i just realized something, most people want a party of heavenly knights, but why not upgrade that? im aiming for a monster lord party, and we only need one more recruitable monster lord to have a full frontline set up.
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Meanwhile, I'm the opposite. I dislike many of MGQ's fetishes but have no issue with incest.
Hello, apologies for dumb question but is there a way to access LoC currently? I try to enter but told something similar to I cannot do that in trial version.
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Chaos has to be a dyanmic energy system, it's in its name, and as a result of the butterfly effect even the smallest change could have big outcomes in the future, take a few billion years and i'd imagine that 2 different timelines, altough having a 'cannonicity', would have vastly different genology'. This might not be how it's like in paradox, as i said, thhe cannonicty thing is a bit of a doozy, does it mean the same sperm wins in every time line? In a way making every alternate timeline, decisions aside being genetically identical? However i kinda doubt that since the canon is literally broken, it's how paradox literally starts, so i personally wouldn't trust it.
An you know, for an energy called 'chaos' it sure is behaving in an orderly fashion
Anyways, assuming the 2nd point is true, marcelus still wouldn't have the same genes just from the fact that over billions of years his family, which likely has slightly less cannonical importance would have room for change, and if he was perfectly recreated that'd still be the same thing, which means neris wouldn't be related to luka.
Now im not sure in the case of Ilias and Micaela, i want to say that its mgq ilias that remakes them not paradox ilias, which luka would actually be related to. Going by your point all ilias' are the same ilias, but there's obviously a distinction, as ilias lost in the mgq world, but won in the angel world, and lost in the monster world. The way ilias won in mgq by blackmail. i see no reason why another ilias might not be able to come up with this idea butterfly effect or not. So i propose that the possibity of a different Ilias or Alice I being born in each timeline, sometimess one is stronger than the other (i think mgq implies alice I was, but i might be misremembering). Altough chaos and by extension light are the same, they are completely stagnant systems, they literally represent the fundamental forces of the multiverse, their reach has to be bigger, they have to be dynamic forces. So even if 2 people use the same clay to make the same sculpture, the minute differences will make them entirely unique.
Also, if the 2nd premise is true, arent Luka and Alice really really really distant cousins?
Chaos has to be a dyanmic energy system, it's in its name, and as a result of the butterfly effect even the smallest change could have big outcomes in the future, take a few billion years and i'd imagine that 2 different timelines, altough having a 'cannonicity', would have vastly different genology'. This might not be how it's like in paradox, as i said, thhe cannonicty thing is a bit of a doozy, does it mean the same sperm wins in every time line? In a way making every alternate timeline, decisions aside being genetically identical? However i kinda doubt that since the canon is literally broken, it's how paradox literally starts, so i personally wouldn't trust it.
An you know, for an energy called 'chaos' it sure is behaving in an orderly fashion
Anyways, assuming the 2nd point is true, marcelus still wouldn't have the same genes just from the fact that over billions of years his family, which likely has slightly less cannonical importance would have room for change, and if he was perfectly recreated that'd still be the same thing, which means neris wouldn't be related to luka.
Now im not sure in the case of Ilias and Micaela, i want to say that its mgq ilias that remakes them not paradox ilias, which luka would actually be related to. Going by your point all ilias' are the same ilias, but there's obviously a distinction, as ilias lost in the mgq world, but won in the angel world, and lost in the monster world. The way ilias won in mgq by blackmail. i see no reason why another ilias might not be able to come up with this idea butterfly effect or not. So i propose that the possibity of a different Ilias or Alice I being born in each timeline, sometimess one is stronger than the other (i think mgq implies alice I was, but i might be misremembering). Altough chaos and by extension light are the same, they are completely stagnant systems, they literally represent the fundamental forces of the multiverse, their reach has to be bigger, they have to be dynamic forces. So even if 2 people use the same clay to make the same sculpture, the minute differences will make them entirely unique.
Also, if the 2nd premise is true, arent Luka and Alice really really really distant cousins?
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man now that im looking at it this is pretty stupid, committing so much time to just argue why incest is actually incest. i could have instead studied how to do quadratic formula but instead my brain is full of knowledge about a porn game. ggs guys my life is cooked
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Still feels to orderly, but we're going in circles since we're doing healthy speculation at best, either way luka is still being drained by his alternate universe daughter, genetics or not that's still somewhat incestous
As for the father of chaos thing, i think that entity is some entirely seperate, luka's never been called the father of chaos, and i think we vaguely saw him one time somewhere, the shrift collab maybe? He came in the form of that weird eye i think. Luka is alot closer to the white rabbit and apiro lagos since we saw him transform into that in the shrift collab once he uses his chaos ability.
Luka is just an anomaly for all lukas across the multiverse as he's born from a direct creation of chaos, his abilites exist entirely because of it
Ok in trying to find the eye i find the clip of daji going into the White rabbits mind, and apiro lagos specifically refers to the father of chaos being 'over there'
Another mention of them is when Idea lukas being a 'daddy's girl' or something, i never interpreted this as it being luka as you dont have to be luka to look like luka in a world of super powered beings, but honestly i cant make any other claims
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Yeah i was right, luka transforms here, and if we look at it a bit that's actually luka's eye and 'he' calls something father, maybe the power itself is reffering to luka father? Or the power is calling out to the father somewhere, either way, still inconclusive
Hi, sorry, when I try to use it, it says "Script (Japanese characters) /GameObject line 521: Name Error occured. uninitiated constant Object ::Game_Battler"
Does anybody know how to resolve it?
sounds like you messed up the patch process, I'll give you a full guide on how to install it
1.Download
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you can also find the same link on official wiki page
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2.I'm not sure if this is necessary but you also may need to download the latest translation files
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3.Extract the One-Click_Patcher executable into your game files and execute, it may fail the first time around but thats ok, we just want it to create the folder that comes with One-Click_Patcher execution.
3.5(Optional) If you download the translation files you need to use the 'Start Patcher' windows batch file inside the One-Click_Patcher folder to apply the translations. Since you got an error that probably includes mistranslated objects I highly recommend doing this as it may fix the game if you are unable to open it or access the LoC.
4.Download the LOC part 3 demo mod and extract it indie the One-Click_Patcher file that the One-Click_Patcher executable creates.
5. You should see a windows patch file named Demo LoC. Run it. Wait for it finish. Enjoy
Let me know if that doesn't work!
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Sorry, but where could I find the translation files you mentioned in 3.5?
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As far as i know there isnt one, you can watch a lets play at 2x speed or something or lowkey just replay it
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I would hardly call mgq complicated, leaving some unanswered questions is hardly brilliant writing. In this situation i like to use the term "Theory Viable" It's when a game's lore is actually viable for making theories, mgq does not fall under this category. There's only one reason, they dont actually let us speculate, we can question all we want, however we have no evidance to support any possible claims other than just plain guessing, when you make a theory in any other game you'd find evidence to support it, and sometimes it'll even look believeable, so far anything i or you or anyone in this thread said is just healthy speculation, with no actual way of confriming anything. The closest thing to a thoery viable plot point in this game is the chaos route, and i mean the existence and meaning of the route itself, altough it isnt alot, we can somewhat make a prediction of what the route will entail.
Anyways now that im done shitting on the game, this makes the situation more confusing.
I never noticed that name change, not like i hhadn't used the ability but my fingers are on the A key in every battle as i'd never expect to see anything. With this being a given fact, who is 'father' that 'someone' calls out during ex4? Luka doesnt remember anything, so either A: He was conscious and in control but got his memory wiped or B: He wasn't conscious and he was taken over by something else, thus he had nothing to remember. In case A it'd kinda be like with sonya chaos, where she suddenly remembers she's something much greater than just a human. However if that was the case, if he recalled his existence as the father or its avatar, he wouldn't call himself father, so i'm honestly doubtful of the fact he is the father despite it being directly told to us through this name change. In the case of B, i'd honestly just be guessing, while it wouldn't be the first time we see an impostor and it might even explain why luka isn't acting like luka at all, but this example would only explain the father line but nothing else, and it would lead to its own bunch of weird questions i have no way of supporting.
I always took the father of chaos title (even when i didnt think it was luka, hell i still dont think it is) as quite literally. Luka's existence as the hero caused her to use time manipulation to fuck over everything, now strange thing is, there had been plenty of heros who ilias had been in contact with, this is confirmed by the mention of evaluation meetings. However, by what paradox tells us, luka should be the only one, as paradox would've been caused long ago... not to mention that since the multiverse exists, so should several lukas, altough his victory is described a miracle in the first place, so maybe other lukas quite literally died to early and werent helped by illias or something....
However, to survive an evaluation meeting you'd have to be revived, so the only conclusion i can come to is luka just sucks that bad? Or maybe it's commentary for how thhe players are all perverts
Anyways, i got lost, both Major factions in this war want luka and his shota cock on their side, so do the aposltes by apiro lagos' suggestion of looking for a third way. Prob because of how much of an insane powerhouse is, i'd be speculating alot but we can assume that Luka beating black alice and sonya chaos is cannon, which would put him among the top tiers. Luka is the cause of all 'chaos' in the game, he's the singularity, he's destined to meet the monster lord and is related to 3 of the highest angels, the greatest hero in history, and the goddess illias herself, he's the biggest nepo baby in all of existence
This is the only "Father of Chaos" i'd be willing to accept until we get more about him, since FoC is clearly an entity, a conscious and living one in the present, one that currently controls the apostles, looks like Luka/marcellus/Heinrich combined, and is apperently paradox luka... for some reason, that's kinda all we know.
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Me but with Gushers! They are the Ilias of candy
As for her... Her teeth look scary but she's no more scary than a human woman who could just as easily conceal a butcher knife so - Still would.
Also, kudos to the Lukas above who used spoiler tags above. You all are deserving of Ilias's kisses. To those not using spoiler tags, you are deserving of a stay in the Sealed Sinner's Prison.
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You can keep the kisses to yourself, if alma elma's the one offering call me