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Once Yona becomes knock-up-able then we come even closer to getting the other main NPCs to that point too!
That's true for sure. I'm waiting for the opportunity for the game to go at a discount so I can buy it to support it.

Yeah! I can't wait to make Man, Takumi and Keigo pregnant too.

...hey, Mad Island is pretty much the only game where something like that could conceivably happen. We can already create an army of little Sadakos, for fuck's sake (although it's not very effective).
Ahh... I mean... sure. It does fit the theme, doesn't it.
 
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Yeah! I can't wait to make Man, Takumi and Keigo pregnant too.

...hey, Mad Island is pretty much the only game where something like that could conceivably happen. We can already create an army of little Sadakos, for fuck's sake (although it's not very effective).
Mini-explosion was kinda effective?
 

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I am hoping that Man x Yona relationship can be completed early into the game and hopefully not one of those situations where you have to beat the entire game to get any consensual sex between the two.

Cause I would absolutely hate it if Man and Yona has to essentially fucked everything under the sun before they get can get it on with each other or hold off on all other content till the end so they can be each other's first.

As in Yona getting to be first girl of the harem, and not the last.
 
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I am hoping that Man x Yona relationship (sex interactions) can be completed early into the game and hopefully not one of those situations where you can only get any action all the way at the end of the game where Man and Yona has essentially fucked everything under the sun before they get can get it on with each other.
I mean… it’s up to you if they do fuck everything though? I’m not 100% sure but I think everyone except Mermaid can be recruited without sex.
 

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I mean… it’s up to you if they do fuck everything though? I’m not 100% sure but I think everyone except Mermaid can be recruited without sex.
You responded before I finished editing my post.

But my point is I am worried about two different issues.

1. Having to wait all the way till end since that would just be annoying since Man can basically hookup with every girl he encounters after a couple of quick and easy quests, while with Yona he would have to essentially conqueror the entire island before anything happened.

2. You would have to essentially avoid most of the sex events with other characters like the Giant, Sally, Shino, etc... if you want Yona to be the first girl Man has sex with, which would be problematic if Yona's sex events are locked all the way till the end. Also that would prevent you from starting a colony with her being the main girl and her offspring instead of always having to get some random native for Man to impregnate or random native to impregnate Yona.
 

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Mini-explosion was kinda effective?
Maybe just have to level them up a bunch or put them out of harm's way as a ranged solution. And don't forget the boy's ranged stun attack is like nothing else in the game.

Both of them are fun for grinding Rucks. The boy will do ALL the work, if you've levelled him up well. He'll knock out all the Rucks, and outright kill everything else. Just have to be careful getting too close to the Dark Trees, as he moves in too close and gets knocked.

But even the girl is great. Her slightly slow attack means you can easily Chaos Wand the Rucks while she runs about murdering everything else that tries to bother you. I have one trained up now to where she does >1000 damage. She one-hits everything.
 

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You responded before I finished editing my post.

But my point is I am worried about two different issues.

1. Having to wait all the way till end since that would just be annoying since Man can basically hookup with every girl he encounters after a couple of quick and easy quests, while with Yona he would have to essentially conqueror the entire island before anything happened.

2. You would have to essentially avoid most of the sex events with other characters like the Giant, Sally, Shino, etc... if you want Yona to be the first girl Man has sex with, which would be problematic if Yona's sex events are locked all the way till the end. Also that would prevent you from starting a colony with her being the main girl and her offspring instead of always having to get some random native for Man to impregnate or random native to impregnate Yona.
See the problem is how story attached Yona is, I could see her taking until you get to the end since I feel she'll need all her friends before she'll think romantically. Nami is the big wrench in that gear.

Maybe just have to level them up a bunch or put them out of harm's way as a ranged solution. And don't forget the boy's ranged stun attack is like nothing else in the game.

Both of them are fun for grinding Rucks. The boy will do ALL the work, if you've levelled him up well. He'll knock out all the Rucks, and outright kill everything else. Just have to be careful getting too close to the Dark Trees, as he moves in too close and gets knocked.

But even the girl is great. Her slightly slow attack means you can easily Chaos Wand the Rucks while she runs about murdering everything else that tries to bother you. I have one trained up now to where she does >1000 damage. She one-hits everything.
Oh that wasn't for me. I'm gonna use Mini-Sadako since Sadako is my favorite generic in the game having a mini version is just gravy.
 

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I mean… it’s up to you if they do fuck everything though? I’m not 100% sure but I think everyone except Mermaid can be recruited without sex.
Don't you have to endure Shino's boob-job (And thus afterwards fucking) before you can recruit her?
I think Sally also needs to be fucked to properly recruit her.
 

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Don't you have to endure Shino's boob-job (And thus afterwards fucking) before you can recruit her?
I think Sally also needs to be fucked to properly recruit her.
Nope if you turn Shino down you'll skip the scene but she'll still be recruited and same for Sally. I have always rejected Sally after her fight and she still joins.
 

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Nope if you turn Shino down you'll skip the scene but she'll still be recruited and same for Sally. I have always rejected Sally after her fight and she still joins.
But can you still fuck them after recruiting?
I know that you can loose a certain pose with Reika, if you miss out an a certain way to handle her relationship.
 

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See the problem is how story attached Yona is, I could see her taking until you get to the end since I feel she'll need all her friends before she'll think romantically. Nami is the big wrench in that gear.
Yes that is what I was worried about. The last version I played was .27 and in it when she was introducing Man to Takumi at the bridge in the chaos lands she was like oh he just been my companion the entire time ( :poop::poop:o_O o_O:cautious::cautious: friend zoned). I haven't played the Nami storyline yet, but from the comments I saw in the thread when it first came out. I was like damn it so Nami is probably going to be Yona's main love interest assuming that Yona doesn't get raped or have sex with anything else before. And then I saw options for Man to corrupt / rape Nami which I imagine will cause problems between Yona and Man later on in the story.

So everything narratively in the story just seems like Man and Yona weren't going to have any romantic relationship, and seems pretty late to change.

I just went and read the comments (via Google Translate) on Cien, oh no it doesn't seem like we're going to get early romance between the two.

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My guess the story will probably will just be;

Yona: "oh thanks for saving all my friends, I guess we'll be leaving now".

Man will be like: "nope you're mine now after all that work".

Then Man gets revealed to as the final end game boss with the outcome based on previous decisions. Where she willing joins after she and her friends get beaten, Man enslaves them all, or either Man or Yona dies.
 
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But can you still fuck them after recruiting?
I know that you can loose a certain pose with Reika, if you miss out an a certain way to handle her relationship.
I'm not sure with Shino. Sally only has 1 sex scene and you can still do that if her affection is high enough.
 

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I'm not sure with Shino. Sally only has 1 sex scene and you can still do that if her affection is high enough.
I thought with the Giant, Sally, and Shino you have to agree to have sex with them while recruiting them otherwise you can't have sex with them later?

Either way I just really hope we can have consensual sex with Yona before doing the events for all the other girls however unlikely that is.
 

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I thought with the Giant, Sally, and Shino you have to agree to have sex with them while recruiting them otherwise you can't have sex with them later?

Either way I just really hope we can have consensual sex with Yona before doing the events for all the other girls however unlikely that is.
I have done the Sally one every time so I know that is true but... again not tried for Shino's second scene and who would turn down Giant?
 

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I have done the Sally one every time so I know that is true but... again not tried for Shino's second scene and who would turn down Giant?
That exactly my point. I wouldn't ever want to turn down the giant, and break her heart since she is super cute. But same time still want Man and Yona to be each other's first.

Usually when I start a new playthrough I usually wait to have sex with either the Giant or Sally first since we can't have sex with Yona consexually yet.

I am also not a fan Shino, hopefully we can change her body down road. I usually hold off on getting her till very late into the game because of that.
 

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That exactly my point. I wouldn't ever want to turn down the giant, and break her heart since she is super cute. But same time still want Man and Yona to be each other's first.

Usually when I start a new playthrough I usually wait to have sex with either the Giant or Sally first since we can't have sex with Yona consexually yet.

I am also not a fan Shino, hopefully we can change her body down road. I usually hold off on getting her till very late into the game because of that.
I just mean it's still an option even if none would take it. I still think it will be late due to Nami.
 

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Without exploiting NPC survivor mode, decoy charm, and purple stun spike traps. What is the best way to defeat a raid with only stun damage, and having your NPCs do most of the fighting without getting wiped out?

Cause I have tried equipping all my female, male, dlc female, dlc male natives with iron clubs and they always lose and get wiped out. Because they only do 10 stun damage while raiders do a ton of regular damage, since their stun damage is purely tied to the weapon they are using, and increasing attack damage in their stats doesn't increase their stun damage values.

Cause I want to just capture all the female raiders after placing flower totem poles without killing them. The purple stun spike trap with an invincible NPC gets kind of boring to watch and feels overly cheaty.
 
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Without exploiting NPC survivor mode, decoy charm, and purple stun spike traps. What is the best way to defeat a raid with only stun damage, and having your NPCs do most of the fighting without getting wiped out?

Cause I have tried equipping all my female, male, dlc female, dlc male natives with iron clubs and they always lose and get wiped out. Because they only do 10 stun damage while raiders do a ton of regular damage, since their stun damage is purely tied to the weapon they are using, and increasing attack damage in their stats doesn't increase their stun damage values.

Cause I want to just capture all the female raiders after placing flower totem poles without killing them. The purple stun spike trap with an invincible NPC gets kind of boring to watch and feels overly cheaty.
Without using Man or Yona, or meat walls and traps?

Well... need to get Corrupt Lizards and Death Note Ls (AKA Elite Underground Young Men) then, since they deal stun damage that scale up with their attack. (L also has an AoE stun orb they'll use occasionally.) They have bad ATK scaling with STR though (because TON really hates giving the player easy access to high stun damage), so need quite a while to level them up with XP berries or as a follower leeching XP from your kills. Or the even slower way via sandbag training.

As an interim solution you can equip your native friendlies with pumpkin clubs (drop from Halloween raids) which deal 15 stun damage instead of 10. Then use food that give you +faint damage on raids. Veggie Pizza is best for this (it's also the food with the highest +atk speed bonus) but if you're really desperate you can use the cannibal foods that give +1 or +2 faint.

Oh and heart arrows also let NPCs (and you) deal stun damage. The damage is fixed to the bow's base damage though. So give heart arrows to all your female natives and DLC females (make sure it's the leftmost arrow in their inventory so they'll use it), and chaos/pretty bows to female natives and regular bows to DLC females (they can't equip the better bow) so they can deal 15 and 8 stun damage from range. Plus your raid food faint damage bonus. Stack a hundred +2 faint food and this can easily be 215 stun damage per shot. (208 for DLC females)
 
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Death Note Ls (AKA Underground Young Men)
Lol, glad to see I wasn't the only one thought they look like L.

Well... need to get Corrupt Lizards and Death Note Ls (AKA Underground Young Men) then, since they deal stun damage that scale up with their attack. They have bad ATK scaling with STR though (because TON really hates giving the player easy access to high stun damage), so need quite a while to level them up with XP berries or as a follower leeching XP from your kills. Or the even slower way via sandbag training.
So Corrupt Lizards and Underground Young Men are the only ones that have non-weapon scalable stun damage?


As an interim solution you can equip your native friendlies with pumpkin clubs (drop from Halloween raids) which deal 15 stun damage instead of 10. Then use food that give you +faint damage on raids. Veggie Pizza is best for this (it's also the food with the highest +atk speed bonus) but if you're really desperate you can use the cannibal foods that give +1 or +2 faint.

Oh and heart arrows also let NPCs (and you) deal stun damage. The damage is fixed to the bow's base damage though. So give heart arrows to all your female natives and DLC females (make sure it's the leftmost arrow in their inventory so they'll use it), and chaos/pretty bows to female natives and regular bows to DLC females (they can't equip the better bow) so they can deal 15 and 8 stun damage from range. Plus your raid food faint damage bonus. Stack a hundred +2 faint food and this can easily be 215 stun damage per shot. (208 for DLC females)
Guess that was where I was going wrong. Since I never made any food for my NPCs.

Any tips on to place food in a nice way without just having like 10 tables right next to each other? Cause I want my settlements to still look kind of natural without it looking like some ultra meta gamer cheese factory.
 
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