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In my house there is only one bathroom. The MC can spend 48 minutes there alone and several times that with one of the girls in nice discussion or with some perhaps even more pleasant action. The other folks might naturally be much, much faster with their baths & leaks, but even then then the bathroom could be a little bit inadequate for any larger household, I tend to think.

Luckily there is that huge yard with fx. a lush grove (that could actually turn into a flush grove, who knows), big garden or even several that are mentioned to be equipped with advanced irrigation - euphemism for heavy pissing, probably - a shrine offering nice hiding place for dropping... uh... a prayer or two. Stables are very popular among the girls. Perhaps because no-one wonders too much if there are some wet spots on the floor there. The horses must do what they need to do, we are aware of that - but even then there are not too many places where people can wash themselves clean, I imagine.

Realism isn't big issue, I agree - but even some small issues might finally need a solution. Thus the pool could serve as a relatively nice thing for hygiene in the end, methinks. Ikaanians are told to be productive and smart. I find it possible that they could take turns when they wash themselves in the pool OR showers in case there are such things available. Perhaps - just perhaps - it is not compulsory to jump in the pool everyone together.
Your chain of argument is the exact reason for my comment. Once you start with the realism argument you open the box of Pandora. Take the morning blow job just as an example. Not every girl will properly swallow every time, which means both the bed as well as the participants are anything but clean afterwards. And yet - no such thing currently happens as both walk away 'clean'. You will find many of those examples and that requires a rewrite of at least one mechanic if not several.
 

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Your chain of argument is the exact reason for my comment. Once you start with the realism argument you open the box of Pandora. Take the morning blow job just as an example. Not every girl will properly swallow every time, which means both the bed as well as the participants are anything but clean afterwards. And yet - no such thing currently happens as both walk away 'clean'. You will find many of those examples and that requires a rewrite of at least one mechanic if not several.
Well, in MY house the MC uses only one girl for the traditional moblow - not everyone... :)
(Aria's code name isn't Swallow for nothing, I imagine)
 

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In my house there is only one bathroom. The MC can spend 48 minutes there alone and several times that with one of the girls in nice discussion or with some perhaps even more pleasant action. The other folks might naturally be much, much faster with their baths & leaks, but even then then the bathroom could be a little bit inadequate for any larger household, I tend to think.

Luckily there is that huge yard with fx. a lush grove (that could actually turn into a flush grove, who knows), big garden or even several that are mentioned to be equipped with advanced irrigation - euphemism for heavy pissing, probably - a shrine offering nice hiding place for dropping... uh... a prayer or two. Stables are very popular among the girls. Perhaps because no-one wonders too much if there are some wet spots on the floor there. The horses must do what they need to do, we are aware of that - but even then there are not too many places where people can wash themselves clean, I imagine.

Realism isn't big issue, I agree - but even some small issues might finally need a solution. Thus the pool could serve as a relatively nice thing for hygiene in the end, methinks. Ikaanians are told to be productive and smart. I find it possible that they could take turns when they wash themselves in the pool OR showers in case there are such things available. Perhaps - just perhaps - it is not compulsory to jump in the pool everyone together.
Doesn't the dorm furniture include X number of toilets?

So it's not as If there's only one toilet.

But it's a game, there's always a level of suspension of disbelief, particularly if you consider how the number of possible house inhabitants has gone up dramatically.
 

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Your chain of argument is the exact reason for my comment. Once you start with the realism argument you open the box of Pandora. Take the morning blow job just as an example. Not every girl will properly swallow every time, which means both the bed as well as the participants are anything but clean afterwards. And yet - no such thing currently happens as both walk away 'clean'. You will find many of those examples and that requires a rewrite of at least one mechanic if not several.
I'd actually like to see more grounds for punishment in game, one of them being failure to properly swallow. Pretty common even in real-world BDSM for a sub to be punished for spilling master's cum.
 
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What happens if Aria isn't up for the task of leading the 3.Reich.. i mean republic :HideThePain:..? Can she be installed as a Chancellor with 0 willpower and low intellect? I'm not even close to check it out myself but the wiki only talks about how to make her the bestest goodest Chancellor.
 
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What happens if Aria isn't up for the task of leading the 3.Reich.. i mean republic :HideThePain:..? Can she be installed as a Chancellor with 0 willpower and low intellect? I'm not even close to check it out myself but the wiki only talks about how to make her the bestest goodest Chancellor.
There are some leader events for Aria that happen after she is chancellor that she can succeed or fail at depending on her training. I don't know what the thresholds are for succeeding. I had no issues with her succeeding at all of the events I saw but I trained her pretty extensively before doing the rebellion when I tried it. I did have a game where I tried it without training her at all and she failed every event.
 

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I did have a game where I tried it without training her at all and she failed every event.
That is exactly what i'm curious to know. That how impactful those events are? Or all the training and preparation is just to to see her succeed at a handful of largely irrelevant events?

That the difference between win or fail at "ruling" is really just a matter of semantics.
 
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That is exactly what i'm curious to know. That how impactful those events are? Or all the training and preparation is just to to see her succeed at a handful of largely irrelevant events?

That the difference between win or fail at "ruling" is really just a matter of semantics.
It's been too long since I got that far for me to remember specific events but think of it like Nicole's news room job on steroids. She has a major impact on the game. As an example, when I first completed the rebellion in my last game that went that far, republic standing went from near zero to maxed out at 80. That's a huge change and that's before she even had any random events after being installed as chancellor. So you might have different goals for what you want her rule to be like but you don't want her to be an incompetent ruler who fails at everything.
 

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What happens if Aria isn't up for the task of leading the 3.Reich.. i mean republic :HideThePain:..? Can she be installed as a Chancellor with 0 willpower and low intellect? I'm not even close to check it out myself but the wiki only talks about how to make her the bestest goodest Chancellor.
In my current game-effort I pushed to chancellor one quite modest version of Aria. NOT 0 willpower, quite, I admit. (She had minus 15 at the time and her intellect was pretty modest 45.) Not a complete moron but not a genius either, I tend to think. Took some planning and I had much fun doing what I did. She is still chancellor after a couple of months there.

Edit: I don't think she will be really challenged too soon, either. She sucks like a pro! :giggle:
 
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Any idea what events you can trigger with 's trait ?

I tried searching for "traitvestal" in the code but didn't see anything related to events. By the way, there's either a bug in the effects or description.
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<<if _npc.happiness lte 72>><<set _npc.masterlove+=3>><</if>>
This raises affection by 3, but the description says it should raise happiness.
 

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Any idea what events you can trigger with 's trait ?

I tried searching for "traitvestal" in the code but didn't see anything related to events. By the way, there's either a bug in the effects or description.
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<<if _npc.happiness lte 72>><<set _npc.masterlove+=3>><</if>>
This raises affection by 3, but the description says it should raise happiness.
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For several times now when i want to start a new game, instead of making a character i get stuck at the creation scene because i end up stopping doing it to just listen to that ambient music! This goddamn music.. it's great.
 

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That is exactly what i'm curious to know. That how impactful those events are? Or all the training and preparation is just to to see her succeed at a handful of largely irrelevant events?

That the difference between win or fail at "ruling" is really just a matter of semantics.
So if you're looking for an example of something she can do as a ruler that has a major impact she can make slavery illegal. Pretty sure she won't do that if you don't train her so not a huge risk unless you actually want that to happen and train her up specifically because you want that.

If you have like 80 slaves in your household it might be... inconvenient if you were suddenly faced with some kind of penalty for 80 illegal slaves or maybe lose them all. I don't actually know what happens if she does that. I believe that's why Grim added that forged documents thing to turn slaves into convicts though so you can kind of skirt the no slaves thing. It's expensive though, both from a money and an influence standpoint.
 

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I don't actually know what happens if she does that.
That's Full Democracy for you.
"Slavery has been declared illegal. All slave markets and missions are closed or terminated and holding slaves (not convicts) in your household will decrease your Influence with 10 points per day, per slave NPC"
Pretty sure she won't do that if you don't train her
According to Clemency, if she has high corruption she won't.
 

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90 Liberty is so hard to get. I'm still at 39 Liberty. Keep her corruption above 50 if you do not want that. But even if she slips below 50 for a bit, her chances of getting a Liberty raise are not really great afaik.
 

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A couple of questions:

1. Can you actually just break Aria and gift her away as the quest suggests?

2. What's the effect of having a girl sleep on your floor? Couldn't find anything about that in the wiki.
 

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2. What's the effect of having a girl sleep on your floor? Couldn't find anything about that in the wiki.
Submissive:
"...You can also increase this trait (15% chance/night) by letting an NPC sleep on your floor, as long as her WILLPOWER is below 40..."
 
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