VN Ren'Py Mila AI [v1.5.3public] [aDDont]

[aDDont]

Do you know what I would also love to see? i scene based on the header image of this thread

You mean Paul, Bob and Dick with Mila at the same time?

 

[dnylive]

You mean Paul, Bob and Dick with Mila at the same time?

Could be added as a holiday special or DLC, so not canon.

 

[Saerwen]

You mean Paul, Bob and Dick with Mila at the same time?

Well, Mila have three holes, they need to be plugged and filled.

 

[Princess Groundhog]

Well, Mila have three holes, they need to be plugged and filled.

As Liz watches while Kiki eats her out.

 

[NeonMordor]

Yeah! I meant exactly everything what was said above.

 

[TheresiaW]

Lmao, really, a vanilla update for *this* game?

The people who demand vanilla from NTR-games are the same types who will enter a sushiplace and order a plate of fries, lmao.

I recommend reading the very first post with the game description before complaining about the game content.
It literally says already in the third sentence:

There are three paths in the game - NTR (cheating), Loyal and NTS (sharing).

 

[fxhnd]

When will be 1.5.0 version released for free?

 

[aDDont]

When will be 1.5.0 version released for free?

Probably this week)

 

[Robin_Scales]

You do realise that 3 routes (with various sub routes) were planned from the start?
What a way to embarass yourself, lmao

Oh I am and was well aware. The driving philosophy in modern gaming tends to be "mass appeal at all costs"

Which means that every game needs a halfassed attempt at appealing to every demographic.
Unwanted NTR in vanilla games and unwanted vanilla in NTR games.

I think my "french fries in a sushi place" remains spot-on as an allegory.
Sure, you CAN hypothetically enter a sushi place and order the kids menu. They likely have it on the menu, on the occasion some dude enters a sushi-place without liking Sushi.
But then, why the fuck wouldn't you just hit up the Maccies down the street, which specializes in that shit?

 

[TheresiaW]

Oh I am and was well aware. The driving philosophy in modern gaming tends to be "mass appeal at all costs"

Which means that every game needs a halfassed attempt at appealing to every demographic.
Unwanted NTR in vanilla games and unwanted vanilla in NTR games.

I think my "french fries in a sushi place" remains spot-on as an allegory.
Sure, you CAN hypothetically enter a sushi place and order the kids menu. They likely have it on the menu, on the occasion some dude enters a sushi-place without liking Sushi.
But then, why the fuck wouldn't you just hit up the Maccies down the street, which specializes in that shit?

I understand your point. Personally, I also prefer things that specialize in one thing rather than appealing to all target groups.

But in this case, hardly anyone paid for this game, and most people enjoy it for free. So the question is what vision the developer has and what kind of game he wants to program for himself.

aDDont has already said in this thread that he wants to make his own game, not someone else's. And at the beginning, he said right from the start that he wants to offer a loyalty route.

I've played through all the available routes. I don't like all of them equally, but each has its place. MilaAI is one of the few games where I actually like the fact that they offer fundamentally different routes that differ greatly from each other.

And so it's like comparing restaurants. If you don't like what the chef is cooking, go somewhere else or pay a chef to cook exactly what you want to eat.

 

[Rehwyn]

Oh I am and was well aware. The driving philosophy in modern gaming tends to be "mass appeal at all costs"

Which means that every game needs a halfassed attempt at appealing to every demographic.
Unwanted NTR in vanilla games and unwanted vanilla in NTR games.

I think my "french fries in a sushi place" remains spot-on as an allegory.
Sure, you CAN hypothetically enter a sushi place and order the kids menu. They likely have it on the menu, on the occasion some dude enters a sushi-place without liking Sushi.
But then, why the fuck wouldn't you just hit up the Maccies down the street, which specializes in that shit?

Except it's not solely a sushi place and it's not advertised as one. To continue your allegory, from very early on it's been clear that "sushi" will be offered, but so will two other styles of cuisine. It's not something that was planned later to placate people that wanted something other than sushi, but something the "restaurant" owner wanted to do from the start. It just so happens that they set up their sushi menu before the others.

Now, one could maybe make the argument that it might have been more efficient to open a chain of different restaurants over time. But that's clearly not what they wanted to do. So if having a broader menu is a problem for a "restaurant" patron, they really can only blame themselves for deciding to eat here.

 

[dnylive]

I think my "french fries in a sushi place" remains spot-on as an allegory.

It does, just not in this game thread.

 

[Saerwen]

Sushi can't compare to cooked fish. Speaking of food, Mila is perfect for being a Nyotaimori model.

 

[Rehwyn]

Sushi can't compare to cooked fish. Speaking of food, Mila is perfect for being a Nyotaimori model.

Honestly, all this talk of comparing paths to restaurant styles has me convinced the NTR path probably is hibachi-style - you know, for the shared, watching experience.

 

[Princess Groundhog]

I know there is the plan for a Paris trip, but I was just thinking I would love to see another trip happen, maybe as an epilogue or DLC or something, where it’s a tropical vacation. Something like The White Lotus (without all the murder). Could be Hawaii, for example. Obviously it would be a great way to see Mila in lots of cute beachwear and skimpy bikinis, plus whatever kinky things she could get up to there, especially if it can happen on all three main routes. I can see on the Loyal route the happy throuple spending some quality wholesome time together, while on the Bob route he could enjoy her company while also sharing her with other resort guests (and sending pics and vids back to Paul), while on the NTR route maybe Liz takes Mila under her wing and treats her to a nice getaway after a stressful time, or it could be part of the sugar daddy route as well. Just an idea!

 

[aDDont]

I know there is the plan for a Paris trip, but I was just thinking I would love to see another trip happen, maybe as an epilogue or DLC or something, where it’s a tropical vacation. Something like The White Lotus (without all the murder). Could be Hawaii, for example. Obviously it would be a great way to see Mila in lots of cute beachwear and skimpy bikinis, plus whatever kinky things she could get up to there, especially if it can happen on all three main routes. I can see on the Loyal route the happy throuple spending some quality wholesome time together, while on the Bob route he could enjoy her company while also sharing her with other resort guests (and sending pics and vids back to Paul), while on the NTR route maybe Liz takes Mila under her wing and treats her to a nice getaway after a stressful time, or it could be part of the sugar daddy route as well. Just an idea!

I actually have a couple dozen beach drafts lying around, but I’m still not sure if I want to weave them into the story — and if I do, which routes they’d fit into.
Not gonna lie — you can come up with tons of beach events, and all of them sound super fun to me. Plus, consistency is way less of a headache there — you just need to keep roughly the same color palette and you’re good.

So yeah, those scenes are definitely on my “radar,” but they’re not in the immediate plans just yet.

 

[Princess Groundhog]

I actually have a couple dozen beach drafts lying around, but I’m still not sure if I want to weave them into the story — and if I do, which routes they’d fit into.
Not gonna lie — you can come up with tons of beach events, and all of them sound super fun to me. Plus, consistency is way less of a headache there — you just need to keep roughly the same color palette and you’re good.

So yeah, those scenes are definitely on my “radar,” but they’re not in the immediate plans just yet.

Yay that makes me very hopeful and excited! I would definitely love for it to not just be a couple of scenes but a proper vacation, say a week or so. I realize that’s probably a lot, so maybe something for Mila AI 2

 

[Aspili]

I actually have a couple dozen beach drafts lying around, but I’m still not sure if I want to weave them into the story — and if I do, which routes they’d fit into.
Not gonna lie — you can come up with tons of beach events, and all of them sound super fun to me. Plus, consistency is way less of a headache there — you just need to keep roughly the same color palette and you’re good.

So yeah, those scenes are definitely on my “radar,” but they’re not in the immediate plans just yet.

While I really like the idea, I implore you to set focus.
At the moment it seems like you are jumping between routes and especially the BBC route feels rushed at the end. I know you are aware and you yourself said it's inconsistent or incomplete.

But please, before adding yet another scenario please focus on the existing routes and give them some polishing. Especially Paul's character feels increasingly flat and unneccessary for the plot. And honestly, the connection between Mila and the fat dude feels like a cheap porn scene.

Like the meme:

Entering a random utility room...

She: Yeah, well, this is the electric box we have problems with.
He: ok
She: but why is there a stack of hay here?
He: Well, give me a BJ now.
She: ok

drops to her knees....

completely nonsensical story to preamble a random fucking scene.

The whole Mila/fat dude storyline feels like the same randomness. Why is Mila attracted to a fat loser? If she pities him, why fuck him? She can literally bang any other dude as she does in the BBC route.

I really enjoyed the game so far, with the exception of the BBC route and parts of the fat dude route. But recently I get the feeling that aDDont loses focus and jumps randomly between routes which in turn leads to inconsistencies that disturb the sotrytelling.

Please focus on one route. Bring it to a chapter ending before jumping to the next. The loyal route feels like it ends midsentence for now.

 

[Saerwen]

While I really like the idea, I implore you to set focus.
At the moment it seems like you are jumping between routes and especially the BBC route feels rushed at the end. I know you are aware and you yourself said it's inconsistent or incomplete.

But please, before adding yet another scenario please focus on the existing routes and give them some polishing. Especially Paul's character feels increasingly flat and unneccessary for the plot. And honestly, the connection between Mila and the fat dude feels like a cheap porn scene.

Like the meme:

Entering a random utility room...

She: Yeah, well, this is the electric box we have problems with.
He: ok
She: but why is there a stack of hay here?
He: Well, give me a BJ now.
She: ok

drops to her knees....

completely nonsensical story to preamble a random fucking scene.

The whole Mila/fat dude storyline feels like the same randomness. Why is Mila attracted to a fat loser? If she pities him, why fuck him? She can literally bang any other dude as she does in the BBC route.

I really enjoyed the game so far, with the exception of the BBC route and parts of the fat dude route. But recently I get the feeling that aDDont loses focus and jumps randomly between routes which in turn leads to inconsistencies that disturb the sotrytelling.

Please focus on one route. Bring it to a chapter ending before jumping to the next. The loyal route feels like it ends midsentence for now.

Yes, but as much as I would like that one route at a time it's better when the Dev is the mood to work on one route then the other and the next. He started makeover of CGs so I'm sure the Dev will after finishing the game, focus on adding/fixing writing.

 

[DSXF953Z]

Why is Mila attracted to a fat loser? If she pities him, why fuck him?

Well, why not? Pity fucks exist.
I don't think it's pity though - more like he seems a safe choice to both Paul & Mila.