RPGM Completed Monster Girl Quest: Paradox [Part 3 v3.01] [Torotoro Resistance]

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wae1029

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If 3rd route does indeed require the 2 main routes to be completed (and therefore NG+), it would make sense that it would be part of the post-release updates.

Although, it's possible that the 3rd path was just meant to be a secret? (kinda copium, I know...)
I know that it's going to have to all be on a single save file, but because of this I would rather play through the angel route on a separate save and then play it on the main save to get the third route. This way I can more enjoy the adventure with an appropriately leveled team. Because God knows that playing a second time, you're just going to steamroll through everything.

Also, I want to see if there's any differences in the plot if you decide to switch routes during the great choice, it feels like an obvious thing to do even if it would only be minor changes. Kinda like the kill Alice ending.
 

Kyle S

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I know that it's going to have to all be on a single save file, but because of this I would rather play through the angel route on a separate save and then play it on the main save to get the third route. This way I can more enjoy the adventure with an appropriately leveled team. Because God knows that playing a second time, you're just going to steamroll through everything.

Also, I want to see if there's any differences in the plot if you decide to switch routes during the great choice, it feels like an obvious thing to do even if it would only be minor changes. Kinda like the kill Alice ending.
Not necessarily, rpgmaker can support a global save so if ToroToro wants he can make it a global variable instead of a save one. Still, I do think since he canonized that new game plus is a thing in the universe it wouldn't surprise me if you can only get into the third route through a NG+ even if you don't necessarily have to finish both routes on this specific save.
 
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I know that it's going to have to all be on a single save file, but because of this I would rather play through the angel route on a separate save and then play it on the main save to get the third route. This way I can more enjoy the adventure with an appropriately leveled team. Because God knows that playing a second time, you're just going to steamroll through everything.

Also, I want to see if there's any differences in the plot if you decide to switch routes during the great choice, it feels like an obvious thing to do even if it would only be minor changes. Kinda like the kill Alice ending.
I also hope there are differences if you switch routes or not. Sonya is dead on the Ilias route, regardless of what you pick in the Great Decision.
 

Noah Neim

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I also hope there are differences if you switch routes or not. Sonya is dead on the Ilias route, regardless of what you pick in the Great Decision.
Sonya is dead? :KEK:


Did you somehow miss the part where she transforms herself into basically a godly being and fights to keep that fucking apotosis i already forgot the name of (its that irrelevant)
 
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Question, do the first two parts tell a well rounded story (i.e. no cliffhanger/painfully untied plot-threads)? Or is the release of the third part necessary for a satisfying conclusion? Thankee.
 

domigera

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Question, do the first two parts tell a well rounded story (i.e. no cliffhanger/painfully untied plot-threads)? Or is the release of the third part necessary for a satisfying conclusion? Thankee.
the end of part 1 & 2 are fittingly climatict, but otherwise the journey is very obviously not over & there's lot of mysteries left.
 

Noah Neim

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Question, do the first two parts tell a well rounded story (i.e. no cliffhanger/painfully untied plot-threads)? Or is the release of the third part necessary for a satisfying conclusion? Thankee.
MGQP is a pretty low level story, it's not terribly complex, it doesnt create mysteries, it doesnt require any theories, when you finish p2 you never have a 'that's it?' moment ssimply because it's that dull, it plays it safe every way and it doessnt explore any theme or plot point that it sets up

So no worries about that
 

wae1029

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Why is roach queen in king instead of king of knights when she joins? Its such a weird choice and i thought that elf princess was our first king of knights because of it. Secondly I find it strange she doesn't have martial artist trained yet does have battle master trained. Its not much and I can train it myself, but I find it weird. like Apoptosis characters skipping doll makes sense they are different things. but how does one learn to do something without half the knowledge.
 
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Sonya is dead? :KEK:


Did you somehow miss the part where she transforms herself into basically a godly being and fights to keep that fucking apotosis i already forgot the name of (its that irrelevant)
And that version of Sonya dies, before which she makes a copy of a Sonya from another world to take her place.
 

Noah Neim

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And that version of Sonya dies, before which she makes a copy of a Sonya from another world to take her place.
No she doesnt, there's no proof of her actual death, she creates a copy so that a sonya continues on in the adventure, she's likely still fighting the apotosis

To further prove my point, altough i highly doubt the relevance or even the neccesaity and character writing of sonya, she's still someone who's literally there from the beginning of the story, a character like that wouldn't just die offscreen

This series has dubious writing quality, but i doubt even torotoro would make such a cheap death
 

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No she doesnt, there's no proof of her actual death, she creates a copy so that a sonya continues on in the adventure, she's likely still fighting the apotosis

To further prove my point, altough i highly doubt the relevance or even the neccesaity and character writing of sonya, she's still someone who's literally there from the beginning of the story, a character like that wouldn't just die offscreen

This series has dubious writing quality, but i doubt even torotoro would make such a cheap death
Not to mention that it still remains to be seen to what extent the decisions made during the adventure affect regardless of the route. Because I keep saying that no matter what, there has to be something more behind the options in certain dialogues where Luka can say something meaningless like dominating the world.

Also, reviewing recent comments, I don't understand why people are saying that the content of a third route may be released after the release of Act 3. Both in the trailer released too early in retrospect now that the final part will finally be released and throughout the main story and base outside of the collaboration. It´s made clear that a third route existed through the characters of Brinhild, Nero and Neris. The only characters that "at first" are always out of place in the events and that curiously, the rabbit doesn´t have the ability to "fix" despite that being his job. In addition to finally seeing the motivations behind those 2 above all.
Nero always helps in the adventure, but he always stays half-hearted in his help and it seems like he doesn't want to get "in a fraternity" with Luka's group, like... someone who doesn't want to get close because he knows that in the end there will only be blood.
While Neris, on the other hand, has practically taken care of "in principle" the biggest challenges of the original adventure to make Luka's group go faster in their journey... only for her to end up causing more problems, except in the battle with the 6-tails, the only battle where in fact... the only thing she did was just speed things up.

Since remember that her intervention in both the battle with Angel Killer and during the end of the conflict on the continent, was because Nero asked her to help in the battle that she help but she had no intention of intervening. Which would make one think that both brothers, despite having the same objective, their methods are like the sun and the moon, Nero supporting but always putting a line of mystery and separation, while Neris supports from the shadows and apparently she wants to "spend some time with Luka". But with the end of act 2 and knowing that it´s from the original Luka himself that they receive orders... then what is the prime Luka planning...

Also... since Nero always respected Luka Prime and even "sounded" friendlier, the theory that Nero and Neris were orphaned and raised by the knights I think has lost strength and at most they were only trained by them. Neris by Alma Elma and Granberia and Nero by Tamamo and Erubetie.

Which... again, if then Neris' attraction to Luka is true because he is the only man with the exception of his brother, the strongest and most profitable man in humanity even for his time... then Neris literally applied the... "I'm not going to take mom's food away, so I'm going for my own"...

In fact, I liked more the original idea that this attraction was because she "fell in love" with the legend that was her father when she was an orphan and that was her reason, but if the prime is alive and kicking... then it's more... crazy, but not weird in the standards of the MGQP world.
 

wae1029

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Because I keep saying that no matter what, there has to be something more behind the options in certain dialogues where Luka can say something meaningless like dominating the world.
There is. It ticks up the silly answer counter for the achievement. And the fact that such an achievement exists tells you all you need to about story significance unless they decide to pull an evaluation twist which you know took an entire other game to be significant plot wise.
 

Noah Neim

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Not to mention that it still remains to be seen to what extent the decisions made during the adventure affect regardless of the route. Because I keep saying that no matter what, there has to be something more behind the options in certain dialogues where Luka can say something meaningless like dominating the world.
Man i wish the same, paradox just feels so pointless in its choices, and all of them dont even sound like luka, like i could go on an entire rant on why i hate him and his character, but i'd wish if torotoro atleast kept some sort of artistic integrity and maintained the character, and even improved their writing by making him grow, which also doesnt happen in paradox just like it hardly happened in mgq, but i digress


I don't understand why people are saying that the content of a third route may be released after the release of Act 3.
It's because we dont understand the 3rd route, well, i never thought it'd be something that happens after part 3, but rather something hidden within in, i mean it's obvious
But the actual posst from TT doesnt include even a slight peep, hell, i assume the chaos route will be the longet one, because it's entirely unique to paradox and by far the most interesting plotline that actually interests me (yes, im not interested in being a nazi or a mass murderer, not because im a good person, but because it's lacking in substance) so if the angel or mg route is at max 50 hours, how long could the chaos route be? What could it include? people are simply to curious and just assume things, whichs isnt a sin itself.


Brinhild, Nero and Neris.
Nero and neris are definitely enigmas as characters, they might be relevant in the chaos route, but if someone, likely tamamo perhaps? who sent luka's and alice's children to another timeline, to which they would obviously have to consent to, which would be a different world full of strange monsters they hardly understand, than they have to have some sort of goal, or even some understanding of what's going on, it's something im quite curious about actually, would we meet the mgq luka eventually?

the rabbit doesn´t have the ability to "fix" despite that being his job.
No, though i might be wrong since the details on the story are lost on me, but the white rabbit cant actually interfere in the tradiional laws of causality, or perhaps those that are beyond her authorothy, and we dont actually know what that is, like how death is well... death, or ideas lukas might be about the idea of a hero or heorism or something else, i might've forgotten what it was, but if we didint, the white rabbit is at best a guide, just like she says from the beginning
hell, that's not even including the goal of the apostles, or how the white rabbit is actually dead iirc, or whatever the hell apiro lagos is, or how shrift is canon and daiji has the power of intervention and just.. fuck,

OH AND that's not even mentionting the chaos labyrinth thing, where it makes you save a file, or a luka's exclusive weapon, or shrift ex4 hashire dialogue, or just the sheer power of apiro lagos(?) luka

Oh and alternate promestein too in the three charms collab, she has to have a role in there too


Also... since Nero always respected Luka Prime and even "sounded" friendlier, the theory that Nero and Neris were orphaned and raised by the knights I think has lost strength and at most they were only trained by them. Neris by Alma Elma and Granberia and Nero by Tamamo and Erubetie.
Im fairly sure both of them talked about tamamao fairly favorably, it doesnt make sense to raise your 2 children by 2 different people, especially by alma elma, now i like her character, but dont go leaving her with any children, granberia too, good natured sure, but raising a child is more complex
Thus tamamo is the obvious choice, hell, she basically did that with EVERY SINGLE generation of demon lords, she's, if she wasnt a loli she'd catch the rabbid panting and drooling of the milf crowd 100%

Which... again, if then Neris' attraction to Luka is true because he is the only man with the exception of his brother, the strongest and most profitable man in humanity even for his time... then Neris literally applied the... "I'm not going to take mom's food away, so I'm going for my own"...
Look man, this game is weird, incest is HARDLY the weirdest fetish there, and technically already exists in the form of little lucafina and micaela, though i talked about this previously how they technically might not be related? though its only speculation, luka still knowingly has sex with a younger image of his mother and aunt, genetics be damned, that's fucking incest
 
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