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AFRICANIZED Vol 5.
BLACK TAKEOVER ( spain ).
CONSEQUENCES ( Vol 3 - spain).
CUCKOLD IN AFRICA (Vol 5 e 6 - spain ).
PAST MISTAKES ( spain).
SLAVERY (spain).
THE CONFESSION ( spain).
THE JANITOR 3(spain).
THE PREACHERS WIFE ( Vol 7 - spain).
THE STEPFATHER ( Vol 3 - spain).
TRUE POWER ( spain).
UNCLE CARLOS ( Vol 2 - spain).
Extra charity 3
 
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so guys the forum and the topic will die? Any old Spanish material? given that a lot of material has already been published in English (eg Uncle Carlos 2, Past Mistakes, Janitor 3) you can supply the old materials in Spanish. As I said I will only finish the former, wife of pastor 7, cuckold in africa 6, and extra charity 3 there I will stop following the work of Moiarte.
 

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well guys I'll post some links of materials in English, and would like to know who has the Spanish version to provide me:







 
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You should learn a thing or two from squarepeg3d. Im very sure that you too have atleast some point in life pirated something or another maybe a movie or a song or something else. But now that its happening to you you're lashing out. Piracy is gonna happen. It not gonna stop. But the way you deal is buy threatning to stop making comics is just gonna piss people off. Here is a good example of how to deal with piracy.
Yeah you right, that day I was upset because I hate hypocritical people (they know who they are)... Piracy will always exist, but as I said in my previous message, the problem is not only that they share the content but what fast that they do, they don't give me time to get earnings from my work... Now in patreon you have 1 comic chapter every 15 days, when I publish the next chapter I realize that the previous chapter is now available for free on another site. Many prefer to wait 15 days for it to be free elsewhere instead of paying. When I tell you that it is preferable to stop doing comics is not a threat. It is a reality if this continues because it makes no sense to work so hard to not get what you really expect from your art.

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And please, don't talk to me about poverty and everything else trying to make me feel sorry for you. I am from "Venezuela" and I also know about the poverty... Anyway, I just ask you not to publish the comics so quickly give some time at least... if you can not to pay, do not do it but give me time to get something from those who do.

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In my opinion, your discussion here is wrong for 2 reasons:
1) as you said, "piracy always will exist", but you mustn't think that if you could stop piracy you could have more members for your website, because fast or not fast piracy post your works, the members will be the same anyway;
2) Just for respect for your members, you needn't speak about closing your site or stopping your works, because of piracy; you need to accept piracy and maybe studying any solution with a compromise (for example: piracy could post your works free only after one month since you published and concerning only works for that month, so that you could continue to publish your new works while piracy could post your old work for the previous month).
 

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In my opinion, your discussion here is wrong for 2 reasons:
1) as you said, "piracy always will exist", but you mustn't think that if you could stop piracy you could have more members for your website, because fast or not fast piracy post your works, the members will be the same anyway;
2) Just for respect for your members, you needn't speak about closing your site or stopping your works, because of piracy; you need to accept piracy and maybe studying any solution with a compromise (for example: piracy could post your works free only after one month since you published and concerning only works for that month, so that you could continue to publish your new works while piracy could post your old work for the previous month).
First I would hope with this statement you are a member or if not a member, then I hope you are not one of the ones who instead of supporting artists that you lurk around waiting to download things for free.

I'm sure the point of people creating work as such is for 1. People to enjoy & 2. If it is something that people will pay for why not make a profit?

The proof is in the thread as the work is already over the internet and people stick around daily in hopes of something new gets posted. So if you love an artist's work that much to go to such lengths to get it... My point would be why not support the work instead of waiting to download it for free (if you can afford it) ? Especially when it is $10.

Some have expressed they cannot afford it but I'm sure 90% of the people who come in here to download the comics for free can afford 10 bucks a month no problem. And that's just one side of the argument as sharing is the ultimate problem. I can't speak for moiarte3d, but if it were my work I would rather people not read it at all than enjoy it for free.

So let me get this correct... We all know pirating exist but that doesn't mean you have to accept it. Please ask yourselves if everyone just sat around and waited for things to get posted for free then what would be the point of an artist creating the work if it doesn't benefit them? Put yourself in some of these artist shoes... You spend hours of your day creating and perfecting your work... Time out of your life only for people think it's fair for you to share the work for free.

Regardless of whether you agree, at the end of the day it is a business, you can't go to a clothing store and say to the owners "stealing is what people do so you have to accept it" you can't go to a restaurant eat and walk out and when they stop you " stealing is what people do so I don't have to pay for the meal"... Or go to watch the new avengers movies and when they ask you to pay to enter "piracy is a thing so you just have to accept it"

That logic is flawed so yes ultimately sharing will happen but you can't tell that man he should just accept it and post the comics for free after a certain amount of time has passed. So you are telling me if it were you who were creating the content and people were sharing your work (sometimes not even a whole day hasn't gone by) and after you spent so many hours working on the work... Only to realize people will download for free no problem but refuse to support the product even though you made it affordable for the majority. I think that says more about the people who just want things for free moreso than the artist. Again some of you guys are delusional.
 
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First I would hope with this statement you are a member or if not a member, then I hope you are not one of the ones who instead of supporting artists that you lurk around waiting to download things for free.

I'm sure the point of people creating work as such is for 1. People to enjoy & 2. If it is something that people will pay for why not make a profit?

The proof is in the thread as the work is already over the internet and people stick around daily in hopes of something new gets posted. So if you love an artist's work that much to go to such lengths to get it... My point would be why not support the work instead of waiting to download it for free (if you can afford it) ? Especially when it is $10.

Some have expressed they cannot afford it but I'm sure 90% of the people who come in here to download the comics for free can afford 10 bucks a month no problem. And that's just one side of the argument as sharing is the ultimate problem. I can't speak for moiarte3d, but if it were my work I would rather people not read it at all than enjoy it for free.

So let me get this correct... We all know pirating exist but that doesn't mean you have to accept it. Please ask yourselves if everyone just sat around and waited for things to get posted for free then what would be the point of an artist creating the work if it doesn't benefit them? Put yourself in some of these artist shoes... You spend hours of your day creating and perfecting your work... Time out of your life only for people think it's fair for you to share the work for free.

Regardless of whether you agree, at the end of the day it is a business, you can't go to a clothing store and say to the owners "stealing is what people do so you have to accept it" you can't go to a restaurant eat and walk out and when they stop you " stealing is what people do so I don't have to pay for the meal"... Or go to watch the new avengers movies and when they ask you to pay to enter "piracy is a thing so you just have to accept it"

That logic is flawed so yes ultimately sharing will happen but you can't tell that man he should just accept it and post the comics for free after a certain amount of time has passed. So you are telling me if it were you who were creating the content and people were sharing your work (sometimes not even a whole day hasn't gone by) and after you spent so many hours working on the work... Only to realize people will download for free no problem but refuse to support the product even though you made it affordable for the majority. I think that says more about the people who just want things for free moreso than the artist. Again some of you guys are delusional.
I have seen that you do not follow the work of Moses. Moiarte3d started with free work, then sold each separate comic after it created the site. Extra Charity vol1 he gave away for free there the people stayed in that. I already said I'll take what I lack in Spanish and complete what is missing from the collections and stop. Moiarte himself could after a while free his old material. sell the history franchise to the porn industry. Make inflatable dolls of your characters.
Note: There is no need for pity, because those who have pity are chicken and die hard.

I don't pay because I can't afford it.
 

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The moderator of the group could remove all the good members that add up to nothing. Here the guys already said they will not share the new works. As we do not share, we will only see the old materials that are incomplete in Spanish. Let's wait 1 month or more to share new releases from him. Let's take a look at the old links in Spanish. Now it's not our fault if shares the materials. Many times out there, then we copy here.

moderator I think this subject has already given, and people who do not collaborate could be blocked from the forum, just as Moiarte does with former members or with whom he does not like.
 

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Will Moses post any news this month? (When I speak novelty and the old quadrilles in Spanish).
Extra Charity full.

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ENGLISH

Will Moses post any news this month? (When I speak novelty and the old quadrilles in Spanish).
 

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who can vote in the poll. (If you notice you have jobs that are over 3 years old, the people paid and they didn't finish. That's why the staff stops funding the works, it has nothing to do with the group here.) Putting me in moderation can let me clear this topic of useless confirmations.

 
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