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Should I remove the RNG system tied to player stats for menu choice validation in the game?


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Rosen King

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May 29, 2019
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The main issue I have with this update is that you don't really use your mind control in it. Like, there are one or two points where you can use it to bypass a stat check, and one or two points where the protagonist automatically uses it to clear up an awkward situation, but nothing that really makes a difference or changes the dynamics between the characters. The one time he considers doing that, his powers are already on cooldown from an unavoidable usage earlier on. I know expecting a longer update from a longer wait is a logical fallacy, but I was hoping after a year's wait we'd at least get some more of the game's namesake.

If nothing else, I wish we had an option for how to handle Elise's suspicions instead of just erasing them. I would've loved to be able to make her excited at the thought of the protagonist having the power to control people, and wanting him to use it on her.
 

molerat21

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You can't really fail with Rosie. I let Elsie tell her about the BJ and took all the literal worst choices towards Rosie and she still wants to bang MC.
I tried this too when Elise was saying she couldn't betray Rosie by sleeping with me. I was thinking that maybe if I tank the relationship early enough, I could hook up with Elise sooner. Alas, not only could I not tank the relationship, Elise doesn't have any scenes this patch.
 

Grimmzzz1

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Wait what? Thought everyone likes lesbian porns. You can do everything to Emily, her watching definitely spices things up, and also if you really don't like her you can make her leave.
Not true, I sort of hate lesbian porn. But you can actually get Emily to not have sex with Mia and just turn her into brain dead slave. So this game is actually versatile enough to not let you see lesbian scenes too much, in case you are not into it.
 
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Cutestarr65

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Dec 31, 2024
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I've had a few playthroughs where the MC came inside Rosie without telling her. Any chance a future patch can have her be angry or upset about it?
Ditto some of the other ladies, if the option ever becomes available?
 
Apr 27, 2023
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So this is just another game falsely labeled as NTR and I should just move on.
It has been discussed numerous times, but there is no "netori" or "netorase" tags, neither is there "cuckold" or more specific, so it is simply not possible for dev to nuance it like that via tags and he, just like others, have to go via "netorare" as supposedly closest generic term.

There was an idea for updates on tags (and possibly search system itself), there's some threads that are years old about that.

I, for example, would be glad if there were distinction between when mc dominates someone and other way round, but there isn't, so yeah, have to sort through the potential candidates. :oops: It is what it is, but hardly the fault of dev.
 
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Other games I can recommend for this genre are Power of Will and Friends in Need (minus mind control), would be great to know if there are similar games.
The Regional Manager*

Personal Assistant: Blackheart edition. Anything by Blackheart basically, when you can get it -- but all the games can be very dark(!), be warned. Personal Assistant itself is an abandoned game, which also included some corruption and trainning, but was cut pretty short afai remember.

The Assistant -- completely different game from PA:BHE, much milder, different dev and stories, pretty good on training/corruption/maledom

Enslaver* 3 parts by Milohaze -- gets rather dark too, be warned.

Basically check my ratings of games, anything with 4/5 total rating will probably score reasonably high on this. I also include a specific maledom rating in my reviews. Note that I don't look at realporn, textual and 2d games tho.

* - some form of mind control
 
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Raziel_8

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Dec 4, 2017
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Maybe they like lesbians who actually look female.
Hm, not really for lesbians at all.
But if she would look better you could at least have fun with her, when you make her your slave...as is, i don't even want to see her, not too mention use her :sick:
Her personality is even worse.
Yes, and that is before you find out she was taking advantage of your sis, leaked the sex tape and tries to bring her and Rosie in a sex cult as the latest victims...

If it was up to me, i'd get everything she knows about that cult from her, make her tell the truth to the sister and Rosie and set her out exploring siberia, with no return date.
Or if you are more business oriented, make her your whore, some nice income for the MC...i mean, at that school are surely some desperate enough guys to pay for her...maybe.
 

romo-ice

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Sep 11, 2019
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mindcontroldev, some hopefully constructive criticism/feedback:

1. The dom stat should be used to prevent sub options from showing up. E.g, in the scene with the teacher, you get the option to say "I obey no one" if dom is high enough, but if the dom stat is high like 100%, should the player even get an option to choose the sub route? Same for the Emilie dom/sub choice.. The dom stat could be split into 3, something like <= 30% sub-only, between 31-69, switch, >=70 dom-only.

2. The dice mechanic doesn't make a whole lot of sense. RNG in a VN's choices usually just means the player can roll back and then 'reroll'. It's better to just base the outcome on concrete stat comparison. E.g., if Perversion >= 50% success, else fail.
 

PerverTeacher

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Jun 5, 2017
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The premise is very good, of course, there's the cliché of mental power and everything. Great, count on me.

As pointed out by Rosen King, there's some freedom in when to use the power and then suddenly the game takes this freedom away from you due to a problem that the MC decided to solve on his own, without our interference. Okay, it wasn't that great but there wasn't much to do.

I liked that you end up... "leveling up" and earning a point that you can end up spending however you want and influencing the MC in some way (?).

My suggestions:
- if the probability of an action is non-existent, leave it opaque or grayed out. Indicating that that option, for "x" reason, is not possible. (if he chose to be submissive, options that require domination are "dimmed")
- If the MC is a pathological debaucher (or as his debauchery increases) there should be more depraved scenarios than if he were vanilla. For example: forcing the suggestion on the mother to be more open about having a lover or escalating this scenario until she rubs it in her husband's face and, in return, being able to choose whether her father tries to win her back (and succeeds), gives up on the marriage or becomes a cuckold (resigned or by suggestion).
Following this reasoning, the characters could resist the suggestions more, the more depraved the suggested actions are. As we embed corrupt thoughts, the less averse to the suggestions they (obviously) will be.
- The idea of the character suspecting the MC's actions is good. But it seemed too quick and... well... loose. MC acted quickly with Rosie's stepfather but not with the girl Ellie?
- If we keep the idea of even with low chances, choosing an action and failing, the character's level of suspicion could skyrocket. Forcing the player/MC to consider their choices more carefully or making the next ones more difficult. Limiting the use of power but leaving it 100% in the player's hands, I believe it would be interesting narratively speaking. Leading to the discovery of the MC's manipulation and a "bad ending".

Overall, I hope this game has a future, with scenarios or possibilities expanding. The possibility of creating a harem or turning a character into a complete slut with fetishes such as cuckolding/cheating (whether netori, netorare or netorase since it wasn't clear to me in the game); golden shower; exhibitionism are all there.
 

Trasher2018

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Aug 21, 2018
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This is a solid game. But I have some issues with it.

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Then there are some common issues with personal pronouns (mix up of him/her he/she) that are really annoying in these kind of games and I think there were some cases when the name plates were wrong.

Overall its a fun project with very natural looking girls (i prefer dolled up women, so I hope that might be an option in the future to get some bimbo action going ^^) and an entertaining premise.

I wont complain to much about the realism and structure of the story because with mind control and stuff we have to run with it i guess... but there is room for improvement.
 
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Cutestarr65

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Aw yeah, managed to fuck Mia with the MC. Wish could've came inside her, but future patch option (and breeding options)?
Also, looking forward to the future chapters and Rosie's aftermath.
Will the MC be able to offer Rosie to others as well? Be great if the option opened to have her get tattoos or piercings based on your command.
 
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