many instances, these criticisms I knew weren't aimed at me directly. A user might complain about S2 before I had the privilege of taking over the writer, or their complaints might have been directed at Inceton in general. But in any case, I took these messages to heart, and I don't think posters here appreciated how much of what they were saying was being seen, read, absorbed. To their defense, they couldn't have known, as I was intentionally not posting here for the longest time, just observing.

Something that's crucial to remember is that fans are all individuals, and it's never going to be possible to please absolutely everyone.

A lot of internet criticisms are effectively "This isn't exactly the story I (think I) want! It sucks!" or "How dare you write for any set of kinks other than my precise ones?!" - not to say you shouldn't pay attention to some criticism (particularly when it happens to agree with my specific kinks! ) but one of the first questions to ask is whether the criticism is about the story not being the best possible version of the one you're trying to tell, or about it not being the story the writer wants you to tell instead.

 

[Wynnth]

Thanks for that comment. Yeah, I try to make it a point to respond to feedback and to interact with the community, whether it is on Inceton's official Discord or here.

Forgive me for going on a tangent instead of answering your question, but when I first started writing for Inceton, I was glued to the reviews and comments on here. This was for Lust Bound at first, but later for Lust Theory. While I do not wish to cast shade on anyone, I saw a lot of comments and conversations on both pages that I struggled with. I found a lot of negativity and harsh comments shared on both pages. There was good stuff too, praise for the games that I truly valued and which inspired me.

But it was hard dealing with users who would post random comments or complaints, dissing either the game (or at least the seasons preceding my writing) or Inceton as a company.

In many instances, these criticisms I knew weren't aimed at me directly. A user might complain about S2 before I had the privilege of taking over the writer, or their complaints might have been directed at Inceton in general. But in any case, I took these messages to heart, and I don't think posters here appreciated how much of what they were saying was being seen, read, absorbed. To their defense, they couldn't have known, as I was intentionally not posting here for the longest time, just observing.

I have mentioned once before in this forum that I have difficulties with my mental health, a lot of self-doubt, and imposter syndrome that so many creatives suffer with. It's a funny thing, imposter syndrome sucks, but it also drives us to excel and work constantly to better the work we're putting out into the world.

For a time, the more negative comments I read here were a good driving force to keep me motivated. I wanted to show my best self in the stories I'm telling in Lust Theory and Lust Bound. More than that, I wanted and still want to make series and stories people love and adore.

Eventually, I came to the conclusion that being a passive observer on this forum was not working for me. I needed to feel able to defend myself when critique came that I struggled with or felt was unjust. I also wanted players to realize and know that they aren't just screaming into an empty void here. That their words, have weight. I wanted them to see that their criticisms were heard and that I try to keep them in mind to improve, and that their insults I carry with me just as much.

I'm glad I made that commitment to myself. I have found in both the Lust Bound and Lust Theory pages of F95, conversation and comments have been a lot more pleasant since I stepped up and introduced myself as the writer. I like to believe, or at least hope, it might also be a sign that I am doing good work in the game itself and players are resonating with the stories I'm telling, but I also think taking the time to comment, to talk through issues, explain decisions, and stances on things has helped make the discourse here much better. I hope so at least.

I truly value all the comments and questions posted here, and will always endeavor to answer what I feel I can answer when I can.

I know F95 and Inceton do not have the best of relationships. I do not intend to weigh in on that whole thing. But I want players to feel heard, I want them to recognize that heart and soul go into these games, a lot more than some might think. And engaging with players in this space feels like a good way to prove that. And above all else, I want players to enjoy the games Inceton is putting out there to get excited for our releases and want to support us.

Sorry, I 100% haven't answered your question at all there. I just let myself go off on a tangent.

QUESTIONS -

FIRST - Maybe? I'm not going to spoil anything.

SECOND - I believe the farewell stories were written by the same writer who managed season 2. This was before my time, so I can't speak with authority, but I believe it was the same writer. And yes, there was a lot of emotion in those goodbye scenes, something I really wanted to honor and carry forward into LT3.

THIRD - It has not been officially revealed whose arc is up next, so I will keep that under my hat until the announcement.

... I really didn't have many answers to offer to your questions, did I? I'm sorry. :'D

First of all, I want to thank you for your thoughtful and detailed perspective on the comments in this forum. The internet can truly be a double-edged sword, especially when it comes to interactivity. Some people seem to forget there are consequences to what they post. Lately, I’ve been leaning more toward the belief that social media does more harm than good. I'm grateful to live in a country where hate speech is taken seriously and can be punished.


I can also understand Inceton's position on this platform. However, as you mentioned, it’s probably best not to dive too deeply into that topic.


On a more positive note, I agree that the feedback here has become more constructive thanks to the way comments are being managed. I remember a recent post that started with a lot of frustration toward LT, but after your response, the tone shifted, and the author became much more respectful.


I had a feeling my questions might be a bit too specific, but I'm glad I asked anyway. It was worth the try!

 

[smasher_the_smith]

A lot of internet criticisms are effectively "This isn't exactly the story I (think I) want! It sucks!" or "How dare you write for any set of kinks other than my precise ones?!"

Finally, someone gets it! All games should be made for me exclusively. Screw all you suckers.

(That's a joke, don't hate me.)

I saw a lot of comments and conversations on both pages that I struggled with. I found a lot of negativity and harsh comments shared on both pages. There was good stuff too, praise for the games that I truly valued and which inspired me.

But it was hard dealing with users who would post random comments or complaints, dissing either the game (or at least the seasons preceding my writing) or Inceton as a company.

In many instances, these criticisms I knew weren't aimed at me directly. A user might complain about S2 before I had the privilege of taking over the writer, or their complaints might have been directed at Inceton in general. But in any case, I took these messages to heart, and I don't think posters here appreciated how much of what they were saying was being seen, read, absorbed. To their defense, they couldn't have known, as I was intentionally not posting here for the longest time, just observing.

I have mentioned once before in this forum that I have difficulties with my mental health, a lot of self-doubt, and imposter syndrome that so many creatives suffer with. It's a funny thing, imposter syndrome sucks, but it also drives us to excel and work constantly to better the work we're putting out into the world.

For a time, the more negative comments I read here were a good driving force to keep me motivated. I wanted to show my best self in the stories I'm telling in Lust Theory and Lust Bound. More than that, I wanted and still want to make series and stories people love and adore.

Yeah, sorry. We can be a bit critical at times and even more so when we don't think the people we're complaining about are watching. I'm not going to pretend I'm not guilty of that myself. I didn't hold anything back in my Shackbang review.

For what it is worth, I have been really impressed with both you and ReiCaixa's writing for your respective games and your willingness to engage on this forum. I don't know that I could do the same if I were in your shoes. I like Lust Theory 3 and Resort of Temptation enough that I intend to purchase them on Steam when they release. There's only a handful of adult games I liked enough to do that for. Most I get more enjoyment out of modding to fix them than I do actually playing them. Also, if one of you two end up writing the Shackbang remake when that comes up I'll probably buy that one too. Just maybe don't read my review of it, heh.

I haven't tried Lust Bound yet because it isn't tagged as having anal and I don't play very many games without anal (my signature isn't a lie) but I have been considering it given how much I like LT-S3.

 

[saltynip]

Your instincts are on the money. I'm the 'new writer' in question. I took over the writing and narrative design for Lust Theory S3 and am also the writer and story designer for Lust Bound.
It's really great to hear that my writing style and approach to the story feel like improvements to you. Thanks for that. Hope you continue to feel this improvement going into the future.

Very good job to save this game from its disastrous season 2 storyline, now characters have more depth, not just a prop anymore, hats off to you~

 

[IfuckKayane&Vania]

I have mentioned once before in this forum that I have difficulties with my mental health, a lot of self-doubt, and imposter syndrome that so many creatives suffer with.

To make it short: No reasons for self-doubts or an imposter syndrome. You do a good job, the story is entertaining, the sex scenes are great and inventive (I loved this threesome). You got a fine intuition for drama and fun and you created a good mix of both. You may be a newcomer, but a talented one. Go your way and everything will be fine! (And please give us finally some Ellie-"Food"!! )

 

[lev237]

So no bonus renders in this update, am I correct? The ones which get activated by pressing Inceton button in the upper right corner. I haven't seen it since 7.3

 

[dweely]

@Embercat

I have so many questions about LT, but I don't want to take up too much of your time. We all know how eager people are for updates. Still, I think it's great of you to take the time to respond to our feedback.

So, if I may ask a few questions. (You're always welcome to say I don't want to answer them.)

First: Will we get an answer to the scene I referred to?

Second: Some of the farewell stories in LT2 felt different from the plot itself. More emotional and less chaotic. Were the main plot and the farewell stories conceived by the same person?

Third: Has it been revealed which arc will be continued next?

Fourth: Will there be an update that includes partial voice-over, or will that only come once everything else is finished and in one big release update?


And there's more, but I know I have to wait for what's coming. Haha



Threesome

There wont be any continuyty after Lt3, since they clearly stated on steam that at the end of LT3 thats it! game is done. it suck that everything good must end but stil replay the game all the time

I guess on part that nearly made me piss in my pant cause i laughed too much, was when the MC goe in his room i cant sdie, i must be a god!!

mwahahaaha but yeah, theyre ending Lt game after this one and move on to Unreal lust theory from whats ive heard

 

[CJAM2002]

So no bonus renders in this update, am I correct? The ones which get activated by pressing Inceton button in the upper right corner. I haven't seen it since 7.3

There haven't been those bonus renders for a long while, even in their other games. They're seemingly going to be completed for the full release on Steam.

There wont be any continuyty after Lt3, since they clearly stated on steam that at the end of LT3 thats it! game is done. it suck that everything good must end but stil replay the game all the time

I guess on part that nearly made me piss in my pant cause i laughed too much, was when the MC goe in his room i cant sdie, i must be a god!!

mwahahaaha but yeah, theyre ending Lt game after this one and move on to Unreal lust theory from whats ive heard

We don't know that. Thot on Trial, their NTR game that released a couple months ago was also seemingly a one and done game until it ended on a cliffhanger for a second season that was never advertised as such prior to the games release.

They're going to be having a patreon poll after LT3, Undercover with Nora, and Lust Bound 1 are completed. It's entirely possible that based on what they decide to put on that poll, we'll end up getting another season of LT.

 

[shadowfang22]

kinda makes u wonder if their not going for a 4th season of lust theory lol

 

[ArtemisLambert]

kinda makes u wonder if their not going for a 4th season of lust theory lol

Well, Carol can always go rogue again, or a virus might infect her. Maybe there's a rival of Alice working in the shadows to keep us entertained in the future... the LT formula can be milked as long as there are solid plots and cool scenes to go with it.

 

[HughMungusMan]

Well, Carol can always go rogue again, or a virus might infect her. Maybe there's a rival of Alice working in the shadows to keep us entertained in the future... the LT formula can be milked as long as there are solid plots and cool scenes to go with it.

Yes and no I suppose. Carol could very well be destroyed or decommissioned at the end of this game for all we know (in fact if you want any stakes to stick, the last thing you'd want is to end on Alice going "oh yeah I fixed the time-traveling godlike AI, she's now error free and friendly, so let's just have her rewrite reality and take away anything bad that happened!").

Hell it's already a bit of a stretch that MC isn't just storming into Alice's garage and telling Carol "I'm not going anywhere until you tell me why you fucking lied to me about the end of the world."

Besides, looping the day is well and dandy but you need MC to first have relationships to develop over the course of a day, which if this game ends with him settling nicely with one (or two) LI(s) just isn't on the table. And while it's easy to forget, a lot of LT is dedicated to the mystery of the loops and the story tends to progress when a new kink is thrown into how we thought they worked. Now we still have a few questions regarding Carol but once they're solved, that's pretty much it on that front. (I guess if they start up again, one could always wonder why they suddenly started back up.)

Not to say there aren't ways to create a new game with new takes on both of those elements, but at some point it's gonna lose steam and interest. You don't want to milk a good thing until it becomes a bad thing or people get tired of it, I'd much rather see Lust Theory (at least in its current form) end on a high note.

 

[ZenoMod]

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Let me guess: you entered Threesome or THREESOME with one or more capital letters.

I just tried entering Threesome with capital T and that's what I got:


While by entering threesome all in lowercase letters, that's what I get:


The font displays all letters in uppercase anyway, but the underlying Ren'Py/Python code accurately captures the case of each individual character exactly as you type it, so make sure Caps Lock is turned off and never press Shift while entering the bonus code.

 

[glassofwater22]

Update was fine, except for one thing.

They totally missed out on a second threesome and just fast forwarded it!

MC had the chance to fuck both Amy and Sophie at the same time or alternating between them, and I'm pretty sure Amy was all game for it too. I just don't understand why it was glossed over. I hope that gets fixed in a future update, because seeing the MC fuck Amy and Sophie kissing each other and the MC gets to take his sweet sweet time switching between them both with lots of dialogue.

 

[Embercat]

Update was fine, except for one thing.

They totally missed out on a second threesome and just fast forwarded it!

MC had the chance to fuck both Amy and Sophie at the same time or alternating between them, and I'm pretty sure Amy was all game for it too. I just don't understand why it was glossed over. I hope that gets fixed in a future update, because seeing the MC fuck Amy and Sophie kissing each other and the MC gets to take his sweet sweet time switching between them both with lots of dialogue.

I see what you're saying, and there's definitely an argument for a Sophie and Amy Threesome happening there.

The reason I didn't go there during Amy's route was that

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As mentioned, a threesome COULD have happened there, and it might have been spicy, but I didn't feel it fit the story at that point or honored the characters in that moment.

 

[carmafia]

I don't want to play it until the Elizabeth scene appears

 

[glassofwater22]

I see what you're saying, and there's definitely an argument for a Sophie and Amy Threesome happening there.

The reason I didn't go there during Amy's route was that

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As mentioned, a threesome COULD have happened there, and it might have been spicy, but I didn't feel it fit the story at that point or honored the characters in that moment.

Fair enough, would love to see it play out in a future update. Even if only a loop. It would be insanely hot and kinky. Would love to see the MC creampie them both like Olaf did with Jennifer and Nicole in the NTR.

 

[jobu123]

Playing through season 2 atm and can't scroll back on dialogue. Mouse wheel doesn't work, pg up/down doesn't work. Any idea why and how to fix it?

 

[devonY7]

Playing through season 2 atm and can't scroll back on dialogue. Mouse wheel doesn't work, pg up/down doesn't work. Any idea why and how to fix it?

did you enable it in settings ?

 

[jobu123]

did you enable it in settings ?

No, I don't see anything in settings that looks like it has anything to do with that