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We will never see Sayako and Tara again, and Miro decided to let BC die in favor of AI. Nothing I've seen compares to G4E and BC in terms of quality to tell you the truth. Those videos were ahead of their time and videos still look better than anything else till this day. It is sad since he has moved on from actually putting effort in his job and now became a lazy mf.

like what’s his issue, I don’t understand? He’s got a lot of supporters ever since he opened his patreon page, and still disappointed every one with delays and cancellations. He can literally pay people to do his job but won’t do it. Every time someone makes a valid point criticizing him, he literally responds like if he’s stupid, avoiding the actual issue.

Like someone else once said, Miro is the typical guy with ADHD who does well in class but stops attending school
I think we will see both G4E and Bloodlust again as AI slop. He did admit the faults of AI stuff and perhaps he's waiting for those issues to disappear before he goes back to his brands with more recognition. But I'm 100% that down the line both G4E and Bloodlust will get AIfied.

And yes he's immune to arguments. It all boils down to "it will be perfect in the future" for him.
 
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At this point, fans of 3d porn dont have much choice. All of the best animators have disappeared, turned into lazy exploitative hacks, or can barely churn out content.

With Miro, assuming he actually releases the rest of Aveline by Dec which is my prediction given the way he constantly lies about delays, that means his fans will have had 30 minutes of AI porn and a dozen shorts in 3 months.

Compare that with what Jackerman fans have had to deal with, Wildeer, perfectdeadbeat, etc etc. Even the more reliable ones can only churn out 2-3 minutes of content every 2-3 months due to technology constraints.

So either we have to accept semi regular AI slop or wait 5 years for a Jackerman level long form movie.
That's not really true tbh.

He announced Aveline's quest back in July and already had a teaser trailer for it with actual scenes which means he had been working on it for some time. It released 3 months later so the first episode was probably a 6 months or so effort since half the scenes we saw in the episode showed up in the trailer.
Trailer also had some scenes that will probably be in episode 2 so if we're optimistic about a Dec 2025 release for ep 2 he will have maybe 25 minutes for about 9 months of work. Not bad at all, but definitely not just a quick 3 months work, and also not 3d animated quality level since it's full of hallucinations and broken down in small segments that seem to repeat.

While the big 3d animators are definitely slower, it's not always true.
When Jackerman was doing shorts he was putting out 4-5 minutes of animation (with story, dialogue, intro and sex scenes) about every 4-6 weeks. Mother's Warmth is indeed a trainwreck of delays, and the project has too much effort in imo useless stuff (like a score done by a composer and other bullshit). but work on it was alternated with those 4-5 minutes shorts and it had to do a lot of re-work since the project was in production for so long.

Radeong3d will probably release a 50 minutes or so Lara movie at the end of the year that was in the works for about one year.

Not trying to defend these guys, their work is indeed slow (except Jackerman imo), but holy shit you can't compare hand made animation to the hallucinatory tiktok clip infused AI slop that is currently out there. Like I have yet to see a blowjob scene where the girl is not looking into the camera like it's a crap gonzo porn movie. I have yet to see a sex scene being shown with anything else than a single camera.
I'm not saying I'm not beating my meat to AI stuff if it's hot enough, but the pinnacle of 3d animation was those guys able to make it cinematic, to make it more than just a short porn clip, and AI stuff is miles from it imo.
 

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Compare that with what Jackerman fans have had to deal with, Wildeer, perfectdeadbeat, etc etc. Even the more reliable ones can only churn out 2-3 minutes of content every 2-3 months due to technology constraints.

So either we have to accept semi regular AI slop or wait 5 years for a Jackerman level long form movie.
False dichotomy.

You're conveniently leaving out creators like Nyl, Rikolo, Amazonium, Rigid3D, RadRoach, and any other blender artist that sticks to a good schedule and pumps out shorts in a reasonable amount of time. Heck, even Jackerman can stick to a schedule for all shorts except MW3.

By thinking it has to be one way or the other way, you're falling right into Miro's gaslighting, and excusing his frankly inexcusable behavior to lead us all along while churning out AI slop for minimal effort and raking in the dough.
 

DynamiteJoe

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Personally, I'm not against AI but... but... it's not at a point where I would consider it's worth paying 15$ for a movie like that.
So it seems he's fully into abandoning 3d and there are people wishing he kept working only in 3d, but the funny thing is, I think there is a middle point where I believe is where AI actually can shine right now. You do your own renders and then animate them with AI.
Massively helps keeping control of characters and scenes, it is still your work and get the benefits of speed from the AI.
I'm working as an artist for a game where they do this with some of the still renders while also having blender artists making hand made animations for the "main" sex scenes.
So yeah, I think he could have kept making his own renders with his already established characters and animate them with AI instead of using generic AI hot characters and leaving the whole thing up to the AI. Probably would have required much less editing and million cuts.
 

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I mean, there are people making more money on Patreon by just sharing a ton of AI still images than people actually making their own 3d renders. Which is funny to me, if you prefer to support those people instead of actual artist making their own works because you want more "content" for your money, why not take that money instead and pay for a membership or points on sites like Civitai and generate your own stuff. :HideThePain:
 

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I mean, there are people making more money on Patreon by just sharing a ton of AI still images than people actually making their own 3d renders. Which is funny to me, if you prefer to support those people instead of actual artist making their own works because you want more "content" for your money, why not take that money instead and pay for a membership or points on sites like Civitai and generate your own stuff. :HideThePain:

Can i make Miro quality AI using Civitai? I'm talking a 1 hour movie with multiple sex scenes. Because that would be the dream.
 
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Can i make Miro quality AI using Civitai? I'm talking a 1 hour movie with multiple sex scenes. Because that would be the dream.
Definitely possible but would require a ridiculous amount of trial and error as well as a ton of editing to make the video seem somewhat cohesive.
 
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1 hour?? try making a 5 min scene w/o it looking like its resetting over and over.. that ai blowjob restarted like 6 times. even when shes nutting, the same jizz resets itself and flows down her face over and over.
 
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DynamiteJoe

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Can i make Miro quality AI using Civitai? I'm talking a 1 hour movie with multiple sex scenes. Because that would be the dream.
In that case I was talking specifically about people just sharing AI still images on Patreon and those subscribing to them. Miro's AI stuff is not as simple to make as that, but still I don't think it's at a level it's worth paying for. And it's not related to him specifically, it's just that AI is not at that point. Sure, you can say you are paying for his time editing and putting together the video from a ton of trial and error short clip generations but you can still probably make it or something very close using Civitai too. And it would be something more personalized to what you specifically want. Again, as I said, if at least he was making his own renders and then animating them into a movie with AI, yeah, then it's something more "unique" to him and not as easy to make yourself.

In the end, something being worth your money or not is subjective, so you do you (anyone paying for that stuff), but I just feel "rewarding" this kind of "content" is killing good content. I mean, can you blame other content creators doing it for a living if they stop making their own 3d renders or drawings and jump on to the AI bandwagon when they see people prefer paying for quantity even if it's generic stuff?

Personally, I rather give my money to artists like Rigid3d even though some of them don't even have a paywall for their content. But, again, I'm not against AI. It's just not there right now and probably won't be for a while, at least not as the only tool. Definitely can be used as a "complement" though.
 

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Its the Slopademic with a bunch dumb fucks pushing bad content in mass and calling it art when all they did was type in a prompt and share a shitty image or fucked up video. People are actually paying for this trash? Nah, wont take part and will make fun of anyone that thinks this system is actually good at this point in time when its clearly fucked. Yea maybe you can make a few good images but that's it. Cant make good manga, and cant make good videos. Its just slop trash and it really needs to be blocked by default on every platform.
 

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Its the Slopademic with a bunch dumb fucks pushing bad content in mass and calling it art when all they did was type in a prompt and share a shitty image or fucked up video. People are actually paying for this trash? Nah, wont take part and will make fun of anyone that thinks this system is actually good at this point in time when its clearly fucked. Yea maybe you can make a few good images but that's it. Cant make good manga, and cant make good videos. Its just slop trash and it really needs to be blocked by default on every platform.
Gotta agree but i feel when you have everyone all over the world, and yes i mean all over the world using AI for that purpose and more that bubble is soon going to fill up in which it is already doing and going to burst harder than ever.
 
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