Missing loli/shota games

[Thrownaway13]

The rule says nothing about age, just that the characters aren't prepubescent or look like a real kid. If someone started cumming around 11, myself included, that means they hit puberty by the time they were 10. Though even in those cases of early puberty, you won't see a growth spurt in guys from it for at least a few years in. But being able to produce semen is a clear sign of being well into puberty, regardless of how you may look, this is down to the fact that semen production relies on changes to the testes that require the constant hormone flush that comes with puberty, hence you can't have full semen loads without puberty, period.

So both of the youngest twin characters show clear signs of puberty and with the 2D cartoon style none of them look like real kids, so the game doesn't break rule 7. All I'd like to see if for those who made the decision to admit it was an irrational choice based on personal feelings and not because of a breach of rules, then I wouldn't even care if they stuck to their guns and refused to let the game back. But I know that isn't going to happen, so I'll be leaving this conversation now. Have a nice day everyone.

I posted in a joking manner in this thread before but now I will speak more sternly.

@brynhildr may not have a mod or staff tag but the uploading team works closely with both of those teams. We all work together to ensure the content on this site fits with the direction we want it to go. Behind the scenes games are rejected and approved in a place that all Uploaders, Mods, and Staff can see them. We do this to keep some level on consistency across the site in regards to content. IA went through that same process and it was determined that the content did not fit with the site.

Until further notice IA will not be posted here, you can look elsewhere to find it.

You are totally free to disagree with that. I am not going to stop you. But you aren't arguing anything that ten people haven't argued before.

I am sorry that IA is not posted here, but it doesn't line up with how the site wants to move forward.

 

[Doomskull]

Americans seem to be rather worried about being viewed as a pedophile as it would ruin their lives or something.

Are you genuinely defending paedophilia, or are you actually just mentally incapable of seeing why it's considered a bad thing and why others toe the line regarding it?

 

[Jimmybob]

Because he looks younger. What, instead you would say that that kid is 14 years old? Just because he cums? Are you that blind?

The average age that a kid is able to ejaculate is 14 years old. That puts him right into that age group.

And are you really fucking telling me that the kid in Urban Demons looks like a middle aged man or something? A kid who doesn't know the slightest thing about sex and comes across as a legit toddler on the purity route?

I'll go by reality rather than some arbitrarily defined argument where you just get to pick and choose who looks underage and who doesn't.

I don't even care if Incestral Awakening is allowed, tbh the game is pretty shit now anyway with the focus being on loli's (I don't like lolis). But i'm just saying that there's a clear hypocrisy on this website when it comes to games of that nature.

Like I sad before, UrbanXLife still exists on this website and that game has a literal child molestation scene in it (The scene with the loli in the playground). As long as that game is allowed on this website, then the mods/admins will consistently be hypocrites in my eyes for not allowing other games like Incestral awakening

 

[Thrownaway13]

The average age that a kid is able to ejaculate is 14 years old. That puts him right into that age group.

And are you really fucking telling me that the kid in Urban Demons looks like a middle aged man or something? A kid who doesn't know the slightest thing about sex and comes across as a legit toddler on the purity route?

I'll go by reality rather than some arbitrarily defined argument where you just get to pick and choose who looks underage and who doesn't.

I'll leave this here for you also:

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[Jimmybob]

I'll leave this here for you also:

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And i'll leave this here for you

"I don't even care if Incestral Awakening is allowed, tbh the game is pretty shit now anyway with the focus being on loli's (I don't like lolis). But i'm just saying that there's a clear hypocrisy on this website when it comes to games of that nature.

Like I sad before, UrbanXLife still exists on this website and that game has a literal child molestation scene in it (The scene with the loli in the playground). As long as that game is allowed on this website, then the mods/admins will consistently be hypocrites in my eyes for not allowing other games like Incestral awakening"

 

[xןʞ]

I'm sad now knowing you feel that way!

 

[muttdoggy]

Direct quote of Rule 7:
"If a game contains sexual contact with realistic or semi-realistic character(s) who show no sign of puberty(ie prepubescent) then the game should not be shared. Basically, if it looks like a real kid don't post it. As this involves some discretion, if you are unsure ask a Staff Member."

Regarding "IA"-

Let's break down the first sentence...
Just because someone can ejaculate, it doesn't mean they are going through puberty. They orgasm but have "dry" ejaculations. In the case of IA, you are saying he ejaculates. Yes, ejaculation as a sign, but it is one of many signs.

Now the second sentence...
He does look like a kid, more so than his twin. His only sign of puberty is ejaculation BUT he still looks like a kid.

And the third sentence...
It was a clear decision with the staff that IA isn't to be allowed. The reason for that is the MC really does look like a kid.

With Urban Xlife, the only question is Amandine (The anal scene in the playground). The trouble with Amandine is that it's an anal scene and you don't see enough of Amandine to make that judgement call. One, she wears a billowy red dress IIRC. And Peio's perspective is from behind and slightly below her. I don't recall if you can see if she has breasts or not- it's been years. Now.. if Amandine had to been shown to look like a kid under that dress, then yes.. we would ban it.

 

[muttdoggy]

And here's my question... Why are you pushing so hard for us to host IA when the MC is obviously much younger than Amandine or Peio in Urban Xlife? Peio shows far more signs of puberty than the MC in IA.
I'm wondering why it' soo important to you that we host it. Are you an employee of Sexcurse? A rabid fan of IA?
Honestly, I don't think you can defend yourself even if you state "he ejaculates!" and there's no way to defend the accurate depiction of a child in a porn game.
TBH.. those who defend IA disgust and repulse me.

 

[bas]

This site heavily discriminates against pedophiles for some reason.
Guess its part of the american culture.

Yeah, we're total dicks to most criminals.

 

[baneini]

Are you genuinely defending paedophilia, or are you actually just mentally incapable of seeing why it's considered a bad thing and why others toe the line regarding it?

Yeah, we're total dicks to most criminals.

What in the fuck.
What is there to defend exactly, someones biological state of being that is forever unchanging? Are gay people Bad for the exercise of being gay? Should they choose to stop being gay? Fucking ridiculous.
I don't think I need to comment on how thought crimes are now a thing and the guy not seeing the irony of saying that on a pirate forum where literally everyone is a criminal for their actions.

 

[redknight00]

Ejaculating (as well as informed age) is hardly a parameter for apparent age, one can draw a 5 year old and make him ejaculate and that still doesn't make him any older. In the IA case the kid (and I can't think of any other word to describe it) is either purposefully or by lack of expertise made to look like a child: the very short height compared to adults, round features, big eyes, even the hair is more characteristic of kids.

 

[Space0din]

Well this thread did pretty much nothing for the original question

 

[eosar]

Well this thread did pretty much nothing for the original question

What do you mean? Ignoring the rants above, a mod recommended you go visit the chans. (0chan,2chan,4chan,6chan,8chan,10chan,12chan etc 2 by 2) They're more lax regarding the rules the higher up you go in numbers. Except 0... 0 don't give a fuck.

 

[bas]

What in the fuck.
What is there to defend exactly, someones biological state of being that is forever unchanging? Are gay people Bad for the exercise of being gay? Should they choose to stop being gay? Fucking ridiculous.
I don't think I need to comment on how thought crimes are now a thing and the guy not seeing the irony of saying that on a pirate forum where literally everyone is a criminal for their actions.

Ok, honest answer without snark.

Here's how it's different than being gay or bi or whatever; consent, which one must be an adult to give. If you have that, fuck anyone you want. But by definition, children cannot give consent.

BTW, serial killers have biological elements to their state too, and the reason they're also universally accepted as "bad" is they hurt other people. And I personally don't want to be around them and/or their fantasies - whether they have or will ever realize those fantasies - either.

P.S. Righteous indignation on a porn game forum is silly.

 

[Delmach]

Well since we arrived at real life apparently, maybe I can get an answer about something.

Here's how it's different than being gay or bi or whatever; consent, which one must be an adult to give. If you have that, fuck anyone you want. But by definition, children cannot give consent.

Thats one thing I was wondering about regarding the US, among quite a few other stuff, is whats the actual age range to not be classified as a children? Does it actually go by age of consent? Doesn't that go up to 18 years in some states?

Wikipedia says: The age of consent is the age at which a person is considered to be

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to consent to

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and is thus the minimum age of a person with whom another person is legally permitted to engage in sexual activity.

Im making my confusement even clearer, does that really mean every person under the age of consent set for a state, and living in said state, is not allowed to engage in sexual acts? If so... how? how does that work, if puberty hits and nature calls, and that happens as early as 10-11, how would they actually keep people from trying for up to 6-7 years?

Im honestly baffled there. Playing into the confusion is also the fact that apparently a 16 year old person in a state with the age of consent set at 17 or 18 is the same as a 6 year old then? How can anyone say that makes sense? Up to becoming about 17-18 years there is such a huge growth, in body and mind, that even a 2 year span makes a huge difference.

Why is there even the word teenager, when people dont make a few stepping stones upwards. That also is how education supposedly works best, give people growing up more responsibility, step by step, not all at once in some special cases.

Also read up on those so called Romeo and Julie Laws, because there was a case of a 17 year old female and a 20 year old male (think those were the right ages, maybe off by a year). And the man apparently got onto a sex offender list, cant visit playgrounds anymore, even with the same female and their kids, as he married her later and had children with her. Nearly no one in any country in Europe would, without background information, even think about that being a wrong thing. Not joking.

I guess that shows how different the world infact is or can be, that I even have to ask why. Maybe im also misinformed about some things, thats why I thought its a good time to ask. So please, someone enlighten me if theres something wrong.

 

[DarthSeduction]

What in the fuck.
What is there to defend exactly, someones biological state of being that is forever unchanging? Are gay people Bad for the exercise of being gay? Should they choose to stop being gay? Fucking ridiculous.
I don't think I need to comment on how thought crimes are now a thing and the guy not seeing the irony of saying that on a pirate forum where literally everyone is a criminal for their actions.

Where to begin. I think I'll work backwards, however borrowing context from the arguments. Piracy is a crime in which no one gets hurt. You see, the people that would pay for these games will, the rest don't value them highly enough to pay. By pirating you're not taking something from someone, in fact, the existence of this site makes it possible for our games to get out. Piracy makes me money.

Now we get to where you insultingly compare non-hereto sexuality with pedophilia. Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation. It's not a hormonal or pheromonal response. Pedophilia is an obsession with and sexualisation of children. Pedophiles are sick and need to be treated.

Now, if you want to talk about ways to do that, that's another discussion entirely. However, as the law loves to crack down on even 2 dimensional depictions of child sex, you'll not be able to argue that this forum, which already operates on the fringe of legality, should poke that bear and try to flout the much stricter laws in this case. And that's one of the reasons not to host that content, with those who want to share far more deviant content finding places that are willing to host such content to be great for setting up gateways to their far darker content. And on the other side, hacktivist crusaders who'd gladly attack this site of we were seen to be soft on the issue.

There's no room for it. Do I think that it should be disallowed in a fictional sense? No. But I can't change the fact that in most western countries it's very much illegal.

 

[muttdoggy]

@Delmach - 18 is the legal age of "adulthood" in the USA. When you turn 18, you are legally an Adult. If you are 17 and younger, you are considered a child, juvenile, and underage.
Now, "Age of Consent" varies from state to state and has no bearing on "adulthood". The age of consent is usually no lower than 16 with a partner who has no more than 4-5 years age difference. Now, minors between 13-15 are said to have consented to sex ONLY with those of the same age range. To clarify it, a person who is 13-15 years of age are only allowed to consent to sex with someone who is also in the 13-15 age range.. any higher or lower, that's illegal. The older person in that case will go to prison. For instance, a 16 year old has sex with a 14 year old.. the 16 year old will go to prison. If a 16 year old has sex with a 20 year old, it is legal.
With the Romeo and Juliet case, the 20 year old started the sexual relationship before she turned 16. It doesn't even need to be penetration. All he had to do was touch her breasts or genitals before she turned 16 and he's toast. Even if she touched his genitals, he's busted.
Edited to add...
IIRC, one of the two slipped up and mentioned a "heavy petting session" during a particular event. The parents realized that it happened before she turned 16 and also realized they'd been lied to. So they pressed charges.

 

[baneini]

Now we get to where you insultingly compare non-hereto sexuality with pedophilia. Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation. It's not a hormonal or pheromonal response. Pedophilia is an obsession with and sexualisation of children. Pedophiles are sick and need to be treated.

The comparison is about that both are inherent biological features of an individual and claims of choices or fixing things applies to both. You seem to think it's a magical thing that is somehow separate from ones biology. I don't you can treat them, they'll be attracted to children their entire lives because that's their brain structure. I don't see the point of feeling hate towards something like that, what good does it do.

However, as the law loves to crack down on even 2 dimensional depictions of child sex, you'll not be able to argue that this forum, which already operates on the fringe of legality, should poke that bear and try to flout the much stricter laws in this case. And that's one of the reasons not to host that content, with those who want to share far more deviant content finding places that are willing to host such content to be great for setting up gateways to their far darker content. And on the other side, hacktivist crusaders who'd gladly attack this site of we were seen to be soft on the issue.

There's no room for it. Do I think that it should be disallowed in a fictional sense? No. But I can't change the fact that in most western countries it's very much illegal.

I'd say its only "very much illegal" in only couple places like Canada and a bit gray in rest of the world which is why this site is still operating without "every person is 18+" at the bottom.
Those are reasonable arguments undermined by the way the moderators talk about it. If they hate them you can assume that trumps everything else. You can see how nonsensical the discussion is at the start. Special someone is still talking about consent and cereal killers in the context of cartoon games.

 

[Delmach]

Now, "Age of Consent" varies from state to state and has no bearing on "adulthood". The age of consent is usually no lower than 16 with a partner who has no more than 4-5 years age difference. Now, minors between 13-15 are said to have consented to sex ONLY with those of the same age range. To clarify it, a person who is 13-15 years of age are only allowed to consent to sex with someone who is also in the 13-15 age range.. any higher or lower, that's illegal. The older person in that case will go to prison. For instance, a 16 year old has sex with a 14 year old.. the 16 year old will go to prison. If a 16 year old has sex with a 20 year old, it is legal.

Alright I was really wondering, how would anyone be able to work against a natural sex drive for so long, that part at least makes it a bit less weird. But the definition seen on wikipedia really did not help me there.

Since it says : The age of consent is the age at which a person is considered to be

You must be registered to see the links

to consent to

You must be registered to see the links

and is thus the minimum age of a person with whom another person is legally permitted to engage in sexual activity.

Which to me pretty clearly means nothing before someone reaches that age. Eh so much for clear definitions, not the first time that doesnt work even though it easily should.

For instance, a 16 year old has sex with a 14 year old.. the 16 year old will go to prison.

That stuff still sounds very weird to me, but at least the whole story isnt as bad as I thought.

Edit: One last question if someone is willing to answer, I've read someone mentioning they saw a video of ambigous aged people just walking around naked, and later that person found out they were around 16-17. And they initiated the whole story with "accidently saw real underage pornography".

Now im wondering, would they actually be charged with having that content? Since first, while maybe being underage, they arent in the same class as someone noteable younger. And second, just being naked isnt really defined as pornography, its a natural state.

Which jurisdiction would that fall under, if a person is over the age of consent, but still underage? Since mentioned earlier, everything under 18 makes you a child, juvenile, underage? I think I already answered that for myself, right?

That would be awfully harsh, who would be able to tell the difference between someone being 17 and 18 years. That leads me to my initial concern, that there should be another barrier to not put everyone under 18 in the same spot. With less harsh penalty. An actual differentiation between child and teenager for example.

 

[Delmach]

The comparison is about that both are inherent biological features of an individual and claims of choices or fixing things applies to both. You seem to think it's a magical thing that is somehow separate from ones biology. I don't you can treat them, they'll be attracted to children their entire lives because that's their brain structure. I don't see the point of feeling hate towards something like that, what good does it do.

Now this I would very much agree on, especially since it is seen as a mental, and untreatable thing so far. Thats on par with mental health disorders, and im pretty sure most or all people afflicted with that, if they had a choice, wouldnt want to have any of that. That goes for every kind there is, even more so the ones that are shunned by society.