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Saerwen

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I use a bunch of different tools to create images and videos.

For image generation, I start by making a base image/draft. I either draw it in Photoshop, do a photobash from several images from the internet, or use LLM image generators like ChatGPT or Qwen. If the image is complex and I expect to animate it or make variations, I generate the background separately first and only then add the characters.

After I have the initial draft, I run it through img2img locally (Stable Diffusion — I use A1111). I use several models, mostly from the Ilustrious family and the Pony family. Most of the time I only use LoRAs for the characters. Occasionally I add LoRAs for concepts the model doesn’t understand or keeps mixing up and needs a bit of fine-tuning. You have to be careful with that though, because LoRAs often shift the style — and that hurts consistency.

Then I take the result into Photoshop, fix what I don’t like, and send it back into Stable Diffusion for inpainting. I repeat that loop until I’ve fixed everything that bothers me.

Once I have a finished image, I can move on to video generation. I use WAN 2.2 models — there’s a pretty good variant by dasiwa. The “clean” model keeps consistency better, but then you end up stacking at least 5–6 LoRAs, and that affects face consistency.

I generate videos at 480p, tweaking the prompt until I get a version I like in terms of motion and/or it contains the frames I need. Then I generate a couple of variations with the prompt/seed I liked at 864p. After that, I pull out a frame I like, upscale it to 1080p, run it through img2img, and fix everything I don’t like. Color needs special attention — WAN “flattens” and desaturates colors.

Then I run the video in start-to-end frames mode once I have both frames ready.

Finally, I assemble the finished videos in DaVinci Resolve and convert them to WebM using Shutter Encoder.

That’s the rough flow — but there are nuances at every step :)


The 2-3 frames animation are the "old" ones I made by hand. The "new" AI animations look like this

It's a 16 fps base video that enhanced to 48/60 fps. Most of them 12 sec long. Some more then 30 sec.

Also, it's a bit of surprise for me, but looks like I will be switching to the loyal route after the NY holidays. Though it's not set in stone, people are still voting:D
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You are switching to loyal route? Mila's news of pregnancy is coming! Paul have a reason to celebrate, happy New Year! :giggle:
 

88stanford88

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I don't know why these arguments keep happening.

The game is tagged as cheating
Yes, the game has been labeled as “cheating,” but this is inaccurate because there is an NTR path in the plot--as you should know.
Plus there is the fact that cheating means “rigged” ‘cheating’ ‘manipulation’ and “ trickery” so it's not specific to describe a genre where there is betrayal between husband and wife.

And since this is a recurring topic it means it's something many users are interested in
(there are almost no other topic to discuss about this game)


The game is tagged as netorare (From reading the guide, Mila encourages a relationship between Paul and another woman, so semi-accurate).
So this is accurate too because---

Mila has a husband with whom she has or had a romantic relationship, and this causes jealousy in her husband.
in fact Paul is jealous in both the NTS and NTR paths...
in any case in F95zone the netorare tag includes all types of NTRs that exist, and this is also common in Japanese erotic filmography

I haven't played the game but the only issue I can see here (and the reason I don't like the current netorare tag definition) is that possibly there's no jealousy on Mila's part.
But there is jealoisy in her LI partner that is her husband...
so again netorare is an accurate definition in this plot... indeed the author is writting an NTR path.

The only problem in this game is that the MC has no personality :

Mila is just a puppet in the hands of the author, who decides for her to change her personality throughout the various paths...

This way of writing makes the protagonist's character weak and implausible.
In my opinion, a story with a female protagonist should be about a heroine who changes the course of the story in her favor, even accepting incredible and degrading humiliations, even submitting for many weeks to POWERFUL men who believe they dominate her, but who in the end realize that she will be the one to defeat them by stealing what they possess: their male chauvinist pride! These women with strong personalities, capable of suffering in silence, do all this to save their honor and the person they love.
In fact, the best games with female MCs with strong personalities that have been capturing the public's approval for years are
Lida (game Liida's Adventure)
Anna (Anna Exciting Affections=
Stacy (The Office Wife)
Vivian (The Husband Boss)
If that's the case, then the netorare tag is inaccurate and the way to solve that if you care is to report the OP and explain why you think so, not to get into an argument about external tags that don't matter to this site's tagging.
Wrong
Netorare tag description is perfectly accurate in this site
i really suggest to search for the JAV code BLK-356 by Mio Kimishima you can find the picture in my previous post
https://f95zone.to/threads/mila-ai-v1-5-4public-addont.188775/post-19047506
This Japanese film has a plot that encapsulates the perfect meaning of the NTR tag in a story starring a wife as the MC of the new millennial generation.

Cheers
 
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88stanford88

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The current discussion shows me once again how much I dislike the Japanese terms NTR, NTS, etc. in this genre. They are far too ambiguous and leave room for confusion and misinterpretation
Cheating meaning is much more ambiguous bc cheating can be also translate as
FRAUD ... SCAM ... HOAX... BOGUS.. TRICK ... LYING .. DECEIT... game cheat/mod and more!

NTR only concerns the romantic relationship between a couple in love and the natural jealousy that love entails.
(it also includes jealousy of a son towards his mother or a brother towards his sister, etc. etc.!!!) :cool:

Without love, there is no jealousy, and unfortunately, the character Mila is devoid of love for others. She only loves herself, is interested in herself because of her selfishness, and doesn't care about anything else. She is a character lacking in personality and empathy.
 
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mrmarioman

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I use a bunch of different tools to create images and videos.

For image generation, I start by making a base image/draft. I either draw it in Photoshop, do a photobash from several images from the internet, or use LLM image generators like ChatGPT or Qwen. If the image is complex and I expect to animate it or make variations, I generate the background separately first and only then add the characters.

After I have the initial draft, I run it through img2img locally (Stable Diffusion — I use A1111). I use several models, mostly from the Ilustrious family and the Pony family. Most of the time I only use LoRAs for the characters. Occasionally I add LoRAs for concepts the model doesn’t understand or keeps mixing up and needs a bit of fine-tuning. You have to be careful with that though, because LoRAs often shift the style — and that hurts consistency.

Then I take the result into Photoshop, fix what I don’t like, and send it back into Stable Diffusion for inpainting. I repeat that loop until I’ve fixed everything that bothers me.

Once I have a finished image, I can move on to video generation. I use WAN 2.2 models — there’s a pretty good variant by dasiwa. The “clean” model keeps consistency better, but then you end up stacking at least 5–6 LoRAs, and that affects face consistency.

I generate videos at 480p, tweaking the prompt until I get a version I like in terms of motion and/or it contains the frames I need. Then I generate a couple of variations with the prompt/seed I liked at 864p. After that, I pull out a frame I like, upscale it to 1080p, run it through img2img, and fix everything I don’t like. Color needs special attention — WAN “flattens” and desaturates colors.

Then I run the video in start-to-end frames mode once I have both frames ready.

Finally, I assemble the finished videos in DaVinci Resolve and convert them to WebM using Shutter Encoder.

That’s the rough flow — but there are nuances at every step :)


The 2-3 frames animation are the "old" ones I made by hand. The "new" AI animations look like this

It's a 16 fps base video that enhanced to 48/60 fps. Most of them 12 sec long. Some more then 30 sec.

Also, it's a bit of surprise for me, but looks like I will be switching to the loyal route after the NY holidays. Though it's not set in stone, people are still voting:D
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That's quite a bit of work still. And I guess inconsistencies is still the worst part about using AI. But the results you have a achieved are simply stunning. If the tech keeps improving I think it's inevitable that it will change the VNs space forever, and for the better. It's crazy the amount of time takes for some Devs to animate a scene. If you don't mind me asking, how long do you take to animate a scene (one of the new realistic ones)?
 

88stanford88

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It's like you didn't read my post at all.
I answered to specific parts of your post, and you say I didn't read it? LOL

If you agree with me, just say so... if you don't...
HAPPY NEW YEAR anyway
This game has a female MC that has no personality
I gave you some concrete examples and I could add other wonderful success stories...
tags don't matter... a story needs a strong character and here Mila has too many different personalities to be a strong one!

Thanks
 

Lupiscanis

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I answered to specific parts of your post, and you say I didn't read it? LOL

If you agree with me, just say so... if you don't...
HAPPY NEW YEAR anyway

Thanks
Let me try again with fewer words.

Yes, the game has been labeled as “cheating,” but this is inaccurate because there is an NTR path in the plot--as you should know.
Whether there's an NTR plot also is irrelevant to whether there is cheating. If a game has urination and scat, it doesn't just get labelled as one and not the other.

But there is jealoisy in her LI partner that is her husband...
so again netorare is an accurate definition in this plot... indeed the author is writting an NTR path.
Once again, you're using a definition of NTR that is not the same as the site's (to clarify, as far as I understood what you said anyway - you seem to be implying that the husband is jealous - that doesn't matter for netorare on this site).

Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
If there is no jealousy from having the romantic interest (in this case, her husband) involved with someone else, there can be no netorare, on this site. I've already explained that I haven't played the game and it's not clear from the guide whether this is the case which is why I put it in as a caveat earlier.
 
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88stanford88

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If there is no jealousy from having the romantic interest (in this case, her husband) involved with someone else, there can be no netorare, on this site. I've already explained that I haven't played the game and it's not clear from the guide whether this is the case which is why I put it in as a caveat earlier.
There must be jealousy if there is love.
The husband is jealous, and if THE WIFE isn't, she becomes a selfish and useless person who doesn't deserve to be married... Mila is a character that comes without any personality

You're obsessed with tags
I'm interested in stories with compelling plots and strong characters who become heroes, like Anne in Exciting Affection.
Mila could never be like that because she has no personality and is just a soulless puppet.
 
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88stanford88

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You keep saying that I'm interested in an NTR story... But it's the author who wants to write a NTR storyline... not me.
I don't care abut NTR
the NTR definition in this site is perfext as is

MILA GAME INCLUDES A NTR PATH!!! :cool:

I'm not downloading this game. I already understand that there's nothing in this game that interests me.

Happy New Eve-:illuminati::illuminati::illuminati:
 
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