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xxxDreamZzz

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There's several of Miro's pre-patreon content missing from this collection so I've gathered as much as I could find so far in a torrent:

Torrent file:

Magenent link (just in case):
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thedayafter

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The new intro for some reason screams "Distract them with pretty". Because the castle looks cool and has an impressive scale, but I wonder what the point of it is outside of "it looks cool". Are we going to be exploring it? Are we getting multiple scenes on multiple levels? Is there going to be a daring escape from the castle by the Duchess and Cerene?

Or does that only exist to make a 'cool looking' establishing shot and bring us into the same room we were in 2 years ago when they were previewing it which is where 95% of the animation takes place? The previous establishing shot that he showed off the castle with before felt more in tune with things and seemed to setup where the scene was taking place well enough. But when I see this gigantic castle with what looks like 5000+ rooms. It feels like they made it to make us go "Wow look how epically big that castle is." but it does really nothing to serve a story we know will likely take place primarily in one room. So it ultimately feels like a distraction, like "Here's the last 2 years of hard work!!" but it doesn't seem like anyone bought into it. The bells and whistles don't seem to work anymore as people are asking more than that. Especially because they already have been getting more than that from other creators across those past few years he's been working on this.

Back when people still had faith in Miro if he'd have released that establishing shot 2-4 years ago it would have made everyone happy with anticipation of how he was going to raise the bar, the fact it now gives off the effect of "That's it?" shows how far he's fallen as well as how much time has gone by where other content makers have far surpassed him.
 

Maxtor

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Jul 20, 2017
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The new intro for some reason screams "Distract them with pretty". Because the castle looks cool and has an impressive scale, but I wonder what the point of it is outside of "it looks cool". Are we going to be exploring it? Are we getting multiple scenes on multiple levels? Is there going to be a daring escape from the castle by the Duchess and Cerene?

Or does that only exist to make a 'cool looking' establishing shot and bring us into the same room we were in 2 years ago when they were previewing it which is where 95% of the animation takes place? The previous establishing shot that he showed off the castle with before felt more in tune with things and seemed to setup where the scene was taking place well enough. But when I see this gigantic castle with what looks like 5000+ rooms. It feels like they made it to make us go "Wow look how epically big that castle is." but it does really nothing to serve a story we know will likely take place primarily in one room. So it ultimately feels like a distraction, like "Here's the last 2 years of hard work!!" but it doesn't seem like anyone bought into it. The bells and whistles don't seem to work anymore as people are asking more than that. Especially because they already have been getting more than that from other creators across those past few years he's been working on this.

Back when people still had faith in Miro if he'd have released that establishing shot 2-4 years ago it would have made everyone happy with anticipation of how he was going to raise the bar, the fact it now gives off the effect of "That's it?" shows how far he's fallen as well as how much time has gone by where other content makers have far surpassed him.
I've never in my years alive on this earth have I seen a patreon or any artist in fact, take that much money? in that many years, to deliver a unnecessary CGI rendered castle no one asked for lol. What the hell was wrong with the original castle everyone was content with lol. * Un-subscribed immediately *
 
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I've never in my years alive on this earth have I seen a patreon or any artist in fact, take that much money? in that many years, to deliver a unnecessary CGI rendered castle no one asked for lol. What the hell was wrong with the original castle everyone was content with lol. * Un-subscribed immediately *
OMG Maxtor, I remember you all the way back from the forums. I was Kattnbleu before I got banned lmao. Good to see other folks not paying for this trash anymore.
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xxxDreamZzz

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I've never in my years alive on this earth have I seen a patreon or any artist in fact, take that much money? in that many years, to deliver a unnecessary CGI rendered castle no one asked for lol. What the hell was wrong with the original castle everyone was content with lol. * Un-subscribed immediately *
I was active in the forums when G4E 1 was released and up until DLC2. Also went with the Patreon account for about 6 months before I realised Miro was finished as a creator and cancelled, deciding to wait on the sideline and see what he came up with.

IMO, the feedback, fame and fortune went to his head, and his deep-diving into fan suggestions, polls, the technical side of websites, shops, rendering, etc. became an excuse early on, because he couldn't decide what to do next to top G4E. Too much FFF can do that to an artist and I've seen it before, and I think we're witnessing it with some other mega-popular artists in this forum.

One extremely interesting fact: I was going through my Miro collection the other day and remembered... he created almost everything (GFE at least) in POSER! That's mind-blowing tbh. Considering the tools and computing power available today. I can only think that it was also very painful in a masochistic way.

Just a last note and opinion, I also think he became impotent in real life, and hated working with his dream lovers, because he couldn't enjoy sex with or without them in real life. Basically developed a psychosis, which to be fair, was (is?) something I don't wish upon anyone. Regardless of their mistakes around production and money.

Edited to add: the impotence theory is the reason behind him designing stupendously ornate castles, rather than animating his dream lovers.
 
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xdleer

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Jan 26, 2023
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The new intro for some reason screams "Distract them with pretty". Because the castle looks cool and has an impressive scale, but I wonder what the point of it is outside of "it looks cool". Are we going to be exploring it? Are we getting multiple scenes on multiple levels? Is there going to be a daring escape from the castle by the Duchess and Cerene?

Or does that only exist to make a 'cool looking' establishing shot and bring us into the same room we were in 2 years ago when they were previewing it which is where 95% of the animation takes place? The previous establishing shot that he showed off the castle with before felt more in tune with things and seemed to setup where the scene was taking place well enough. But when I see this gigantic castle with what looks like 5000+ rooms. It feels like they made it to make us go "Wow look how epically big that castle is." but it does really nothing to serve a story we know will likely take place primarily in one room. So it ultimately feels like a distraction, like "Here's the last 2 years of hard work!!" but it doesn't seem like anyone bought into it. The bells and whistles don't seem to work anymore as people are asking more than that. Especially because they already have been getting more than that from other creators across those past few years he's been working on this.

Back when people still had faith in Miro if he'd have released that establishing shot 2-4 years ago it would have made everyone happy with anticipation of how he was going to raise the bar, the fact it now gives off the effect of "That's it?" shows how far he's fallen as well as how much time has gone by where other content makers have far surpassed him.
will we ever get a follow up of the main plot?
 

Areview

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Just a last note and opinion, I also think he became impotent in real life, and hated working with his dream lovers, because he couldn't enjoy sex with or without them in real life. Basically developed a psychosis, which to be fair, was (is?) something I don't wish upon anyone. Regardless of their mistakes around production and money.

Edited to add: the impotence theory is the reason behind him designing stupendously ornate castles, rather than animating his dream lovers.

I like where you are going with that theory. If nothing else its cathartic and creative.
 

xxxDreamZzz

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Oct 29, 2022
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I like where you are going with that theory. If nothing else its cathartic and creative.
To be honest, it happened to me years ago.

When you spend so much time creating these characters, making them as realistic as possible, enhancing them to fit your fetish(s), and the results become the idealistic "person you'd love to meet and hook up with in real life".... well it's almost a forgone conclusion that "normal" everyday people will not satisfy you. You become a slave of your talent and desire to "make it better".

So you go back into the studio, play Gawd, and become more and more isolated from human touch other than your own.

Stepping away from that is a hell of a lot more difficult than most people can imagine. Quite painful, a total head trip, but necessary if you want to function in the real world.

At least until full immersive VR and adult pleasure suits are a thing. Then I fully expect a lot of people (artists especially) won't ever want to come out of their bubble and smell/taste/experience a real person. Too much work and often times heartache. Why would you?
 

Maxtor

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Jul 20, 2017
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OMG Maxtor, I remember you all the way back from the forums. I was Kattnbleu before I got banned lmao. Good to see other folks not paying for this trash anymore.
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Omg! Kattnbleu! I absolutely remember you! See you know whats up! Glad to see you on here too! <3 We've been on that pilgramage far too long. I want IBT to come here and turn this thread into 1000 pages!
 
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JAV4Life

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To be honest, it happened to me years ago.

When you spend so much time creating these characters, making them as realistic as possible, enhancing them to fit your fetish(s), and the results become the idealistic "person you'd love to meet and hook up with in real life".... well it's almost a forgone conclusion that "normal" everyday people will not satisfy you. You become a slave of your talent and desire to "make it better".

So you go back into the studio, play Gawd, and become more and more isolated from human touch other than your own.

Stepping away from that is a hell of a lot more difficult than most people can imagine. Quite painful, a total head trip, but necessary if you want to function in the real world.

At least until full immersive VR and adult pleasure suits are a thing. Then I fully expect a lot of people (artists especially) won't ever want to come out of their bubble and smell/taste/experience a real person. Too much work and often times heartache. Why would you?
always thought miro was a gay dude and his creations were a compromise between making normie porn and gay stuff (which is pretty niche imo) otherwise he wouldn't have gained the following he has today. also what if tristran? forgot his name exactly was his ideal person and the huge slump in work has always been because the original bloodlust didnt do well and he had to go back to futa stuff only :unsure:
 

Maxtor

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Jul 20, 2017
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always thought miro was a gay dude and his creations were a compromise between making normie porn and gay stuff (which is pretty niche imo) otherwise he wouldn't have gained the following he has today. also what if tristran? forgot his name exactly was his ideal person and the huge slump in work has always been because the original bloodlust didnt do well and he had to go back to futa stuff only :unsure:
I almost forgot Tristan got backhanded into the multiverse never to be seen again. Maybe he'll come back as high poly furniture in Miro's next trailer.
 
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