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It was fairly predictable that Ilias was going to go genocide route if Luka ever ended up renagging on the whole "wholesale slaughter of monsters" front. She likely pushed him to killing the monster lord with the full knowledge that doing so would easily spark a conflict between the two races, and allow her to swoop in with her pseudo-monsters and properly commit a genocide in the name of "world peace." That she actively berates you for losing fights rather than presenting a more forgiving front even implies that she's less focused on your safety and survival and more on the fact that you failed her.You predicted whole plot, including revelation at the end of a game? Because I dont.
I mean, in third chapter when she said "Kill her!!! -No!? -Fine, Il do it myself" it wasnt even a revelation for me. She hate monsters and whole game before that she appears with "kill monster boss" several times, so...
I predicted it to the point of "lets kill all monsters...", but not to the point "...and also humans".
Read: it's a well-known meme from 4chan that the prevailing problem with Luka's dream of co-existence is that due to the inherent superiority monsters possess over Human's, the latter species will simply go extinct due to dwindling birthrates. Promestein has an entire TEDtalk in Paradox where she brings this up as a major concern to fairly apathetic-looking audience. That's it.Paradox still unfinished and it was released after original MGQ. And I never played it. So....what you trying to say here?
This is a bit too incoherent. I would encourage you to type it out slowly and try again.I played it
1) long ago
2) without tutorial/manual
And I dropped it because overall game experience wasnt that satisfying for me nor "hmmmm, what happened next? I should know that!!!!"
You do figure out why and who, though. It's part of the main plot and individual character interactions in their personal recollection rooms. Hell, you can only get Mu if you do her side quest. And no, it doesn't mean grinding actions repeatedly. There are methods to circumvent any kind of grind. If you're talking about the random battles, it's actually a mechanic that you run from Mother Rabbit rather than directly engaging her. It's a mechanic to resist Haru and Liz. It's also a mechanic to choose to spare a demon rather than keep blasting. It's also impossible not to know when the game makes no effort to disguise what your two options are, and the fallout from either.Yes, but again, you should figure out why what and with whom in shrift FOR EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER personally. Which means grinding and repeating same actions over and over to increase you stand with species, to trigger that specific cutscene variant, about of which you could have know only after you trigger that cutscene 'normally', without knowing about it. OR you just 'cheat' and use walkthrough.
Same case with Shrift. It's presented at the beginning that the demons were the aggressors from the start, but as you go through and choose to spare them (or, in genocide, are basically told "bro, not to rain on your parade, but maybe cool it on the xenophobia?"), you start to unfold the nuances of the conflict itself. Human's are notoriously shit, and Shrift makes a point of it repeatedly.While in undertale glimpse of what going on reveals in the end, when you already have some "are we the baddies?" doubts. Plus, its impossible to miss it, just reach the end of a game. And its didnt matter what path you have chosen, path of pacifist or path of war crimes, truth will be revealed in any case.
You quit the game when your positive morality resulted in a subordinate questioning her superior's commands, thus demonstrating that the demons aren't just mindless cum-sucking abominations? I'm not sure I can take you seriously anymore.Like, yeah, I get that not everything is so clear in shrift on both sides of war. I remembered that moment when one demon killed another for refusing attacking you which you were talking about. Alraune if Im correct. But it raises more questions, especially if you previously became friends with that alraune. Dont remember exactly what questions, that was long ago, but I remember that I facepalmed til blood at this moment. And somewhere here I dropped it. Because eh..wh...ho...pf...sh....eh...pffffffff....hmmmmm.....shrift folder -> shift delete -> launch quake 3 arena -> "to win this game you must get more kills or frags than enemies".
Before deletion I launched game with complete pacifist save, just to make sure that its not me an idiot who didnt realized all geniality of it. But it make even less sense for me after I checked last boss.
What I defenitely figured out is that its typical japanees game with all "main" content hidden outside of main plot line. And Im also figured out that I not a lover of such kind of games.
Because she's a demonic abomination? Shrift is pretty keen on reminding you that, despite the similarities these creatures may have with respect to everyday things from our world, they're still otherworldly creatures. Shame on Devil's Office for making an effort to make monsters look, y'know, like friggin monsters rather than over-compensating cosplayers.That was exaggeration. Game activelly tries to squeeze tears from you but present you not to the blind poor orphans but green dog with....how much??..six IIRC...human female breasts. Eh? I dont get it.
I think the one guy still defending her would actively condemn Kotone if she were a male. Personally, I'd still call Kotone an abusive piece of shit, regardless of pronouns. Just because the genitals and preferred pronouns are different doesn't mean that the person gets a pass either way. A piece of shit is a piece of shit, gold spray-paint or not.Hmmmm.... You know, I don't mean to be "that guy". I honestly, truly don't. However, there's something that's been bugging me for awhile. A sort of curiosity, if you will.
If Kotone was a man rather than a woman, still a kitsune and with the same backstory and tendency towards hypnotizing people, would the people who are sympathetic towards her still sympathize?
She gets a few lines in the Labyrinth, much to the disbelief of everyone in the room. The Hellhounds are way too confused by the entire scene to offer a convincing rebuttal beyond "o-okay then..."Meh, it's useless to try.
Peoples have have pasts. In MGD monster girls are people. Simple as that. 'Suck it up' is the only anwer, including in RL
I'm really bummed Thresh completely forgot Perpetua, the best girl as everyone knows yet shily pretend they don't. I hope she'll play a grand part in the "True sigil" challenge, where we'll see what becomes of this Dungeon system.